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    (Original post by TimmonaPortella)
    This is both a tragedy and an absolute disgrace. Apparently we're now the kind of country that has political killings.
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    What if Farage died ?

    Would there be celebrations ?
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    RIP. So sad for her kids :/
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    He is white and shouted "Britain First" according to a witness.
    Yes I am aware.

    Aamir Tahir, of The Dry Clean Centre, said: "The lady I work with heard two loud bangs but I wasn't there, I was stuck in traffic at the time. I wish I was there because I would have tried to stop him. The whole street thinks it was me but it wasn't. Apparently the guy who did it shouted 'Britain first' and if I had been there I would have tackled him."

    It just didn't seem like a reliable source to me.

    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    Bit like if he was brown and shouted Allah Akbar, you would have no problem calling him a Muslim Fanatic.
    I don't see how race has anything to do with this. Regardless of whether it was a Muslim or not, I wouldn't make assumptions based of a single sketchy eyewitness report.
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    Well yes it is looking like a far right fanatic but smearing UKIP or the vote leave campaign as far right is far wrong
    I would expect nothing less from that particular poster.
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    (Original post by otester)
    It depends, if both left/right wing are extreme variants of socialism and center is capitalism, then ok, but otherwise...
    The nationalism part is the overriding principle, that's the logic that started WW2. It's fairly unequivocally associated with the right wing. That's not a condemnation of the right wing in general, since the political spectrum system encompasses a wide range of ideals, and groups them as "wing" generally based on correlation. Saying that right wing ideology is overtly bad is facile, but it does seem to have contributed to more violence in recent history that the ideals we'd normally think of as "left wing".
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    (Original post by NickLCFC)
    Yes I am aware.

    Aamir Tahir, of The Dry Clean Centre, said: "The lady I work with heard two loud bangs but I wasn't there, I was stuck in traffic at the time. I wish I was there because I would have tried to stop him. The whole street thinks it was me but it wasn't. Apparently the guy who did it shouted 'Britain first' and if I had been there I would have tackled him."

    It just didn't seem like a reliable source to me.



    I don't see how race has anything to do with this. Regardless of whether it was a Muslim or not, I wouldn't make assumptions based of a single sketchy eyewitness report.
    agree, another witness was asked if he heard him shout Britain First and he said not at all
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    This is awful.
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    (Original post by physicsphysics91)
    http://www.batleynews.co.uk/news/loc...site-1-2976712

    Indicates that he might have had a mental illness.
    How did you get that from the website?
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    (Original post by NickLCFC)
    Yes I am aware.

    Aamir Tahir, of The Dry Clean Centre, said: "The lady I work with heard two loud bangs but I wasn't there, I was stuck in traffic at the time. I wish I was there because I would have tried to stop him. The whole street thinks it was me but it wasn't. Apparently the guy who did it shouted 'Britain first' and if I had been there I would have tackled him."

    It just didn't seem like a reliable source to me.



    I don't see how race has anything to do with this. Regardless of whether it was a Muslim or not, I wouldn't make assumptions based of a single sketchy eyewitness report.
    Yeh, well, obviously, it isn't reliable. The eye witness is probably brown and Muslim and the attacker is white.

    If it was the other way round, you would have no problem.
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    MP's will have armed guard's in future? Perhaps.

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    Heartbreaking to consider that she was a mother of two as well. Hard to believe that this could happen to an MP here.
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    Nobody is saying it was down to his mental illness.. i am saying it is likely given the little information we have. I am not trying to depoliticise anything, i am simply countering rabid mouthbreathers who are fabricating lefty fantasy narratives like yourself and Fullofsurprises based on sweet FA evidence other than your agenda
    Ffs, he shouted Britain first.
    Of course though, nothing to do with being a far right extremist, all because he must be 'mentall ill'

    Perhaps clear off this thread and allow genuine mourning for Jo Cox rather than seeking to defend far right terrorists.
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    (Original post by Thutmose-III)
    Actually, that's probably not true. Has there been a left-wing Breivik in the last 30 or 40 years? Are there any left-wing groups that carry out the equivalent of firebombing attacks on synagogues and mosques as neo-Nazis do? Are there any left-wingers that conduct shootings equivalent to how hard right religious lunatics target abortion doctors and clinics?

    There used to be left-wing terrorism in Europe (Baader-Meinhof Gang, Red Brigades, Carlos the Jackal etc). It really doesn't exist anymore. Right-wing terrorism does still exist. To the extent that some left-wing idiots have been violent at anti-Trump demonstrations, so have Trump supporters been violent to such demonstrators. All of them should be locked up.

    But if you think the lunatic world of the Trump camp and the exaggerated things that go on around it constitute the entire political universe then you're really not very bright
    Left wing terrorism still exists and is still violent.
    One example is BLM what people refuse to classify as a terrorist group despite it ticking the definition of domestic terrorism definition and ties to cop killings.


    There is the sect of Revolutionaries in Greece who also went around killing cops
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    Yeh, well, obviously, it isn't reliable. The eye witness is probably brown and Muslim and the attacker is white.
    Yep, okay, great discussion!
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Ffs, he shouted Britain first.
    Of course though, nothing to do with being a far right extremist, all because he must be 'mentall ill'

    Perhaps clear off this thread and allow genuine mourning for Jo Cox rather than seeking to defend far right terrorists.
    A witness said he shouted britain first
    Another witness said he didn't
    And you jump to the conclusion that he did? Why not wait until the information is out, why spread rumours that you can't back up? Btw im in no way a supporter of far right groups, quite the opposite actually, i just find it funny how you assume because twitter said so it must be 100% true
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    Ffs, he shouted Britain first.
    Of course though, nothing to do with being a far right extremist, all because he must be 'mentall ill'

    Perhaps clear off this thread and allow genuine mourning for Jo Cox rather than seeking to defend far right terrorists.
    Sky news interviewed a guy who said he did not hear that shouted..

    One witness said the man attacked a 76 year old man of which Jo tried to intervene and was murdered...

    Do you see the problem here? We have conflicting stories of what happened and what was said

    Of course this is me professing my love for murderous terrorists
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    Yeh, well, obviously, it isn't reliable. The eye witness is probably brown and Muslim and the attacker is white.

    If it was the other way round, you would have no problem.
    Maybe the fact that they weren't there is what makes it unreliable.
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    Political violence isn't new. We've had one Prime Minister assassinated and plenty of MPs attacked and murdered.

    I believe the last major incident was the stabbing of Stephen Timms in 2010 which he was lucky to escape from with his life

    I wonder if a debate will now arise about MP safety
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    (Original post by NickLCFC)
    Yep, okay, great discussion!
    Yeh. I mean....it is not as if there is other evidence..

    ......
    In a blog post at the far right Springbok Cyber Newsletter’s website, Mair is described as “one of the earliest subscribers and supporters of “S.A. Patriot.” On the magazine’s website, it’s described as being pro-free market capitalism and patriotism and anti-political correctness and “expansionist Islam.”.....


    Sounds like he would fit in most of the Nationalists on here.
 
 
 
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