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    (Original post by Insight314)
    Yeah, I know that. I really want to specialise in theoretical physics by the time I graduate, and the course details for D&R make it seem as a 'must' for those people who want to do exactly that, since it is one of the first theoretical physics courses that a mathmo would take. However, this one is replaced by the Maths with Physics option due to there already being a Special Relativity course within the fourth paper (the Physics NatSci Tripos one). So would you say it would be beneficial for me to attend those lectures or not?




    I actually learnt some N&S during Summer 2015 for my personal statement so I can include the book "Numbers and Proofs" by Allenby. This textbook is included in the recommended list for N&S on https://www.maths.cam.ac.uk/system/files/schedules.pdf with a 'dagger' next to it which suggests that it is especially written for that course. Here is the Contents page of it: Attachment 556653 Attachment 556653556655. I have already covered up to Chapter 4 but not more than that. Would you say I should complete it? Although I do find N&S intriguing, I mainly decided to self-study it for set theory and mathematical logic; I am not that much into proofs and the more pure maths to be quite honest. I was definitely planning on taking V&M before Group theory, even before raff97 suggested me to take Group theory during the summer; I think group theory is taught together with V&M in Michaelmas term, so good to self-study them together.



    Don't you think textbooks are at least a bit useful though? I've already got an Analysis I textbook. So you are suggesting 1)lecture notes 2)example sheets as a study methodology. Wouldn't it be more favourable to accomodate the lecture notes with a textbook or is that just going to be a waste of time? I feel like cross-referencing would be very beneficial in terms of learning the content in depth.

    I thought Cambrige also shares online lecture notes, or are those lecture notes you are talking about different to them? I have to go to sleep now so I will private message you tomorrow with the courses that I may take during the summer.

    Thanks a lot. You've been of great help!
    Here are the lecture notes I pretty much depended on this year. Complete set of notes for Part IA is there. As for Cambridge sharing online lecture notes themselves, they only do so for some courses (as far as I can remember for this year: DE, Groups, Probability) and arguably they have a lot of irrelevant content in there, so Dexter's notes (linked) are a very good starting point.
    Julia Goedecke's notes for Groups this year, on the other hand, are actually very good and if I can manage to download them I can try to send them to you (and any others who request the same)
    https://dec41.user.srcf.net/
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    Here are the lecture notes I pretty much depended on this year. Complete set of notes for Part IA is there. As for Cambridge sharing online lecture notes themselves, they only do so for some courses (as far as I can remember for this year: DE, Groups, Probability) and arguably they have a lot of irrelevant content in there, so Dexter's notes (linked) are a very good starting point.
    Julia Goedeckes notes for Groups this year, on the other hand, are actually very good and if I can manage to download them I can try to send them to you (and any others who request the same)
    https://dec41.user.srcf.net/
    Those notes look great! Might use some of them next year.
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    I tried to create a more advanced formulae book, the current A level one is pretty bad, some important formulae not included, and a lot of GCSE stuff such as cosine rule...(leave them to art students please). So if you want to contribute to this booklet, feel free to edit it, and don't forget to put your name in the author section which will be printed on the front page after complection.

    https://www.overleaf.com/5560407bbmbvq
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    (Original post by Alex_Aits)
    Here are the lecture notes I pretty much depended on this year. Complete set of notes for Part IA is there. As for Cambridge sharing online lecture notes themselves, they only do so for some courses (as far as I can remember for this year: DE, Groups, Probability) and arguably they have a lot of irrelevant content in there, so Dexter's notes (linked) are a very good starting point.
    Julia Goedecke's notes for Groups this year, on the other hand, are actually very good and if I can manage to download them I can try to send them to you (and any others who request the same)
    https://dec41.user.srcf.net/
    Oh my god, thank you so much. Do share Julia's notes if you can get your hands across them.


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    Why is that so sexy...
    I know right. :perv:

    I can't go to sleep right now, and she really doesn't help it.


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    Oh my god, thank you so much. Do share Julia's notes if you can get your hands across them.


