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    (Original post by jam277)
    Anyway Baconbutty was right about Lyrical Prodigy.
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    (Original post by TornadoGR4)
    I dislike Phil a lot more than Gary.
    Was it because of what he said on motd a few weeks back? That he'd two foot or smash somebody who did etc etc to him, yeah that was weird.
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    (Original post by Lyrical Prodigy)
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    Was it because of what he said on motd a few weeks back? That he'd two foot or smash somebody who did etc etc to him, yeah that was weird.
    No, no, I didn't think that was that bad. I just find Phil a lot more insufferable. He's worse for punditry and commentary than Gary
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    Not sure what Gary said but Ozil just goes missing it seems in the big games.
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    (Original post by TornadoGR4)
    No, no, I didn't think that was that bad. I just find Phil a lot more insufferable. He's worse for punditry and commentary than Gary
    Oh yeah I'd agree with that. It's why he's not on Sky but on the BBC. They're all like that bar Shearer and the other guy that left last year.
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    (Original post by Malevolent)
    Not sure what Gary said but Ozil just goes missing it seems in the big games.
    Well he was saying Ozil doesn't have the best attitude when he's playing for Arsenal, that he doesn't seem like a battler(like Sanchez is), he also said that he doesn't mind Ozil losing possession, but it's more what he does when he loses the possession that frustrates him, while Sanchez will press the opposition hard to regain the ball back(I've seen him live guys pressing levels are amazing, it's something you have to watch live to really appreciate honestly) Ozil will be more lackadaisical, will walk about and not press for the ball back etc. He did a couple times yday but that wasn't good enough.

    Thing is at Madrid, Mourinho made him bust a gut and subbed him off after 60mins to utilise him and Di Maria at their best. You don't see Ozil making those runs as much that just allow the counter to be utilised so effectively. Remember that acceleration Ozil had in the world cup 2010 or at Madrid? I don't think he's finished, but his game style is not being used to full effect at Arsenal, not in big games that's for sure.

    If anything he said there was harsh, tell me. I don't know if he said anything after the game or whatever, but his in game commentary was spot on.

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    I don't think Ozil was the biggest problem yesterday though, Sanchez was just as poor, but the strikers were atrocious, while Arsenal deserved the loss in every way, Giroud should have finished his chances(the header and the other sitter in the 2nd half) and the game is 3-3 and tie is on, credit to Chamberlain for the goal but he didn't add much either and lost the ball a few times, Monaco looked like they could score more. It wasn't really the creative players fault, it took way too long to get it into the creative players, the CBs were just slowing the tempo, Coquelin and Cazorla in the midfield two were poor in their distribution, and when facing a defensive side like monaco, you have to do a Barcelona/Chelsea to score, pass it about from side to side patiently but with a quick tempo, which allows the team to focus on overloads on a particular side, first 5 mins of the Arsenal match they did that quite well, which meant that Gibbs/Bellerin could move forward and attack the space left by the outside channels because the wingers and fullbacks were already occupied with doubling up Sanchez/Welbeck.

    Afterwards if you just slow the tempo like Arsenal did, at home it allows the other team to regain their defensive shape, which means you rely either on individual brilliance like Sanchez doing his best Messi impression from the half way line or a long shot.


    Thing about Gary Neville is that his commentary is quite brutal, remember him saying Luiz looked like he was being controlled by a 12 year old on playstation, I massively disagreed a few years ago, but think he got that bit spot on. Ozil will come good though, get a DM who can play from deep so Ozil can worry less about defensive duties and do what he does best.
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    Is the Ospina experiment now over?

    Can we bring back Szczesny, probably would have saved all 3 goals yesterday.


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    (Original post by Peggles_*)
    Is the Ospina experiment now over?

    Can we bring back Szczesny, probably would have saved all 3 goals yesterday.


