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    (Original post by Pinkberry_y)
    Could you imagine Christians having the nerve to ring church bells in Saudia Arabia? They wouldn't get out alive
    Why is Saudi Arabia always the representative of the Muslim populace? I mean Egypt is 3 times as big, pretty much one of the largest Muslim countries in the world, and there church bells are rung every Sunday. I am against the Adhan here but it pisses me off when people choose less than 1% of the Muslim population to represent all of them.
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    (Original post by oShahpo)
    Why is Saudi Arabia always the representative of the Muslim populace? I mean Egypt is 3 times as big, pretty much one of the largest Muslim countries in the world, and there church bells are rung every Sunday. I am against the Adhan here but it pisses me off when people choose less than 1% of the Muslim population to represent all of them.
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    For real brah?

    "a teacher in Minya who filmed his students mocking the jihadists of Islamic State was convicted in court of blasphemy and sentenced to three years in prison."

    Anti-ISIS = prison in Egypt. Tell me again how ISIS does not represent Islam. That whole religion is a complete joke. And the west is getting more and more tired of its excuses.
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    The issue here above all else is amplification.

    Muslims do not need for any reason to hear the call to prayer and the petition gives the game away on that by excluding calls at anti-social times.

    Few people would complain if a muezzin went to the top of a tall tower and made the call with his own unamplified voice 5 times a day. It would be seen as quaint.

    Bell ringing is not comparable because it is part of the social history of this country. No-one would allow churches or anyone else to introduce a new method of making regular loud noises.

    The reason for this proposal is to extend the reach of political Islam. It is no different to the 19th century innovation of church congregations parading through towns; to show their numerical strength and power in comparison with rival denominations.
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    (Original post by oShahpo)
    Why is Saudi Arabia always the representative of the Muslim populace? I mean Egypt is 3 times as big, pretty much one of the largest Muslim countries in the world, and there church bells are rung every Sunday. I am against the Adhan here but it pisses me off when people choose less than 1% of the Muslim population to represent all of them.
    If Egypt is the example we have of how Muslims treat 'others' then they are just as bad and perhaps even worse than Saudi.
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    The worst thing about going to Muslim countries when I've visited are those horrid moans that come from the speakers near mosques... I'm just being honest... There's nothing I like less than people who try to evangelise others... 21st century Britain should be aiming to become a secular state instead
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    (Original post by ODES_PDES)
    Then please move to Saudi Arabia.
    If she lives in a Muslim area, then honestly I don't see the problem of letting them broadcast the adhan there. We have religious freedom in this country, Saudi Arabia does not.
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    (Original post by Pinkberry_y)
    And we certainly aren't a Muslim country either to be having call out prayers 5 times a day here
    The petition says 3 times a day. They already do that in East London Mosque and is very loud. If they are still doing it doesn't that mean the government has already allowed it?
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    If she lives in a Muslim area, then honestly I don't see the problem of letting them broadcast the adhan there. We have religious freedom in this country, Saudi Arabia does not.
    What about the non-Muslims in that area? What about their freedom to not have to hear this?

    What about Christian freedom? There are multiple examples of things regarding Christianity, e.g. Christmas, have been put down because of Muslims feeling offended.
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    No. Islam is fundamentally at odds with the values of our society. They have the freedom to practice their religion, but everyone else has the freedom not to hear them doing so.

    If they want a call to prayer, I'd advise them to move to an Islamic country.
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    (Original post by MMM1997)
    The petition says 3 times a day. They already do that in East London Mosque and is very loud. If they are still doing it doesn't that mean the government has already allowed it?
    I truly have lost all hope for East London...
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    If she lives in a Muslim area, then honestly I don't see the problem of letting them broadcast the adhan there. We have religious freedom in this country, Saudi Arabia does not.
    This will just further segregation. Do you think any non-muslim would want to move in a area where English is the minority language, streets are full of asian bazaar style shops and have double digit mosques now blasting out Arabic calls to prayer?
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    (Original post by nulli tertius)
    The issue here above all else is amplification.

    Muslims do not need for any reason to hear the call to prayer and the petition gives the game away on that by excluding calls at anti-social times.

    Few people would complain if a muezzin went to the top of a tall tower and made the call with his own unamplified voice 5 times a day. It would be seen as quaint.

    Bell ringing is not comparable because it is part of the social history of this country. No-one would allow churches or anyone else to introduce a new method of making regular loud noises.

    The reason for this proposal is to extend the reach of political Islam. It is no different to the 19th century innovation of church congregations parading through towns; to show their numerical strength and power in comparison with rival denominations.

    Completely agree. Even then having someone shouting the call to prayer at anti social times would also be unwelcome. bellin ringing can also be restricted if considered a nuiscance.
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    HAnwar's a girl :laugh:
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    (Original post by inhuman)
    What's up sexy boi? Wanna get naughty with me?
    What in the world?
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    (Original post by inhuman)
    What about the non-Muslims in that area? What about their freedom to not have to hear this?

    What about Christian freedom? There are multiple examples of things regarding Christianity, e.g. Christmas, have been put down because of Muslims feeling offended.
    Well as a Christian, I do think it's important to ring church bells and spread the Gospel without being persecuted for it, if that's what you're asking.
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    (Original post by Plantagenet Crown)
    HAnwar's a girl :laugh:
    Even better, I am more into girls anyway.

    But alas, she has ignored my post :/ so sad
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    Well as a Christian, I do think it's important to ring church bells and spread the Gospel without being persecuted for it, if that's what you're asking.
    The first part I agree with. I don't like it but it is part of our culture and it has a rather nice ring to it.

    The second part, what does that mean? Would you feel persecuted if I spread the opposite of what you are doing?
 
 
 
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