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    (Original post by silentears)
    Thanks anyway, the admission office said that the diplomas in singapore polytechnic are not accepted.
    Most of the top London unis don't accept a Singapore diploma unfortunately because they require a A level math equivalent grade to be considered. My friend's a top graduate from Ngee Ann poly with a 3.9, rejected by lse as well. You should try other unis, study hard and try to transfer/ scholarship anyways my gap isn't fantastic but I got into the university of Birmingham, bsc money, banking and finance

    You should get in touch with a local agent, they should know where your grades can take you. Pm me if you need help
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    Hello everyone! Since this is the nearest I can find, I decided to drop a post here! I'm a Malaysian, yes your neighbour country haha! Currently doing A-Levels now at Taylor's College Subang Jaya, Malaysia and would be flying to UK next year September to pursue Actuarial Science! Hope that someone will reply me.. lol~ at least to greet me or something. :O
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    (Original post by Nicholasng925)
    Hello everyone! Since this is the nearest I can find, I decided to drop a post here! I'm a Malaysian, yes your neighbour country haha! Currently doing A-Levels now at Taylor's College Subang Jaya, Malaysia and would be flying to UK next year September to pursue Actuarial Science! Hope that someone will reply me.. lol~ at least to greet me or something. :O

    Heh, where are you doing Actuarial Science at...LSE?
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    (Original post by Narev)
    Heh, where are you doing Actuarial Science at...LSE?
    LOL! Nope, but that's one of my choices that I'm gonna apply this year via UCAS.
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    trying to budget for my freshman year. could anyone kindly give a ballpark figure, per month, on living costs excluding airfare, accomodation and tuition fees, OUTSIDE London. Assuming I don't go club/drink/havoc/whatever often, occasionally eat out, don't have to take a bus to school and cook most of the time, since I'm non-catered.

    Much Appreciated!
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    (Original post by Isaacchan)
    trying to budget for my freshman year. could anyone kindly give a ballpark figure, per month, on living costs excluding airfare, accomodation and tuition fees, OUTSIDE London. Assuming I don't go club/drink/havoc/whatever often, occasionally eat out, don't have to take a bus to school and cook most of the time, since I'm non-catered.

    Much Appreciated!
    Living costs incl. accommodation will be about 6,000-7,500 quid during term time for one year. Works out to about 50-90 quid/week excl. acc., depending on your lifestyle, location relative to uni etc. obviously.

    I've based my figures on university brochures in case you're wondering.
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    (Original post by Nicholasng925)
    LOL! Nope, but that's one of my choices that I'm gonna apply this year via UCAS.

    Ahh - thought you already had an offer. Would MORSE be one of your choices?
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    (Original post by Narev)
    Ahh - thought you already had an offer. Would MORSE be one of your choices?
    Yes obviously. I will be applying for Cass, LSE, Warwick (MMORSE), Heriot-Watt and Cambridge (Maths). Still having a dilemma on which university to choose excluding Cambridge.. :confused:
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    You can choose Warwick. MMORSE has lots of flexibility, focuses on math modules in first two years so you'd be able to work and understand actuarial models better..and also a fall back option if you decide you're not interested in Actuarial Science - there are still three other streams.

    There's also a strong Malaysians Student Association as well...
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    (Original post by Narev)
    You can choose Warwick. MMORSE has lots of flexibility, focuses on math modules in first two years so you'd be able to work and understand actuarial models better..and also a fall back option if you decide you're not interested in Actuarial Science - there are still three other streams.

    There's also a strong Malaysians Student Association as well...
    Warwick has too many Malaysians! Can form a small kampung there already LOL! I completely aware that MMORSE gives me lots of flexibility in terms of future careers just in case I were not interested in Actuarial Science anymore, although I still think that Actuarial and Financial Mathematics is the most interesting stream compared to three other streams.

    What are you studying now?
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    Umm..I'm doing MMORSE at Warwick - but on the Statistics and Mathematics stream. Kind of found out in my second year I wasn't interested in being an actuary, and was happy I rejected LSE's Actuarial Science for MMORSE.

    Warwick has the best Dikir Barat though!
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    (Original post by Narev)
    Umm..I'm doing MMORSE at Warwick - but on the Statistics and Mathematics stream. Kind of found out in my second year I wasn't interested in being an actuary, and was happy I rejected LSE's Actuarial Science for MMORSE.