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    You guys could do with a Mignolet
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    (Original post by Lúcio)
    being the best united defender isn't really difficult though is it?

    srs question - rank the defensive quality of united, liverpool and arsenal.
    That's like asking if you want a punch in the face or a kick to the groin.

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    You guys were ****ing dreadful last night, even we could have done a Monaco on you.
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    (Original post by Peggles_*)
    Is the Ospina experiment now over?

    Can we bring back Szczesny, probably would have saved all 3 goals yesterday.


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    We've never actually managed to replace Lehamann which is what really ****s me off.

    Really should have got Lloris before he went to Tottenham
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    (Original post by sr90)
    That's like asking if you want a punch in the face or a kick to the groin.

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    You forgot a third option

    Personally, I'd say that Arsenal have the best personnel; they have their occasional breakdowns but overall they're probably better than the other two.

    Liverpool are probably second best; without the right system they can be painfully bad, but in this system we're much more solid.
    Still terrible aerially and through set pieces though.

    United are stone dead last. They have far from the best personnel; Rojo is okay and Shaw isn't completely useless but aside from that there isn't really anybody of note.
    Some defenders (Evans, smalling) make hilarious mistakes and all in all they're just terrible as a unit.
    No offence, just how I see it - you have a quality keeper though
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    The frustrating thing is there were goals to be had yesterday, 2 open goals missed that Giroud header. People can say Monaco were defensively outstanding but if our strikers weren't complete **** we would have scored 4.

    Can't believe I'm saying this but scrappy doo is actually needed for the second leg, I think its clear now we can't have both Santi and Ozil playing in the middle, its suicide. A midfield of Coq Wilshere and Ozil/Cazorla/Rosicky with Walcott Sanchez on wing and Giroud up front (or Ox and Walcott wing and Sanchez up top) is dangerous but balanced, Walcott made their lb look like a fool for the 25 mins he was on, he has to start before Welbeck.

    Don't even get me started on Ospina and Mert if Gab doesn't start on Sunday I'll massively piased off
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    (Original post by The Shed End)
    Couldn't quote these for some reason
    Lyrical Prodigy - Monaco! ****ING YESSSS
    Zurich -
    Will have a full on meltdown when Monaco are 3-0 up after 20m in the first leg and we go out 4-3 on aggregate


    I said "try" not we are gonna hammer them. Giroud shoulda scored 4 goals. He missed 4 easy chances and Welbeck shoulda scored too. Just an off day. Could have easily been 6-4 or 6-5. Monaco also missed a good chance.
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    (Original post by leinad2012)
    The frustrating thing is there were goals to be had yesterday, 2 open goals missed that Giroud header. People can say Monaco were defensively outstanding but if our strikers weren't complete **** we would have scored 4.

    Can't believe I'm saying this but scrappy doo is actually needed for the second leg, I think its clear now we can't have both Santi and Ozil playing in the middle, its suicide. A midfield of Coq Wilshere and Ozil/Cazorla/Rosicky with Walcott Sanchez on wing and Giroud up front (or Ox and Walcott wing and Sanchez up top) is dangerous but balanced, Walcott made their lb look like a fool for the 25 mins he was on, he has to start before Welbeck.

    Don't even get me started on Ospina and Mert if Gab doesn't start on Sunday I'll massively piased off
    We lost cos Giroud missed 2 tap ins, an open goal and an easy header.
    Cazorla and Ozil only works against teams in PL cos they are crap and can't deal with creative players.
    We need Wilshere ASAP. He actually tries to win the game when we are losing and at least someone else will actually try other than Sanchez.
    Mert looked like he didn't care at all that its his fault Monoco scored two.
    Our midfield were just passing it about all casually like they were 5-0 ahead. Only Walcott and Sanchez tried to do something.
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    (Original post by Peggles_*)
    Is the Ospina experiment now over?

    Can we bring back Szczesny, probably would have saved all 3 goals yesterday.


