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    What's everyone's opinions on UCL, Bristol and Durham? Struggling to pick between the three!!!
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    (Original post by ComputerMaths97)
    *Sighs*
    1) Never implied I had an offer
    2) Was obviously sarcasm, seeing how stuck up it sounded. How could I have even made it more sarcastic?
    I recall you saying elsewhere in the forum that you have an offer. Apologies for not picking up the sarcasm although there are some really arrogant people around so you can't tell sometimes...
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    (Original post by yl95)
    I recall you saying elsewhere in the forum that you have an offer. Apologies for not picking up the sarcasm although there are some really arrogant people around so you can't tell sometimes...
    Oh yeah I agree, however I can understand their arrogance, they've achieved something pretty good.

    Half my friends are yet to know I have an offer, despite me being the only one from our school with an offer so you'd think it would spread quick xD I only told like my best couple friends. To me it's not about being modest, it's just 100x more satisfying when someone comes out of their way randomly to congratulate you, than it is to tell loads of people yourself xD

    Plus I've always thought the education system just fortunately plays to my strengths, it's more hard work + luck than it is "I'm better than you" if you know what I mean
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    (Original post by yl95)
    100k...a week? lol no. 100k per annum is definitely doable. Not a week.
    Was sarcasm aha.
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    (Original post by allaboutGTAV)
    but it does..................

    My friends sisters graduated from there last summer
    She works in an office for a company that fits solar panels, in the dead end small town we live near
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    (Original post by ComputerMaths97)
    Oh yeah I agree, however I can understand their arrogance, they've achieved something pretty good.

    Half my friends are yet to know I have an offer, despite me being the only one from our school with an offer so you'd think it would spread quick xD I only told like my best couple friends. To me it's not about being modest, it's just 100x more satisfying when someone comes out of their way randomly to congratulate you, than it is to tell loads of people yourself xD

    Plus I've always thought the education system just fortunately plays to my strengths, it's more hard work + luck than it is "I'm better than you" if you know what I mean
    Its not going to be like that at Cambridge lol. It'll be an I'm better than you game

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    (Original post by ServantOfMorgoth)
    Its not going to be like that at Cambridge lol. It'll be an I'm better than you game

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    Couldn't care less if people think they're better than me xD
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    Imperial. I was having second thoughts for not applying there, because of its reputation, £5000 bursary and for the course I was interested in, 'Environmental Biology and Ecology', it had lower requirements than Natural Sciences which I had applied for elsewhere. However upon looking at the employment figures for that course, only ~75% were employed/further study after 6 months which is worrying since it was a decent sample size, too (~100), this figure is usually over 85-90%. I can only guess that it's because it may be a new course or they specialise quite a lot in the maths/physics/engineering side of things which they are known for, but not so much biology.

    This UCL bashing is quite worrying too, I have an offer from them for natural sciences and from Durham too, my top two choices. I wonder what is wrong exactly (except for the extortionate rent which I have heard about) or are they students from a 'rival' university by any chance?

    I'd say Nottingham and Manchester for being underrated. I think the only reason for their lower ranking is because they have so many students and such a wide range of courses, but they deserve more recognition.

    Warwick is an interesting one... I didn't apply there but the people I know who did apply got offers from them within a few weeks, but seem to have written them off completely, for various reasons including 'it's too modern', 'ugly', 'prison-like, terrible accommodation'. Perhaps its underrated in some regard? It claims to have always been in the top 10 since records began but I don't know many who have it as a first choice.
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    (Original post by bj1)
    Imperial. I was having second thoughts for not applying there, because of its reputation, £5000 bursary and for the course I was interested in, 'Environmental Biology and Ecology', it had lower requirements than Natural Sciences which I had applied for elsewhere. However upon looking at the employment figures for that course, only ~75% were employed/further study after 6 months which is worrying since it was a decent sample size, too (~100), this figure is usually over 85-90%. I can only guess that it's because it may be a new course or they specialise quite a lot in the maths/physics/engineering side of things which they are known for, but not so much biology.

    This UCL bashing is quite worrying too, I have an offer from them for natural sciences and from Durham too, my top two choices. I wonder what is wrong exactly (except for the extortionate rent which I have heard about) or are they students from a 'rival' university by any chance?

    I'd say Nottingham and Manchester for being underrated. I think the only reason for their lower ranking is because they have so many students and such a wide range of courses, but they deserve more recognition.

    Warwick is an interesting one... I didn't apply there but the people I know who did apply got offers from them within a few weeks, but seem to have written them off completely, for various reasons including 'it's too modern', 'ugly', 'prison-like, terrible accommodation'. Perhaps its underrated in some regard? It claims to have always been in the top 10 since records began but I don't know many who have it as a first choice.
    If you hear great things from UCL about why you should study there, don't expect those things to actually be great. Or exist at all.

