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    (Original post by internetguru)
    How does your party feel about members backing by-election candidates that support the banning of porn?
    Like we've already told you, we support the banning of commercialisation and sale of porn, not the banning of it entirely.
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    (Original post by PoGo HoPz)
    Like we've already told you, we support the banning of commercialisation and sale of porn, not the banning of it entirely.
    But why it makes no sense.
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    (Original post by PoGo HoPz)
    Like we've already told you, we support the banning of commercialisation and sale of porn, not the banning of it entirely.
    save your breath, the guy is just a troll with no life, let him stew and post his dross and wait for his inevitable banning.
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    (Original post by SciFiRory)
    save your breath, the guy is just a troll with no life, let him stew and post his dross and wait for his inevitable banning.
    You are such a fascist. What right does the government have to ban the sale of something just because they feel like it? Do you have no consideration for the number of businesses that will be hit and the jobs that will be lost?

    You party supports the sale of sex yet opposes the sale of recordings of sex it is absolute nonsense. Nobody in the real world or the rest of MHoC agrees with you it is absolute madness.
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    (Original post by SciFiRory)
    save your breath, the guy is just a troll with no life, let him stew and post his dross and wait for his inevitable banning.
    Duly noted.
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    (Original post by PoGo HoPz)
    Duly noted.
    (Original post by SciFiRory)
    save your breath, the guy is just a troll with no life, let him stew and post his dross and wait for his inevitable banning.
    So your approach is to remain ignorant of any counter arguments and just write them off as being from a troll and therefore invalidate them. You should probably go back to your Socialist sub forums where everybody agrees with each other, as you clearly cannot handle the big bad public room where people disagree with you. Your debating skills are non existent which explains why I have never seen or heard of you as you clearly attempt to avoid debates at all costs due to your obvious lack of ability.
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    How does your party feel about members backing by-election candidates that support the banning of porn?
    I don't really care to be honest, this is the least of my worries.

    Could you start to ask some more politically relevant questions please about policy?
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    (Original post by RoryS)
    I don't really care to be honest, this is the least of my worries.

    Could you start to ask some more politically relevant questions please about policy?
    What is Labour's policy on foreign aid, Afghanistan, Syria and Iran?
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    What is Labour's policy on foreign aid, Afghanistan, Syria and Iran?
    A question for our Shadow Foreign Secretary.

    (Original post by eff01)
    QFA
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    (Original post by RoryS)
    A question for our Shadow Foreign Secretary.
    Why? If you have a policy anyone can put it forward.
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    (Original post by RoryS)
    A question for our Shadow Foreign Secretary.
    Okay what is your own opinion on those things?
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    Why? If you have a policy anyone can put it forward.
    As a newly elected MP, I just want him to gain the experience of answering tough political questions here.

    I also believe the role of the Shadow Cabinet is to answer questions relevant to their role rather than those who are most active just answering all questions posed.
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    What is Labour's policy on foreign aid, Afghanistan, Syria and Iran?
    I thank the gentleman for his question and I wish him well in the forthcoming by-election.

    On the question of foreign aid, this opposition firmly believes that as developed nations it is our duty to help developing nations in the best way possible. We support an increase in the ID budget and increasing aid to nations that have made clear progress or intentions to reform. We believe in sensible aid, where donation givers know exactly where their money is going and how their money is being used. We disagree with this notion of giving large amounts of aid to governments without ever knowing how the money is being spent. The issue of foreign aid is important, we encourage the spending of aid on educational programmes in particular the schooling of young children and girls and investment in healthcare. Several people ask for my opinion on countries such as India, which is recipient of MHoC aid. Although yes, India is a powerful developing economy, but we have to remember that only a decade ago, India did not have the means to feed most of its population. Issues of feeding its population still remain and in these cases we need to start to encourage governments to start supporting its own citizens. Problems of bureaucracy and unfortunately corruption often disrupt the distribution of aid, we need to encourage the implementation of mechanisms where countries can combat such situations and deal with them successfully.

    We have to remember that throwing money at a situation doesn't solve it. Political along with economic reform is necessary in order for developing economies to prosper. Ideally a situation should develop where developing countries are encouraged to invest aid in certain sustainable projects to give people in those countries a sustainable form of income and profession and indeed in the coming weeks I will release more details on this idea.

    On the issue of Syria- we categorically condemn the brutality of the al Assad regime. It is unacceptable and the regime has lost all legitimacy. We strongly believe al Assad should leave office with immediate effect and be held accountable for his actions. We also urge the international community to avoid giving members of this brutal regime a free 'get out of jail' pass and instead all members should be tried for their horrific crimes against humanity. We welcome news of the contemplation of a no fly zone, but believe strongly that this should be Arab led and legitimised through the UN. We disagree completely with Western led regime change. It is important to note that any change in Syria must come from within, this is crucial for the future and sustainability of Syria post al Assad. I would also take this opportunity to thank the House for its support of my latest motion regarding the situation in Syria.