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    Szczensy has much better reactions than Ospina. He would have at least saved 2 of those goals.
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    If Mertaseker is not dropped for Gabriel yet idk what Wenger is thinking anymore.
    Mert has cost us at least 10 goals this season.
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    (Original post by ETRC)
    We lost cos Giroud missed 2 tap ins, an open goal and an easy header.
    Cazorla and Ozil only works against teams in PL cos they are crap and can't deal with creative players.
    We need Wilshere ASAP. He actually tries to win the game when we are losing and at least someone else will actually try other than Sanchez.
    Mert looked like he didn't care at all that its his fault Monoco scored two.
    Our midfield were just passing it about all casually like they were 5-0 ahead. Only Walcott and Sanchez tried to do something.
    I don't want to be hard on Giroud because his record before yesterday was outstanding. He had an off day at the worst time possible but fully expect him to score this weekend.

    I feel so sorry for Welbeck tho, I think everyone wants him to make it but he just isn't there, people on the united thread are right, for once, he's a £8mil Sunderland standard striker at best atm.

    I think the issue with Mert is doesn't shows he cares and has admitted he's lost the drive needed. Ox was mortified when he was to Blane for the goal Mert doesn't look like he cares (same could be said for Ozil tbf but at least he isn't complete ****).

    Tbh the midfield were awful too, so many misplaced passes. Wilshere performed well before his injury hopefully he can do the same in the next 5 games before he gets injured again.

    We have to bounce back and smash Everton like 4-0 no celebrations after each goal, just ruthlessness
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    (Original post by leinad2012)
    The frustrating thing is there were goals to be had yesterday, 2 open goals missed that Giroud header. People can say Monaco were defensively outstanding but if our strikers weren't complete **** we would have scored 4.

    Can't believe I'm saying this but scrappy doo is actually needed for the second leg, I think its clear now we can't have both Santi and Ozil playing in the middle, its suicide. A midfield of Coq Wilshere and Ozil/Cazorla/Rosicky with Walcott Sanchez on wing and Giroud up front (or Ox and Walcott wing and Sanchez up top) is dangerous but balanced, Walcott made their lb look like a fool for the 25 mins he was on, he has to start before Welbeck.

    Don't even get me started on Ospina and Mert if Gab doesn't start on Sunday I'll massively piased off
    Well Giroud isn't world class, because he reached 50 goals faster than Drogba doesn't mean ****. He is a limited striker and always will be. Welbeck is a waste of space, luckily he is still relatively young and English so we should bin him in the summer and get some decent money for him. We need a world class striker and have needed so for 3 seasons now, must be addressed in the summer.

    I really don't think Monaco were that great, they just did the usual thing against Arsenal which is wait for them to make a mistake, which of course, we did.

    The team selection was just all wrong last night. Having two attacking full backs left probably the slowest CB in the league exposed. The full back pairing should be Nacho/Bellerin, Gibbs/Chambers, having Gibbs/Bellerin is just too attacking. Don't even know why Monreal was dropped, he's been our best defender this season. Welbz is ****. Does nothing but run around aimlessly, is a workhorse. Offered absolutely nothing. Was surprised he got the nod ahead of Theo, especially at home.

    Other than Coquelin, our entire midfield went missing, both Ozil and Santi had stinkers.

    Lol Ospina is basically a short Almunia, having watched the goals back he really should have done better on all 3. Szcz saves the 1st and 3rd definitely, the 3rd was bread and butter for any keeper who isn't a midget.

    Per needs to fix up quick or he will find himself on the bench in no time. Saying this, if that were to happen, who would be captain with both Arteta and Per out?


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    Lol, I cannot believe this, we are pining for Wilshere!

    Christ on a bike is this how bad it had gotten?!


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    (Original post by ETRC)
    Szczensy has much better reactions than Ospina. He would have at least saved 2 of those goals.
    Oh this is glorious.
    "If we played our error-prone, out of favour keeper, we would've easily found a result."

    You were second best by a long way, suck it up and move on.
 
 
 
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