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    Under: Sheffield, Birkbeck,

    Over: UCL, LSE and Kings
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    I don't get what people don't like about UCL.
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    Overrated: DEFINITELY UCL and KCL, and Edinburgh. Especially in the league tables lol.

    Honestly, besides Oxbridge, Imperial is the only university in my eyes that has a solid/stable university environment.

    I mean UCL isn't a bad uni of course.

    I find it quite annoying when individuals talk about how wonderful it is because its so close to Oxbridge on the league tables blah blah it really isn't that great.

    It has a poor sciences/maths department/not all that spectacular teaching, yet still requires the same (if not higher) high entry requirements Oxbridge requires in its conditional offers.
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    I feel like Sheffield is a fairly underrated university, it goes pretty unnoticed in the UK. It might have to do with the national rankings that it is estimated to be a top 30 university, although it consistently ranks top 100 in the world.
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    (Original post by frognation22)
    Overrated: DEFINITELY UCL and KCL, and Edinburgh. Especially in the league tables lol.

    Honestly, besides Oxbridge, Imperial is the only university in my eyes that has a solid/stable university environment.

    I mean UCL isn't a bad uni of course.

    I find it quite annoying when individuals talk about how wonderful it is because its so close to Oxbridge on the league tables blah blah it really isn't that great.

    It has a poor sciences/maths department/not all that spectacular teaching, yet still requires the same (if not higher) high entry requirements Oxbridge requires in its conditional offers.
    Actually, UCL's entry requirements are pretty low. It's Imperial's that can sometimes be higher than Oxbridge's.
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    (Original post by frognation22)
    Overrated: DEFINITELY UCL and KCL, and Edinburgh. Especially in the league tables lol.

    Honestly, besides Oxbridge, Imperial is the only university in my eyes that has a solid/stable university environment.

    I mean UCL isn't a bad uni of course.

    I find it quite annoying when individuals talk about how wonderful it is because its so close to Oxbridge on the league tables blah blah it really isn't that great.

    It has a poor sciences/maths department/not all that spectacular teaching, yet still requires the same (if not higher) high entry requirements Oxbridge requires in its conditional offers.
    what makes its maths department not good?
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    What's everyone's issue with UCL?!
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    (Original post by yl95)
    I recall you saying elsewhere in the forum that you have an offer. Apologies for not picking up the sarcasm although there are some really arrogant people around so you can't tell sometimes...
    Lol So true!
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    Thanks for the replies....
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    (Original post by wdkmwd)
    Let's talk about which Universities you in your opinion are the most overrated and Underrated.
    It's very subjective and depending on the definition of the rating. Usually, people rate universities based on 1. how smart students/graduates are, 2. how great their research outcomes are, 3. how great their historical contributions to civilisation have been. Handful universities like Oxbridge, HYPSM etc satisfy all conditions, but the vast majority of the universities on our planet lack one of (or some of) them. And here comes the problem of "overrated" and "underrated".

    For example, UCL, being often mentioned here, has very high research standards and its historical contributions to science and world politics/culture have been massive. However its selectivity/entry standards haven't been as impressive as its other elements (mostly behind Oxbridge/Imperial/LSE/st Andrews/Durham recently, and out of top 10 before 2010). So for the people who rate universities mainly based on the first element, UCL seems oddly overrated.

    On the other hand, the other universities like St Andrews/Durham are selective but not having impressive research outputs and/or historical presence. So for the people who think universities should be rated based on research qualities and/or history, such universities look unnaturally overrated.

    Strictly speaking, even Oxford can be seen as overrated in terms of entry standards (because Cambridge is more difficult to get in most cases), or Cambridge can be overrated when it comes to political/cultural influence compared to Oxford.

    So my answer is all universities are overrated and underrated to some extent, and because there are no fixed perceptions of how universities must be evaluated, this type of discussion will never be concluded (research fundamentalists and selectivity fundamentalists will never shake hands with each other. very similar to religious war).
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    (Original post by yl95)
    Actually, UCL's entry requirements are pretty low. It's Imperial's that can sometimes be higher than Oxbridge's.
    Yes good point. I've seen some subjects that will accept you with AAB, but what I've also found interesting is that for its more competitive subjects-sometimes it requires higher entry requirements than Oxbridge does.

    Im assuming it would be higher than Oxbridge in these areas because Oxbridge has already evaluated the candidates' intelligence thru the interviews, and thus doesn't need to require an A* sometimes like I've seen UCL do.
 
 
 
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