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    you know for references are we ok to use a character reference as the 3rd reference. I'm going to use my current employer and university tutor as the first 2. Was wondering if I can use a character reference for the 3rd. Thanks.
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    (Original post by iceberger)
    you know for references are we ok to use a character reference as the 3rd reference. I'm going to use my current employer and university tutor as the first 2. Was wondering if I can use a character reference for the 3rd. Thanks.
    I can't find anything that specifically says that you can't but I would say that the statements they have put makes it sound like they want employment or education references only.

    The references page says the following: "The reference process is designed to check the accuracy of your previous employment and training history and to provide assurance of your suitability for employment."

    I think a character reference would not be able to do this. Also the questions they ask you about your references details make it sound like they want employment or university ones.

    Also the NHS jobs website says the following about references:

    " References will be sought covering a minimum period of 3 years from your current employer and previous employer/s."

    There is something similar to this on the references page of the application form as well. To the hospitals that will be employing you this is essentially another job application and will be treated in the same way as someone who has applied for a job through NHS jobs (once you have accepted the position). To me this implies that they will only accept employer or education references not personal character references.
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    (Original post by iceberger)
    you know for references are we ok to use a character reference as the 3rd reference. I'm going to use my current employer and university tutor as the first 2. Was wondering if I can use a character reference for the 3rd. Thanks.
    For my current NHS job and the application I put 2 of my PhD supervisors and my placement line manager. If you have a final year project supervisor or a lecturer that can comment on the areas on the specification marked "R" like resilience and attendance that would do.
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    (Original post by Bagsworth)
    For my current NHS job and the application I put 2 of my PhD supervisors and my placement line manager. If you have a final year project supervisor or a lecturer that can comment on the areas on the specification marked "R" like resilience and attendance that would do.
    Ive put down my most recent employer, and two research supervisors from undergraduate and postgraduate- do you think that would be ok, or they should just be employers and maybe one supervisor?
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    (Original post by librarygirl)
    Ive put down my most recent employer, and two research supervisors from undergraduate and postgraduate- do you think that would be ok, or they should just be employers and maybe one supervisor?
    I would think that would be fine. If you don't have any recent employment history then academic references would be fine. They should understand that a lot of people will apply having no real employment references to put from the last three years since they have been at university the whole time. It's just for NHS jobs, which this is require you submit references from the last three years. What you have sounds fine as long as they would be in a position to give a reference and comment on your suitability/verify what you've said is true.
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    (Original post by Bagsworth)
    I would think that would be fine. If you don't have any recent employment history then academic references would be fine. They should understand that a lot of people will apply having no real employment references to put from the last three years since they have been at university the whole time. It's just for NHS jobs, which this is require you submit references from the last three years. What you have sounds fine as long as they would be in a position to give a reference and comment on your suitability/verify what you've said is true.
    Well I do have other recent employment from ASDA so I suppose I should put them down as well. I thought at least putting one scientific supervisor would be appropriate given the nature of the job, but as you say, NHS probably want previous employers just like anyone else regardless of what job you apply for.

    Also, do you guys know what to do if your employer references do not have email addresses? Mine always contacted me by phone, and there is no information on the main websites.
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    Hi guys!

    I was wondering if anyone knows where to find information on how many places there are for each specialism.

    Thanks! Hope everyone's applications are going well
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    Anyone else getting p**ed off with the wording of the 3rd question? 'The NHS Constitution values and behaviours are paramount to the delivery of healthcare services. In less than 250 words please describe how within your own experience you would display these qualities'
    does it mean describe how within your own experiences you have displayed these qualities or how, if chosen for the programme, you would display these qualities?!
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    on the last but one page of the application it tells you the number of vacancies I think!!
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    (Original post by housefan12)
    Anyone else getting p**ed off with the wording of the 3rd question? 'The NHS Constitution values and behaviours are paramount to the delivery of healthcare services. In less than 250 words please describe how within your own experience you would display these qualities'
    does it mean describe how within your own experiences you have displayed these qualities or how, if chosen for the programme, you would display these qualities?!
    I took it as a bit of both really... I currently work in the nhs so went along the lines of how I already display these qualities and how i'd carry on if I was successful etc
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    Well I've went and submitted my application. Scary stuff! Best of luck to everyone applying.

    Can't remember if I've already asked: can you do the numerical reasoning, say on a Monday, and then logical reasoning the next day, Tuesday? Or do you have to do them immediately one after the other on the same day?
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    (Original post by librarygirl)
    Well I've went and submitted my application. Scary stuff! Best of luck to everyone applying.

    Can't remember if I've already asked: can you do the numerical reasoning, say on a Monday, and then logical reasoning the next day, Tuesday? Or do you have to do them immediately one after the other on the same day?
    You do them separately so yep, you can do them on different days, whenever you like as long as it meets the deadline.
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    (Original post by stp2015)
    You do them separately so yep, you can do them on different days, whenever you like as long as it meets the deadline.
    Ah thanks so much for letting me know it's quite challenging with only 75 seconds allocated. Practising gives me that same dilemma as an exam where a random song starts playing in my head! Must be stress.
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    Just to check - I know you don't find out straight away how well you do on the tests, but do you find out if you've passed or failed straight away?
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    (Original post by a6georgia1)
    Just to check - I know you don't find out straight away how well you do on the tests, but do you find out if you've passed or failed straight away?
    If it's like last year they don't tell you straight away. You have to wait til the deadline has passed before we find out.
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    I think they rank all the scores at the end and the bottom 30% or so (not sure on the actual number) fail. So if everyone does really well, the pass mark would be higher, if everyone does badly it would be lower.

    On top of that I think there's a minimum required mark as well, so if you do really badly you're eliminated automatically.
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    Ha all, really sorry to ask this again, but I just wanted to be sure before I started writing the resonse to question 3 (Values and behaviours).

    As there was no direct link to the the NHS constitution values and behaviours I found this site http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/thenhs/...rinciples.aspx

    Is this where other people got theirs from? More specifically are these the values that you aimed to demonstrate in your answer??

    Working together for patients
    Respect and dignity
    Commitment to quality of care
    Compassion
    Improving lives
    Everyone counts

    Again sorry if this has already been covered or if it is actually really obvious somewhere and I'm just being dim!!
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    (Original post by Superhellie)
    finally got the courage to do the tests today,

    WOW.

    i found the logic near impossible to figure out what was going on in about 70% of the questions

    the numerical wasn't so hard, just the panic-inducing time limit really didn't help!!

    how has everyone else found them?
    I've only done the practice, I similarly did not have a clue on most of the logic ones yet then somehow got a mark in the top bracket (exceeds expectations of something), so I wouldn't despair. Though I did guess lots of them, so think I just got really lucky!!!
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    (Original post by Superhellie)
    even the practice was easier than the real thing though..

    hmm... maybe the average mark will be quite low...*crosses fingers*!
    Oh no!!!

    I have heard that it gets harder the better you do, so maybe you've actually done really well
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    (Original post by Nightwing_)
    Oh no!!!

    I have heard that it gets harder the better you do, so maybe you've actually done really well
    how does that work? in the real test, if say the first few you answer correctly the system starts giving you harder questions??!?!
    but then not everyone is sitting the same tests!!!
 
 
 
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