    Warwick has the best Dikir Barat though!
    Oh!!! Wow you're doing MMORSE! What did you all actually learn during your first and second year? Any differences with normal Maths degree in term of Maths contents? Dikir Barat LOL! I see.. but I'm not that interested though towards Malay culture. :P
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    Well, I learnt a lot of hard math in my first and second year - includes analysis, algebra, metric spaces, measure theory, as well as statistics usually covered in year 3/4 of other uni courses, such as likelihood principle, MGFs, Fisher's Information, Cramer Rao, Markov chains, etc.

    I guess game theory in Economics as well as decision analysis...

    You'd be surprised - many Year 1s (Chinese included) participate in the annual dikir for MNight. In fact, I was also asked to do Dikir this year..considering I'm a Year 3...(Which I declined, but perhaps I should have done it..)
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    (Original post by Narev)
    Well, I learnt a lot of hard math in my first and second year - includes analysis, algebra, metric spaces, measure theory, as well as statistics usually covered in year 3/4 of other uni courses, such as likelihood principle, MGFs, Fisher's Information, Cramer Rao, Markov chains, etc.

    I guess game theory in Economics as well as decision analysis...

    You'd be surprised - many Year 1s (Chinese included) participate in the annual dikir for MNight. In fact, I was also asked to do Dikir this year..considering I'm a Year 3...(Which I declined, but perhaps I should have done it..)
    Do you have any friends doing Actuarial Science at LSE or Cass? What are their feedbacks regarding their university life and quality of lectures? Would the course structure of MMORSE be slightly much rigorous than that of Actuarial Science degree at LSE/Cass?

    Since MMORSE is the flagship degree of Warwick and since Warwick is one of the top universities for Maths in the UK, I assume that MMORSE must be a very intensive course, even much intensive that a normal Actuarial Science degree at LSE/Cass. I could be wrong though haha!

    Oh Dikir Barat! But what language do they use for performance? Malay right? :O Gasp. My Malay language proficiency has been rotting since the day I finished my SPM, which was more than a year ago. :eek:
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    (Original post by Nicholasng925)
    Do you have any friends doing Actuarial Science at LSE or Cass? What are their feedbacks regarding their university life and quality of lectures? Would the course structure of MMORSE be slightly much rigorous than that of Actuarial Science degree at LSE/Cass?

    Since MMORSE is the flagship degree of Warwick and since Warwick is one of the top universities for Maths in the UK, I assume that MMORSE must be a very intensive course, even much intensive that a normal Actuarial Science degree at LSE/Cass. I could be wrong though haha!

    Oh Dikir Barat! But what language do they use for performance? Malay right? :O Gasp. My Malay language proficiency has been rotting since the day I finished my SPM, which was more than a year ago. :eek:
    Unfortunately, no - I don't really know anyone doing Actuarial Science at these Universities.

    However, a brief glance at the modules shows that MORSE is way more rigorous than Actuarial Science. It's like - you learn the maths behind the models in your first two years in MMORSE, and then learn the real actuarial material in the last two years. Whereas when you do Actuarial Science, you learn the actuarial material first, followed by the mathematics (if any) behind it.

    Reason why it's like this at Warwick is because MMORSE is 4 years (for actuarial), and there are four streams, so the common factor behind these streams is the mathematics - you get to learn how to apply it in your last two years to your chosen field.

    MMORSE is quite intensive - you do learn math in the first year that other universities may cover in their second year, and as well as measure theory (usually a graduate module or a finalist module) in your second year. But the good part is that you'll be equipped (given that you actually work hard at these modules) with the tools to not only understand, use, work, modify actuarial models, but to break them and create new actuarial models where needed. And perhaps more.

    As for Dikir, there is some Malay, but some of the songs are in English as well, and I think they modify from pop culture too. Remember - audience for MNight also includes VIPs from Warwick, as well as other English speaking people. If I'm not mistaken, MNight won the Best Society Event Award this year :P
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    (Original post by Narev)
    Unfortunately, no - I don't really know anyone doing Actuarial Science at these Universities.

