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    (Original post by Benammieh)
    Yeah it's very true. No country is perfect in terms of dealing with morals and norms. It's just humanity. At the end of the day they're gonna have to deal with it. I don't think britain should change because a couple of radicals are crying, Britain is a very liberal country now and that is what their going to have to face and be happy with!
    the fact is that britain wouldn't change due protests by extreme minority religous fanatics.... it is just the right wing on the other side who use this to recruit people to their cause (anti-immigration/foreign (even though they say it is not)

    all we hear about "islamification" in britain by certain elements of our media is pure **** stirring.
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    (Original post by bunty64)
    the fact is that britain wouldn't change due protests by extreme minority religous fanatics.... it is just the right wing on the other side who use this to recruit people to their cause (anti-immigration/foreign (even though they say it is not)

    all we hear about "islamification" in britain by certain elements of our media is pure **** stirring.
    Where do you live?

    I don't want your actual address but your town or city will do. Failing that your county.

    So you live in London - which part? Surely you are aware as a resident of London there are parts of London that are not quite the same as they were 50 years ago...
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    (Original post by twl)
    Where do you live?

    I don't want your actual address but your town or city will do. Failing that your county.

    So you live in London - which part? Surely you are aware as a resident of London there are parts of London that are not quite the same as they were 50 years ago...
    chiswick,wst lon....... Yes, but the same applies to most places on earth....... change happens.... its inevitable......those who can't accept change either do something about it, and if they can't, then move on.....

    thats what I said in an eariler post; either vote at the polling station, or vote at immigration with your passsports and claim that expat status...

    I can't stand people who whine about britain and its problems, be they the extremist violent islamists or the white right wing nationalists......
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    (Original post by bunty64)
    chiswick,wst lon.......
    If we're talking Monopoly board... that's at least a Yellow.

    Yes, but the same applies to most places on earth....... change happens.... its inevitable......those who can't accept change either do something about it, and if they can't, then move on.....
    Would you like it if none of your neighbours spoke English and looked at you suspiciously as you walked down the street?

    Okay, you may say this is how many minorities feel in Britain - but doesn't that prove what people are saying, in some parts of Britain, British have become a minority.


    thats what I said in an eariler post; either vote at the polling station, or vote at immigration with your passsports and claim that expat status...

    I can't stand people who whine about britain and its problems, be they the extremist violent islamists or the white right wing nationalists......
    Your MP is Mary Macleod, one of the few Conservative MPs from London.

    It's fair to say, therefore, your direct experience of what we shall call cultural change has not reached your doorstep.
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    This is such a load of nonsense and I am saying that from the point of view of an Asian.
    Its not nonsense at all. Its a pretty accurate description of the nationalist attitude.

    The most annoying thing to me about the BNP is how the claim to want to preserve British culture, when they dont even have a clue what that means.

    British "culture" (and i use that word loosely because it doesnt really mean anything), or "being British", is about the freedom of the individual citizen to believe in whatever they want, aspire and become whatever they want, follow whatever culture they want, so long as they dont infringe the rights of others. These are some of the most basic principles of British society, they have been since Magna Carta was signed and they are enshrined in our common law.

    The BNP does not want to preserve this, they want to completely undermine it. They just want everybody to conform to their, "Nationalist approved British culture".
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    OP talks like it's a bloody "us or them" scenario. It's not; tightening our border a little and implementing more efficient border patrols to keep illegals out presents a win-win situation. That's why nobody agrees with the BNP. The hate on the other hand stems from the fact that the vast majority of their supporters are uneducated bigoted morons who just need somewhere to shaft their own shortcomings.

    Just take a look at UKIP; fairly similar to the BNP in terms of issues tackled, but their supporters aren't giving anyone an active reason to hate them.

    edit: Just wanted to say how narrow-minded being worried about ethnic cleansing to the point of turning a country on its head actually is; seriously, where do people see Britain, or even the world, in fifty years? Will something as trivial as our genome (which merely take care of our bodily functions) still be the basis of mankind's judgement of others? People have been complaining about the rate of change for centuries in this country now, but just look how far our fluidity has taken us. Forget fifty years, try a thousand; just how long do these fear mongers plan on maintaining the status quo of yesteryear?
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    (Original post by StakedSalmon)
    OP talks like it's a bloody "us or them" scenario. It's not; tightening our border a little and implementing more efficient border patrols to keep illegals out presents a win-win situation. That's why nobody agrees with the BNP. The hate on the other hand stems from the fact that the vast majority of their supporters are uneducated bigoted morons who just need somewhere to shaft their own shortcomings.