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    They are online i remember them.


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    (Original post by shamika)
    Agree with this (except if you are going to insist on starting early, do N&S. An easy introduction is given by Liebeck's book intro to pure maths). But you can get a high first without self studying in advance. Dabble if you really want, but definitely don't do it out of a mistaken belief you'll get left behind.
    I can see how n+s is a great intro to uni maths, but the content isnt too hard. Starting it early wont be as useful as groups imo

    (Original post by Insight314)
    I see. I am definitely using the lecture notes as well as textbooks though. I currently haven't looked at the lecture notes but I feel like my methodology would be something along the lines 1)read lecture notes 2)reference to textbook, read it and see if you make 100% sense of it 3)do example sheets on it. What do you think of this? Are you 100% sure textbooks are not needed?



    I was doing three times that during exam term, and that is because I had more exams than usual Maths offer-holders, so it seems like I will have way too much time in my hands during summer. I guess it is all relative. This doesn't even take into account how eager I am to start part IA.



    This is why Zacken is setting up ASoM (A Summer of Maths) thread where we will be collaborating and self-studying the Tripos together. It would be great if you and other current Mathmos (as long as you have the time of course) help us from time to time, kind of like in an online supervision, I suppose.



    Now, this is something that I can't debate with you about. Are the example sheets online the same that are given every year? Can I not just re-do them when the time comes? I think this 'summer self-study' is more about getting the practice + being familiar with the course in advance, and not about reducing workload during part IA. I never intended it to be this way. I am very eager to start IA, and I want to improve in maths in advance before I come into Cambridge. I am not planning to reduce any potential workload in Cambridge or whatever, I want the contrary of that.



    Yes, I am a Churchill applicant! Are you also a Churchillian?

    Thanks a lot.
    Talking to other students on TSR will only go so far, itll never be as good as a 2 on 1 supervision. When we were doing example sheets in college we would discuss answers amongst ourselves but it wasn't until the supervisions where I really came to understand the content. Im no where near the level required to supervise, they're usually PhD students or professors who came in the top 10 of their years.

    The example sheets do change slightly from year to year as lecturers change. I guess you could do the old ones, but as you say the best thing to do would just get familiar with some of the content, and not doing the work intended to be done during term.

    Yep also at Churchill
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    They are online i remember them.


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    don't link them then, it's ok I've got telepathy


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    (Original post by Insight314)
    don't link them then, it's ok I've got telepathy


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    I was looking for them for you actually you ****ing ********. I have found them, If you actually use google you will find you can find them very easily.
    Here are some other ones http://www.mediafire.com/?76fjl2ik509oe5d
    Hint: typing IA groups Lecture notes might get something.


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    (Original post by raff97)
    I can see how n+s is a great intro to uni maths, but the content isnt too hard. Starting it early wont be as useful as groups imo



    Talking to other students on TSR will only go so far, itll never be as good as a 2 on 1 supervision. When we were doing example sheets in college we would discuss answers amongst ourselves but it wasn't until the supervisions where I really came to understand the content. Im no where near the level required to supervise, they're usually PhD students or professors who came in the top 10 of their years.

    The example sheets do change slightly from year to year as lecturers change. I guess you could do the old ones, but as you say the best thing to do would just get familiar with some of the content, and not doing the work intended to be done during term.

    Yep also at Churchill
    Would it be that much of a problem if I do the example sheets during summer and re-do them when I have to in October? I don't only want to familiarise myself with the content, I want to understand it in depth. Also, the example sheets look really fun.

    You are going into second year now right?


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    (Original post by physicsmaths)
    I was looking for them for you actually you ****ing ********. I have found them, If you actually use google you will find you can find them very easily.
    Here are some other ones http://www.mediafire.com/?76fjl2ik509oe5d
    Hint: typing IA groups Lecture notes might get something.


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    Thanks m8. I never doubted you.


