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    Are you there protesting with them?


    About trees?


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    Are you there protesting with them?

    About trees?
    Do I detect sarcasm? :hmmm:
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    (Original post by Username97)
    Are you there protesting with them?


    About trees?


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    Yes, I was there this afternoon.
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    (Original post by RamocitoMorales)
    Do I detect sarcasm? :hmmm:
    not sure...
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    (Original post by RamocitoMorales)
    Do I detect sarcasm? :hmmm:
    I find their actions laughable. They want to save trees and the environment, but they burn things, covering the city in black smoke. I don't even want to talk about the damage done to people and their properties, smashing their shop windows in and harming pedestrians.
    I just hope this isn't another 1/05/1977 event.


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    I find their actions laughable. They want to save trees and the environment, but they burn things, covering the city in black smoke. I don't even want to talk about the damage done to people and their properties, smashing their shop windows in and harming pedestrians.
    I just hope this isn't another 1/05/1977 event.
    I don't think it's about the 'trees' anymore, but rather the level of police brutality and authoritarian government.
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    (Original post by RamocitoMorales)
    I don't think it's about the 'trees' anymore, but rather the level of police brutality and authoritarian government.
    Agreed. All the newspaper articles are making us look like Syria, it's actually embarrassing.


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    Agreed. All the newspaper articles are making us look like Syria, it's actually embarrassing.
    The portrayal appears to be of an oppressed population rising against an Islamist government. Although this is not strictly true, my contacts in Turkey are genuinely disgruntled with the current government and many people are protesting in whatever way they can.
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    (Original post by Username97)
    I find their actions laughable. They want to save trees and the environment, but they burn things, covering the city in black smoke. I don't even want to talk about the damage done to people and their properties, smashing their shop windows in and harming pedestrians.
    I just hope this isn't another 1/05/1977 event.


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    I don't think it's about the 'trees' anymore, but rather the level of police brutality and authoritarian government.
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    It's not only about the "trees" as Ramocito said.
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    (Original post by RamocitoMorales)
    The portrayal appears to be of an oppressed population rising against an Islamist government. Although this is not strictly true, my contacts in Turkey are genuinely disgruntled with the current government and many people are protesting in whatever way they can.
    I really have no idea what the government has done to make the public hate them, to the extent it's come to. My contacts in Turkey favour Erdogan; most voted for him, because ever since he has come into power all they have seen has been improvement.

    What I also fail to understand is why this country wants a PM of Kurdish descent.


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    I find their actions laughable. They want to save trees and the environment, but they burn things, covering the city in black smoke. I don't even want to talk about the damage done to people and their properties, smashing their shop windows in and harming pedestrians.
    I just hope this isn't another 1/05/1977 event.


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    It's not really about trees. I mean, it started out as that - saving a park (an important one nonetheless as public parks make up a very very small portion of the land in Istanbul) - but has now snowballed into what could potentially turn into a national uprising.

    My understanding of it is that the AKP gets so much hate because they view themselves as the ultimate power, they act on their own intentions and not of the common peoples. They have become less prone to accountability because they have replaced and corrupted much of the military and politics in Turkey and have changed the secular stance of Turkey into an Islamic one. In Turkey, the military have a history of intervening in politics and they are capable of removing elected parties. But, since Erdogans AKP have replaced top military officials with their own carefully selected puppets, they effectively control that power. They have disabled the one-way that was capable of prematurely ending their governance and thus do not have to answer to anyone.

    This started out as a simple and peaceful protest (from what I saw) but because of the brutal control methods by the police, it has catalysed into this.
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    It's not really about trees. I mean, it started out as that - saving a park (an important one nonetheless as public parks make up a very very small portion of the land in Istanbul) - but has now snowballed into what could potentially turn into a national uprising.

    My understanding of it is that the AKP gets so much hate because they view themselves as the ultimate power, they act on their own intentions and not of the common peoples. They have become less prone to accountability because they have replaced and corrupted much of the military and politics in Turkey and have changed the secular stance of Turkey into an Islamic one. In Turkey, the military have a history of intervening in politics and they are capable of removing elected parties. But, since Erdogans AKP have replaced top military officials with their own carefully selected puppets, they effectively control that power. They have disabled the one-way that was capable of prematurely ending their governance and thus do not have to answer to anyone.

    This started out as a simple and peaceful protest (from what I saw) but because of the brutal control methods by the police, it has catalysed into this.
    I don't think it's completely down to the police, though. It is the police's job to ensure the protests are safe, and I've see footage of rioters attacking innocent civilians, who were actually trying to get to their exams. Not to mention them harming people's property.


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    Are you there protesting with them?


    About trees?


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    I wonder when all of this is going to stop...

    And what the outcome will be, if anything.
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    All my plans and dreams visiting Istanbul this September have died Parents won't allow
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    All my plans and dreams visiting Istanbul this September have died Parents won't allow
    I don't see why not, my brother's there at the moment.
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    I don't see why not, my brother's there at the moment.
    My parents think it's dangerous. But probably we will go there next summer
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    My parents think it's dangerous. But probably we will go there next summer
    As with any protests most of the time, you just ought to avoid the areas where they are taking place, and thats it.

    I am going this summer, it will most likely be over by then anyway. :yes:
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    As with any protests most of the time, you just ought to avoid the areas where they are taking place, and thats it.

    I am going this summer, it will most likely be over by then anyway. :yes:
    It is solo hard to explain all this to parents. They think all city is burning or something we (my family) never been in the turkey, probably we shouldn't risk but it's my dream to visit turkey one day
 
 
 
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