    Just take a look at UKIP; fairly similar to the BNP in terms of issues tackled, but their supporters aren't giving anyone an active reason to hate them.

    edit: Just wanted to say how narrow-minded being worried about ethnic cleansing to the point of turning a country on its head actually is; seriously, where do people see Britain, or even the world, in fifty years? Will something as trivial as our genome (which merely take care of our bodily functions) still be the basis of mankind's judgement of others? People have been complaining about the rate of change for centuries in this country now, but just look how far our fluidity has taken us. Forget fifty years, try a thousand; just how long do these fear mongers plan on maintaining the status quo of yesteryear?
    why are you putting UKIP in the same sentence as BNP? UKIP are just conservatives united on the issue of Europe.

    all i care about is not wanting to feel like a foreigner in my own country. letting other races and religions live here? brilliant....as long as i can find someone culturally similar enough to me within a two thousand mile radius.
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    (Original post by twl)
    If we're talking Monopoly board... that's at least a Yellow.



    Would you like it if none of your neighbours spoke English and looked at you suspiciously as you walked down the street?

    Okay, you may say this is how many minorities feel in Britain - but doesn't that prove what people are saying, in some parts of Britain, British have become a minority.




    Your MP is Mary Macleod, one of the few Conservative MPs from London.

    It's fair to say, therefore, your direct experience of what we shall call cultural change has not reached your doorstep.
    not familiar with monopoly (I know, it may be shocking).....

    well wouldn't mind the english part (I believe this is just limited to a few northern towns/streets), but wouldn't be too pleased at the dirty looks

    Yes indeed, in some towns in britain, whites have become the minority and in others they are just perceived to be...... I don't believe the right wing hype..... places like bradford have long been ethnic bases and so have some inner city areas........

    Not familiar with local MPs tbh..... 'cultural change' hasn't reached my area but just a mile or so away its a different story (still a white majority)
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    (Original post by wildrover)
    And point out were in there manifesto it states this.
    you just proved the classic point on BNP supporters being ignorant. Good job mate! X'D
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    NICK GRIFFIN FAILED QUOTES

    "... you've only got to look at people like Peter Hitchens writing for the Daily Mail, Littlejohn writing in the Sun, even people like Polly Toynbee writing in the Observer... they are intellectuals and so on" [on commenting on the greatness of the white race.] Nick Griffin BBC Interview, 2004

    “I am well aware that the ORTHODOX opinion is that six million Jews were gassed and cremated or turned into lampshades. Orthodox opinion also once held that the earth is flat…I have reached the conclusion that the ‘extermination’ tale is a mixture of Allied wartime propaganda, extremely profitable lie, and latter day witch-hysteria.” - Nick Griffin
    "So you're saying the government gased, burned, maimed, murdered and planted 6 million bodies for propaganda?"- reporter
    "...Yes."


    "All Muslims are not terrorists but all terrorists are Muslims and as for gays, not all gays are militant and want to shove it down everyone’s throats." -Nick Griffin

    "How do you choose which people can enter your party?"
    "You just have to look at them"
    "You can tell the difference between, say, a Polish person and a British person? Just by look?" - Interview with Nick Griffin with the Daily Mail

    "I want to see Britain become the 99 per cent genetically white country she was just eleven years before I was born, and I want to die knowing that I have helped to set her on a course whereby her future genetic makeup will one day not even resemble that of January 1948, but that of July 1914." - Nick Griffin, in a speech, the week after he stated that he was not rascist in a white supremecist way, just proud of being British.

    XD you fail fatman. And fix your face u make puppies cry
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    (Original post by jamesman13)

    all i care about is not wanting to feel like a foreigner in my own country. letting other races and religions live here? brilliant....as long as i can find someone culturally similar enough to me within a two thousand mile radius.
    Take the hint mate. Sounds like people go out of their way to avoid to.you're not popular r you buddy? Get out more u'll feel better
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    (Original post by twl)
    Part of giving yourself the label "atheist" is a strive for self-perfection. Atheists so want to be perfect themselves and live their own perfect lives that they don't think about kids and all the hassle and imperfections that may result if they were to get it wrong. Raising kids is hard, and you never know, they might become religious, i.e. less than perfect people like them, so the only way to guarantee that does not happen is not to have kids, or to have fewer.