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    (Original post by Insight314)
    Would it be that much of a problem if I do the example sheets during summer and re-do them when I have to in October? I don't only want to familiarise myself with the content, I want to understand it in depth. Also, the example sheets look really fun.

    You are going into second year now right?


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    You know what, just go for it. It seems you're too eager to be dissuaded! I guess doing it early can only help. But just make sure you dont do so much as you get bored next year.
    If you like number and set theory there are some insanely challenging questions on the N+S example sheets. They are quite fun to try but almost no one gets around to them because they take so long. You could waste a lot of your summer doing them all. (If you cant, dont worry, tripos questions are much easier than the last few qs on a n+s sheet)

    Yep I am.
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    (Original post by raff97)
    You know what, just go for it. It seems you're too eager to be dissuaded! I guess doing it early can only help. But just make sure you dont do so much as you get bored next year.
    If you like number theory there are some insanely challenging questions on the N+S example sheets. They are quite fun to try but almost no one gets around to them because they take so long. You could waste a lot of your summer doing them all. (If you cant, dont worry, tripos questions are much easier than the last few qs on a n+s sheet)

    Yep I am.
    Good!

    I am actually very bad in number theory, so I am not sure how much I will be able to get through them haha. I might try them but N&S isn't gonna help me as much with theoretical physics, so I feel like I should delve more into D&R. Do you know anyone who has lecture notes for the 4th paper courses on the maths with physics choice, the one from first year Physics NatSci Tripos? Where can I find example sheets on them? Oh, and how are practicals like, and how much does my overall 'grade' (not sure if this is what it is called, I am too sleepy) depend on them? They don't give alphas as such? Btw, thanks a lot for all the help.

    So your DoS was Dr Chris Tout? He was my interviewer, he didn't speak that much since the other PhD student interviewer was asking the questions, but he had a ready smile and I really liked him haha. I think he is normally the DoS for IA right?


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    Mathemagicien,

    Have you seen this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYqzcqDtL3k ?

    I am watching it right now.
    No, it looks like it might be interesting to watch over the summer

    How good (or otherwise) is it?

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    ??? I manage 5 hours of work on an extremely good day in mid-exam season, I think your definition of "relax" is very different from that of a normal person.
    There is nothing more relaxing than doing some enjoyable maths
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    I still can't believe how much of a joke question Q11 was.
    Question 12 was even more of a joke

    I can't believe so few people actually bother to look at the Stats and Mechanics sections
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    (Original post by Zacken)
    ??? I manage 5 hours of work on an extremely good day in mid-exam season, I think your definition of "relax" is very different from that of a normal person.
    Same, but after screwing up my STEP exams I'm gonna be putting that much work in + more from now, clearly need to improve at maths.
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    (Original post by Insight314)
    So your DoS was Dr Chris Tout? He was my interviewer, he didn't speak that much since the other PhD student interviewer was asking the questions, but he had a ready smile and I really liked him haha. I think he is normally the DoS for IA right?


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    Who was the PhD student interviewer for you? Wondering if the same as me.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Question 12 was even more of a joke

    I can't believe so few people actually bother to look at the Stats and Mechanics sections
    I'm pleased that (at least) two people looked at Q12. I'm guessing very few attempted it given that it introduces a university level concept, but if you get over the fact it's unfamiliar it is easy. I bet it was done by a handful correctly; most will have ignored it, or panicked and moved on.
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    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    No, it looks like it might be interesting to watch over the summer

    How good (or otherwise) is it?
    It is very sided with Brexit, but it gives facts and statistics for almost every point. It is made very professionally, good quality and I really liked it. Definitely watch it.

    (Original post by Mathemagicien)
    Question 12 was even more of a joke

    I can't believe so few people actually bother to look at the Stats and Mechanics sections
    I don't even glance at stats lol.

    That feel when you haven't done any stats so you couldn't get all the bants from the paper.

    (Original post by IrrationalRoot)
    Who was the PhD student interviewer for you? Wondering if the same as me.
    Alexis Kaminski. Did you have her?
 
 
 
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