    Afghanistan- Removing the Taliban from office was categorically the right thing to do. The oppressive and barbaric nature of the Taliban regime was unacceptable. Women could to leave the house and men did not have the freedom to even shave their beards. UK military action in the country at first was chaotic. Intervention went from removing Al Qaeda and the Taliban to nation building. This notion that Afghanistan will become a beacon of democracy overnight is incorrect, democracy takes time to develop. We support the UK's stance from moving from a military role to training the Afghan army, this is correct. It up to the people of Afghanistan to determine their future, however this idea that come 2013 we are going to 'shut up shop and leave' is incorrect. We have committed to Afghanistan, we have committed to nation building in Afghanistan, thus we need a plan in place where we continuously support the country in whatever means the Afghan government deems possible. We should not abandon the Afghan people but similarly we should not interfere post 2013 in the running of their country. We should take a supporting role, in where we train the Afghan army in order for them to secure their own future. The freedoms of women and children should be paramount and we categorically reject anything that undermines the progress of empowering Afghan women and allowing children to create their own future.

    Iran- We condemn Tehran's efforts to provoke countries to respond. We reject Iranian comments such as 9/11 being orchestrated by Washington, this is unacceptable. We similarly reject Iranian comments against Israel. Israel has the right to remain where it is and that is the reality. Israel 'aint going anywhere' (separate issue regarding Israel and Palestine, but general point that Israel has a right to remain in the ME). We believe Iran should halt all nuclear activity and allow international observers to thoroughly investigate their nuclear programme. Iran continuously states that its nuclear programme is for peaceful means, we say if that is the case then Iran has nothing to fear if observers come to investigate its programme. Any country's future, be it Iran, North Korea..lies in unity with the international community and we hope Iran and similar nations stop their attempted provocation and follow the path of peace and global integration, that is beneficial for the government and the people.

    I hope that has answered your questions. If you want to ask something directed towards a particular policy or situation in any country, feel free to ask.

    On this issue of 'why should the ShadFS answer the q, don't you guys know your policy'- Of course we do. But in this thread we like to give an opportunity for the designated Shadow Sec of State to respond, thus it keeps all of the MHoC informed of who is who and also you guys can find out about what bills/motions we are planning on bringing forward and our designated department's policy ideas.

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    (Original post by eff01)
    I thank the gentleman for his question and I wish him well in the forthcoming by-election.

    On the question of foreign aid, this opposition firmly believes that as developed nations it is our duty to help developing nations in the best way possible. We support an increase in the ID budget and increasing aid to nations that have made clear progress or intentions to reform. We believe in sensible aid, where donation givers know exactly where their money is going and how their money is being used. We disagree with this notion of giving large amounts of aid to governments without ever knowing how the money is being spent. The issue of foreign aid is important, we encourage the spending of aid on educational programmes in particular the schooling of young children and girls and investment in healthcare. Several people ask for my opinion on countries such as India, which is recipient of MHoC aid. Although yes, India is a powerful developing economy, but we have to remember that only a decade ago, India did not have the means to feed most of its population. Issues of feeding its population still remain and in these cases we need to start to encourage governments to start supporting its own citizens. Problems of bureaucracy and unfortunately corruption often disrupt the distribution of aid, we need to encourage the implementation of mechanisms where countries can combat such situations and deal with them successfully.

    We have to remember that throwing money at a situation doesn't solve it. Political along with economic reform is necessary in order for developing economies to prosper. Ideally a situation should develop where developing countries are encouraged to invest aid in certain sustainable projects to give people in those countries a sustainable form of income and profession and indeed in the coming weeks I will release more details on this idea.

    On the issue of Syria- we categorically condemn the brutality of the al Assad regime. It is unacceptable and the regime has lost all legitimacy. We strongly believe al Assad should leave office with immediate effect and be held accountable for his actions. We also urge the international community to avoid giving members of this brutal regime a free 'get out of jail' pass and instead all members should be tried for their horrific crimes against humanity. We welcome news of the contemplation of a no fly zone, but believe strongly that this should be Arab led and legitimised through the UN. We disagree completely with Western led regime change. It is important to note that any change in Syria must come from within, this is crucial for the future and sustainability of Syria post al Assad. I would also take this opportunity to thank the House for its support of my latest motion regarding the situation in Syria.

    Afghanistan- Removing the Taliban from office was categorically the right thing to do. The oppressive and barbaric nature of the Taliban regime was unacceptable. Women could to leave the house and men did not have the freedom to even shave their beards. UK military action in the country at first was chaotic. Intervention went from removing Al Qaeda and the Taliban to nation building. This notion that Afghanistan will become a beacon of democracy overnight is incorrect, democracy takes time to develop. We support the UK's stance from moving from a military role to training the Afghan army, this is correct. It up to the people of Afghanistan to determine their future, however this idea that come 2013 we are going to 'shut up shop and leave' is incorrect. We have committed to Afghanistan, we have committed to nation building in Afghanistan, thus we need a plan in place where we continuously support the country in whatever means the Afghan government deems possible. We should not abandon the Afghan people but similarly we should not interfere post 2013 in the running of their country. We should take a supporting role, in where we train the Afghan army in order for them to secure their own future. The freedoms of women and children should be paramount and we categorically reject anything that undermines the progress of empowering Afghan women and allowing children to create their own future.