    Over the last half century or so human achievement has been very great. People have come to think the whole world revolves around humans, human control everything that happens... even the climate system.

    Christianity has it that this world is Created by God. We can discover God's Creation. Ultimately though, we don't control it and nor will our understanding of it ever be complete... we are still our Father's children.



    "Broken Britain" is a label... if by that label you mean "broken families" then I agree that had stronger Christian values prevailed there would be more intact families and more children with a more enriching environmental upbringing.
    call the label something else.... the same problems still remain.... the christian values would have prevailed had they not opted for the pick and mix choice for their christian faith....
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    (Original post by 12345hi)
    Take the hint mate. Sounds like people go out of their way to avoid to.you're not popular r you buddy? Get out more u'll feel better
    i sound like ive hit a nerve with you, i havent said anything racist so perhaps youre one of the 32% of british muslims who want islam to dominate the UK and the rest of the world?
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    (Original post by jamesman13)
    i sound like ive hit a nerve with you, i havent said anything racist so perhaps youre one of the 32% of british muslims who want islam to dominate the UK and the rest of the world?
    That or he's just noticed that you're a ********.
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    (Original post by fillythebish)
    That or he's just noticed that you're a ********.
    so im a ******** because i dont want to feel like a foreigner in my country?
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      (Original post by jamesman13)
      i sound like ive hit a nerve with you,i havent said anything racist so perhaps youre one of the 32% of british muslims who want islam to dominate the UK and the rest of the world?
      Being ironic?
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      (Original post by yawn)
      Being ironic?
      nope
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      (Original post by jamesman13)
      so im a ******** because i dont want to feel like a foreigner in my country?
      So it's alright for you to claim to be British - someone who has said they are a 3rd generation immigrant - but anyone else doing so is here to ethnically cleanse us?

      And although I do vaguely understand the feeling behind it from most people, using the term "assimilation" just brings up thoughts of Hitler trying to get rid of anyone who doesn't conform to his ideal... (Before someone has a go, I'm not saying they are Nazis...)
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      (Original post by callum9999)
      So it's alright for you to claim to be British - someone who has said they are a 3rd generation immigrant - but anyone else doing so is here to ethnically cleanse us?
      im not blaming the immigrants.

      the left wing will always blame the british people for not letting the immigrants integrate, the right wing idiots will blame the immigrants for not integrating. the reality is, its just in the numbers. the govt. are simply allowing them in at a too fast rate. labour tried to ethnically cleanse us - completely aware of white flight and problems with assimilation (integration, if you like!)

      if you look at a lot of poltiical interests of the white left wing youll see a strong trend in them feeling guilty, perhaps blaming themselves for slavery, holocaust, apartheid or any other crimes done by white people in the past.
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      (Original post by jamesman13)
      im not blaming the immigrants.

      the left wing will always blame the british people for not letting the immigrants integrate, the right wing idiots will blame the immigrants for not integrating. the reality is, its just in the numbers. the govt. are simply allowing them in at a too fast rate. labour tried to ethnically cleanse us - completely aware of white flight and problems with assimilation (integration, if you like!)

      if you look at a lot of poltiical interests of the white left wing youll see a strong trend in them feeling guilty, perhaps blaming themselves for slavery, holocaust, apartheid or any other crimes done by white people in the past.
      Pretty sure you won't... No-one I know feels guilty for slavery, holocaust, apartheid or any other crimes. What on earth are you basing that on? Something you just made up in your head to try and explain why people could possibly have a different opinion to your's as it's clearly the only one that can be right...

      Plus, supporting the BNP does absolutely nothing whatsoever to resolve any of that. You can't claim to want more integration while supporting a party that stands for the exact opposite.

      And I don't care about "white flight" etc. as I don't judge anyone based on their skin colour. Claim you don't all you want, but being concerned that more people in an area may be black than white speaks volumes. Granted, if it results in pockets where the area is basically completely foreign that would cause issues (and probably has done). But anyone claiming a solution to that is to kick them all out of the country loses any right to say they are trying to find a solution good for everyone.
     
     
     
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