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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Not sure how you would mistake a DC10 for a 737 given that DC10 is trijet vs twin. The MD11 also has winglets while the DC10 doesn't; the 737 also has rather distinctive winglets, I do not believe there is any other common aircraft with similar winglets
    No, people will mistake the DC-10 for the MD-11 as both are trijjets, the 737 is the other aircraft that is possibly recognisable because of its history. Not all 737 variants have winglets, the 737 Classics do not, nor do all of the next-generation 737s. The 737s with winglets have similar winglets to retrofitted 757s, and 767s which could cause confusion but both aircraft are very different in appearance. I think individuals tend to associate any small aircraft with the 737 creating a situation where the A320 family, Embraer E-Jets, and Bombardier C-series are called 737s,
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    That's the one. Did I get GE and P&W the wrong way around? P&W I always remember because it has a funny name and the F16

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    P&W seem to be quite heavily favoured for US fighters. They power the F-22, F-35 and the F-15 in addition to the F-16.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    No, people will mistake the DC-10 for the MD-11 as both are trijjets, the 737 is the other aircraft that is possibly recognisable because of its history. Not all 737 variants have winglets, the 737 Classics do not, nor do all of the next-generation 737s. The 737s with winglets have similar winglets to retrofitted 757s, and 767s which could cause confusion but both aircraft are very different in appearance. I think individuals tend to associate any small aircraft with the 737 creating a situation where the A320 family, Embraer E-Jets, and Bombardier C-series are called 737s,
    The point still stands, the three most reognisable planes are the A380 due to the full second deck (although the bottom deck is much nicer in many ways), the 747 because of its hump, being so popular, its age and for so long being the only double decker, and concorde because no other successful aircraft has been like it (barely anybody knows of the soviet equivalent because it didn't really do so well, and was soviet), and to some the A340 given that 707 has been long out of service and has much smaller engines practically built into the wing. The well recognised jets are the big quads, after all, there aren't many, and the near unique ones, such as concorde, although the two groups overlap heavily.
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    Jammy Duel, I can't be too specific about how we plan to tackle tax avoidance yet, because I haven't yet done the necessary legal research, and there will necessarily be internal debate about what we believe is best, and what we may be able to get passed. However, some ideas I've had are to introduce a 'spirit of the rules' provision (the balance between certainty and substantive justice is one that I have yet to evaluate which is why I haven't submitted something to that effect this term), to give the state further information about bank accounts, and to abolish cash.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    Jammy Duel, I can't be too specific about how we plan to tackle tax avoidance yet, because I haven't yet done the necessary legal research, and there will necessarily be internal debate about what we believe is best, and what we may be able to get passed. However, some ideas I've had are to introduce a 'spirit of the rules' provision (the balance between certainty and substantive justice is one that I have yet to evaluate which is why I haven't submitted something to that effect this term), to give the state further information about bank accounts, and to abolish cash.
    I somehow doubt you will get that to pass, maybe all non socialists voting against?
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    I somehow doubt you will get that to pass, maybe all non socialists voting against?
    The abolition of cash isn't an inherently left-wing proposition. It just helps keep all transactions above-board and really helps to tackle underground markets.

    In case you were mistaken, by 'abolish cash' I do not mean 'abolish money'.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    The abolition of cash isn't an inherently left-wing proposition. It just helps keep all transactions above-board and really helps to tackle underground markets.

    In case you were mistaken, by 'abolish cash' I do not mean 'abolish money'.
    So you propose that we move towards electronic transactions? That would be a good idea in theory, but not practical (or even possible) for at least a couple of decades, as many elderly people etc. would struggle to adapt to this system. Heck, even my 67 year-old nan still withdraws her cash from the Post Office!
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    (Original post by Whiggy)
    So you propose that we move towards electronic transactions? That would be a good idea in theory, but not practical (or even possible) for at least a couple of decades, as many elderly people etc. would struggle to adapt to this system. Heck, even my 67 year-old nan still withdraws her cash from the Post Office!
    I still heavily rely on cash, it's the best way to know that I definitely have the means to pay, limits spending somewhat, and helps one keep track of how much money they have left.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    I still heavily rely on cash, it's the best way to know that I definitely have the means to pay, limits spending somewhat, and helps one keep track of how much money they have left.
    This is true, if I don't leave my card at home when I go on a night out, goodness knows what I'll end up spending.
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    This is true, if I don't leave my card at home when I go on a night out, goodness knows what I'll end up spending.
    I take mine with me but get cash out before going in anywhere

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    I don't doubt software-based solutions to your problems would emerge if free markets work, and either way, the benefits may outweigh the costs (I haven't figured it through yet).

    Whiggy, obviously we're not going to say 'yeah tomorrow we're getting rid of everything', it's likely at least a 5-year rollout.

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    Aph, the reason Socs and Libs haven't been in coalition together lately is that the Libs refuse to participate with the Socs. We may or may not choose to participate if offered to.
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    (Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
    The abolition of cash isn't an inherently left-wing proposition. It just helps keep all transactions above-board and really helps to tackle underground markets.

    In case you were mistaken, by 'abolish cash' I do not mean 'abolish money'.
    (Original post by Whiggy)
    So you propose that we move towards electronic transactions? That would be a good idea in theory, but not practical (or even possible) for at least a couple of decades, as many elderly people etc. would struggle to adapt to this system. Heck, even my 67 year-old nan still withdraws her cash from the Post Office!
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    I take mine with me but get cash out before going in anywhere

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    Whether or not you remove cash and move to a largely electronic payments system or not, there is still a need for education and awareness of how to manage money and what the various financial products on offer mean. This would be a part of the proposed qualification in energy and household management that is in our manifesto.
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    (Original post by Lime-man)
    RayApparently

    Was Nigel allowed to release the extended manifesto, as it seems to be very much against the rules. My recommended punishment for that action would be to not allow UKIP to take their seats in the house and to allocate them to the Conservative Party.
    This behaviour by UKIP does not surprise me. Also that UKIP seem to have forgotten that the TSR electorate has voted to remain in the EU.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    No, people will mistake the DC-10 for the MD-11 as both are trijjets, the 737 is the other aircraft that is possibly recognisable because of its history. Not all 737 variants have winglets, the 737 Classics do not, nor do all of the next-generation 737s. The 737s with winglets have similar winglets to retrofitted 757s, and 767s which could cause confusion but both aircraft are very different in appearance. I think individuals tend to associate any small aircraft with the 737 creating a situation where the A320 family, Embraer E-Jets, and Bombardier C-series are called 737s,
    The types of aircraft and how they look I will leave ti others in the House and Michael O'Leary to charge for small extras when flying.

    There is a broad level of support for developing high speed rail in this country, alongside that already in Europe. So we should be looking to end almost all passenger flights within England and say no to a third runway at Heathrow.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Anyhow, my assessment of the manifestos..

    Greens - A horrid and bland backdrop and very unimaginative policies. Also, there's nothing here on the environment.
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    A plan to expand renewable energy and no to fracking are both environmental policies.
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    Is it too late to add a Monster Raving Looney Party

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    (Original post by QuantumSnowy)
    Is it too late to add a Monster Raving Looney Party

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    We had one but they died out.
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    No independents, don't people do that anymore?
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
    No independents, don't people do that anymore?
    I intended to stand as an Independent, although decided against it this election.
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    (Original post by thunder_chunky)
    No independents, don't people do that anymore?
    Both Lime-man and Whiggy could have stood but are waiting for the next GE. Lime-man might even plan to join the Conservatives - I'm not sure.
 
 
 
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