    However, a brief glance at the modules shows that MORSE is way more rigorous than Actuarial Science. It's like - you learn the maths behind the models in your first two years in MMORSE, and then learn the real actuarial material in the last two years. Whereas when you do Actuarial Science, you learn the actuarial material first, followed by the mathematics (if any) behind it.

    Reason why it's like this at Warwick is because MMORSE is 4 years (for actuarial), and there are four streams, so the common factor behind these streams is the mathematics - you get to learn how to apply it in your last two years to your chosen field.

    MMORSE is quite intensive - you do learn math in the first year that other universities may cover in their second year, and as well as measure theory (usually a graduate module or a finalist module) in your second year. But the good part is that you'll be equipped (given that you actually work hard at these modules) with the tools to not only understand, use, work, modify actuarial models, but to break them and create new actuarial models where needed. And perhaps more.

    As for Dikir, there is some Malay, but some of the songs are in English as well, and I think they modify from pop culture too. Remember - audience for MNight also includes VIPs from Warwick, as well as other English speaking people. If I'm not mistaken, MNight won the Best Society Event Award this year :P
    Wow that sounds really interesting! So MMORSE is something like Maths graduates equipped themselves with sufficient knowledge of Maths before taking their actuarial exams, which would be slightly faster than others in passing the exam? In my opinion, I think it would be better if I learnt all the Maths first before applying it by pursuing the actuarial stream, instead of learning the concepts and Mathematics behind it at the same time. It could be dreadful if you don't have solid foundation in Maths. Oh yeah by the way, I don't think MMORSE students who chose actuarial stream learn anything about Contingencies (CT5)? cause no exemption is given for that particular paper.

    Dikir, it wouldn't be that bad if some of the songs are in English! I prefer that haha! Dikir itself is quite unique, just that it's Malay culture! err..
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    Somewhat yes - but I think the key part is understanding why the mathematics behind it work, rather than given: "This works, believe in it." It's also quite useful when you graduate and when you see a model, and question the assumptions behind it - there are stories told where models break down and economists / statisticians / actuaries make humongous mistakes because they made a false assumption which they ought to know doesn't hold if they actually took the math modules behind it...

    On the flip side, you do take an extra year to complete MMORSE, as opposed to doing a three year Actuarial Science degree.

    I do agree that it's better to learn the Math first, so at least you know what you are doing, and can actually apply the Math to something else (maybe if you don't want to be an actuary, or after an actuarial career)...

    They don't learn about Contingencies, unfortunately.


    True, it is Malay culture, but nothing wrong about that
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    (Original post by Narev)
    Somewhat yes - but I think the key part is understanding why the mathematics behind it work, rather than given: "This works, believe in it." It's also quite useful when you graduate and when you see a model, and question the assumptions behind it - there are stories told where models break down and economists / statisticians / actuaries make humongous mistakes because they made a false assumption which they ought to know doesn't hold if they actually took the math modules behind it...

    On the flip side, you do take an extra year to complete MMORSE, as opposed to doing a three year Actuarial Science degree.

    I do agree that it's better to learn the Math first, so at least you know what you are doing, and can actually apply the Math to something else (maybe if you don't want to be an actuary, or after an actuarial career)...

    They don't learn about Contingencies, unfortunately.

    True, it is Malay culture, but nothing wrong about that
    It's true that when you cram everything into your head while studying, you will somehow miss one or two fundamental points or assumptions that you ought to know. I know that by doing Maths first, I can actually apply the knowledge to broader fields. It's funny to see how I was so determined to go to Cass/LSE a year before, and turned out to be aiming for MMORSE instead. I know lots of people will be laughing at me especially those who wanted to pursue Actuarial Science, but I knew that it would be worth it in the end. Plus, I would have campus life to enjoy finally, after having stayed in the urban area for 19 years!

    I'm planning to pursue MSc in Actuarial Management at Cass after my undergraduate degree, so CT5 (Contingencies) will be covered in it along with Core Application papers and Specialist Technical papers, to get further exemptions.

    Yeah I'm okay with Malay cultures too, considering that I was from one of the fully residential schools before my SPM, and surrounded by more than 99% of Malays. :cool:
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    Totally missed the Predeparture talk from the British Council! Oh man did they mention anything important?
 
 
 
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