    Iran- We condemn Tehran's efforts to provoke countries to respond. We reject Iranian comments such as 9/11 being orchestrated by Washington, this is unacceptable. We similarly reject Iranian comments against Israel. Israel has the right to remain where it is and that is the reality. Israel 'aint going anywhere' (separate issue regarding Israel and Palestine, but general point that Israel has a right to remain in the ME). We believe Iran should halt all nuclear activity and allow international observers to thoroughly investigate their nuclear programme. Iran continuously states that its nuclear programme is for peaceful means, we say if that is the case then Iran has nothing to fear if observers come to investigate its programme. Any country's future, be it Iran, North Korea..lies in unity with the international community and we hope Iran and similar nations stop their attempted provocation and follow the path of peace and global integration, that is beneficial for the government and the people.

    I hope that has answered your questions. If you want to ask something directed towards a particular policy or situation in any country, feel free to ask.

    On this issue of 'why should the ShadFS answer the q, don't you guys know your policy'- Of course we do. But in this thread we like to give an opportunity for the designated Shadow Sec of State to respond, thus it keeps all of the MHoC informed of who is who and also you guys can find out about what bills/motions we are planning on bringing forward and our designated department's policy ideas.

    Okay well I disagree with Labour's foreign policy.
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    Okay well I disagree with Labour's foreign policy.
    Cool, cool

    What's your view?
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    (Original post by eff01)
    Cool, cool

    What's your view?
    Foreign aid needs reform. It cannot simply be a handout for nothing in return we should demand goods or natural resources.

    I disagree with nation building in Afghanistan the Taliban's rule has nothing to do with us we simply went there to get Bin Laden and his gang. With the internet and other unstable regions the whole idea of terrorist training camps is no longer relevant and even with the Taliban back in power it will not result in more terrorist attacks. We should leave Afghanistan immediately.

    We should condemn Assad but we should refrain from sending any troops or attacking ourselves. I would have no issues with a US led invasion though.

    With Iran we should just leave it alone and lift the sanctions. It is no threat to us and isolating it will only damage progressive movements in the country.
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    Foreign aid needs reform. It cannot simply be a handout for nothing in return we should demand goods or natural resources.
    Agree to a certain extent. Not necessary demand, but certainly forge economic links with them. Make sure the aid is invested in something sustainable that they can then trade to the world. I agree, this something for nothing in many cases hasn't worked. Making sure these countries are interlinked in the world economy is crucial for their progress and the progress of the people.

    (Original post by internetguru)
    We should condemn Assad but we should refrain from sending any troops or attacking ourselves. I would have no issues with a US led invasion though.
    Agree, with your first sentence. However I doubt the US would act unilaterally, especially in an election year. I don't believe that the West should intervene militarily at all. Any intervention should be Arab led. Only Syrian people can bring change.

    Afghanistan- You can't go into a country, ruin it and leave then. Our mission went for capturing OBL/removing Taliban to nation building. We should train Afghan army, so they can determine their own future. We should remain as a supporting partner, there at the point of need. Ultimately fate of Afghanistan is in the hands of Afghanis.

    Iran- Ultimately Iran's future lies in the international community. No doubt about that. They should give up their provocation as it is not beneficial to any side.
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    (Original post by eff01)

    Agree, with your first sentence. However I doubt the US would act unilaterally, especially in an election year. I don't believe that the West should intervene militarily at all. Any intervention should be Arab led. Only Syrian people can bring change.

    Afghanistan- You can't go into a country, ruin it and leave then. Our mission went for capturing OBL/removing Taliban to nation building. We should train Afghan army, so they can determine their own future. We should remain as a supporting partner, there at the point of need. Ultimately fate of Afghanistan is in the hands of Afghanis.

    Iran- Ultimately Iran's future lies in the international community. No doubt about that. They should give up their provocation as it is not beneficial to any side.
    So really you are just relying on Turkey?

    The US did the ruining, they bombed it they should do the nation building not us. It is time we left. The whole training army stuff is nonsense it is more about satisfying private contractor and arms company lobbyists than anything. How long does it take to train a soldier in the UK? A year.

    Why can't we just ignore Iran? They troll all the time anyway and whenever they say anything at the UN all the diplomats run away anyway. No need to turn that into an invasion.
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    So really you are just relying on Turkey?
    Since when is Turkey Arabic?
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    (Original post by JPKC)
    Since when is Turkey Arabic?
    I don't know what Turkey is. Then the only other country with a military capable of an invasion is Saudi Arabia. They are hardly the country that should be invading to bring democracy considering they don't have one.
 
 
 
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