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    The tories aren't human, some of the recent decisions and policies do nothing for most people, they just protect the rich, banks and big business.
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    (Original post by goose1990)
    Well then lower job seeker's allowance! Slightly kidding but maybe if you're earning 21k you can't afford to live in a £350 pcm flat, I know that's pretty cheap but there's a lot cheaper out there if you're willing to share, maybe not in London or big cities!
    Why should this person bother studying if they're going to end up living in slum dwellings with £50 pw to spend on bills and clothing?
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    (Original post by Ocassus)
    The working class really shouldn't be called the working class anymore. The middle class tends to be the middle aged, conservative small c, stable job. Etcetera, it's hard to really draw a line on class though. But really only the middle class should be rightfully upset with this. But then they are the bulk of the conservative voting base, and support for the tuition fee rises are quite high, just not voiced. The people who turned up at the student protests were a tiny minority, and the ones who caused violence are an even smaller minority of a minority.
    If I leave you alone for long enough then collect your musings they'd make for an excellent work of fiction.
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    (Original post by Ocassus)
    Because I have a different opinion to you I am delusional?

    One moment I am going to go fetch my tinfoil hat, all this immigration conspiracy is something new on tsr. Tories are by ideology AGAINST immigration hence the name conservative, but they are also a party of pragmatics under Cameron so he has to display a level of compassion for immigrants. And why not? A fully qualified Palestinian doctor is so so much more valuable to a student studying 'golf stories'.
    You're delusional because you assume that a certain demographic agrees with you on the principal of shared heritage. You fail to appreciate that civil uprising in this country (according to basic laws of proportion) will be conducted by a largely homogeneous group derived from the majority population.

    You're delusional also because you assume the game being played is so well disguised that no one will notice.

    I'm just one random poster on this message-board, but I'm letting you know.

    Many people notice.
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    (Original post by Gimme More)
    You're delusional because you assume that a certain demographic agrees with you on the principal of shared heritage. You fail to appreciate that civil uprising in this country (according to basic laws of proportion) will be conducted by a largely homogeneous group derived from the majority population.

    You're delusional also because you assume the game being played is so well disguised that no one will notice.

    I'm just one random poster on this message-board, but I'm letting you know.

    Many people notice.
    Who's many huh? You nor I has touched the lives of a million people, which is a tiny amount of people in comparison. Furthermore the student protests ARE s minority, the statistical evidence is there as is the overall vote % received for the conservative party in the GE.
    Labour realised in 1997 that they could never get elected by sticking to their old socialist roots because the world IS about consumerism, it is part of the very infrastructure of our foundation and our heritage, we are competitive creatures afterall.

    Condescending insults? By critical thinking theory sir I have already won the argument/debate, but I shall continue out of pure curiosity, this charade of pseudo intelligence from you is amusing.

    Nevermind you are clearly more racist than the average right winger...
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    (Original post by Gimme More)
    Why should this person bother studying if they're going to end up living in slum dwellings with £50 pw to spend on bills and clothing?
    What are these slum dwellings of which you speak? There are no true slums in England....
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    (Original post by Gimme More)
    Why should this person bother studying if they're going to end up living in slum dwellings with £50 pw to spend on bills and clothing?
    Because they can have a 3 year piss up and not pay a penny back.
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    (Original post by Gimme More)
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    What like Marx himself?
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    (Original post by Ocassus)
    It is true.

    This country is Conservative with a small C. Why the hell do you think parties have deliberately shifted right in order to be electable?
    What an idiotic statement. All the parties have shifted more towards the centre to become more electable. Labour have had to shift to the right in recent years to become electable and the Tories have had to shift more towards the centre. David Cameron would not have won (a minority) without Cameron's brand of 'campassionate conservatism' even if it was just a ploy to gain votes. Do you really think that a country that is conservative would have such high support for the NHS or have such a large public sector? America is conservative, we are not.
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    (Original post by shadow99)
    The tories aren't human, some of the recent decisions and policies do nothing for most people, they just protect the rich, banks and big business.
    Not a very well thought through statement and utter illeducated tosh.
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    (Original post by Steevee)
    Interesting ot to that from what I wrote, but whatever

    No, not greedy people, realists.
    Economic Policy should be based on what's best for the country in the long term, not what a few spoilt children want now. Or money grabbing adults.

    The Tories arn't Labour, they're not going to bring in stupid policies to get everyone's votes. They're the types that try to cut the deficit, rather than giving away free laptops to scroungers, or setting up a scheme to keep unemployment figures lower. (EMA )
    so... risking a fall in education standards is best for the country in the long term?

    and by 'scroungers' do you mean those whose parents can't afford to pay for their education?
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    (Original post by dnaalpha)
    so... risking a fall in education standards is best for the country in the long term?

    and by 'scroungers' do you mean those whose parents can't afford to pay for their education?
    Many things are risked in economics, it's a lare facet of the whole thing. Risk vs Reward and whatnot.

    And no, by scroungers I mean those that leech off the state. That work cash in hands jobs and still claim benifits, those that have non-existant 'back pain' and those that vote for people who promise them laptops. The underclass, the leeches and the plebs. Those are the scroungers. And sadly, there are more and more of them, because they have no pride or self respect and see the dole as a legitimate way to make money in life. If I had my way they'd all be in government work schemes.
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    (Original post by shadow99)
    The tories aren't human, some of the recent decisions and policies do nothing for most people, they just protect the rich, banks and big business.
    Please do go ahead and list those policies. I feel you'll have hard time as you're spouting nonsense.
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    (Original post by steevee)
    many things are risked in economics, it's a lare facet of the whole thing. Risk vs reward and whatnot.

    And no, by scroungers i mean those that leech off the state. That work cash in hands jobs and still claim benifits, those that have non-existant 'back pain' and those that vote for people who promise them laptops. The underclass, the leeches and the plebs. Those are the scroungers. And sadly, there are more and more of them, because they have no pride or self respect and see the dole as a legitimate way to make money in life. If i had my way they'd all be in government work schemes.
    hear hear!!
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    (Original post by Tha_Black_Shinobi)
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    One nation toryism. But that centre ground isnt in the middle, it is conservative politics with a small c. It tells you about the voting as a whole that labour went further right than left as conservative. It is only Margaret thatcher who branded the new, extreme right, prior to that it was one nation conservatism which is camerons brand and is simply less extreme. My statement about the voting habits of the country sill stands.
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    (Original post by shadow99)
    The tories aren't human, some of the recent decisions and policies do nothing for most people, they just protect the rich, banks and big business.
    Wow thanks for that. I did not realise that two years free university as well as loans that do not have to be paid back until you earn 21k helped those rich bankers. As well as a 50% tax rate. These are all policies that make money for the rich and keep the poor poor right?
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    (Original post by Ocassus)
    One nation toryism. But that centre ground isnt in the middle, it is conservative politics with a small c. It tells you about the voting as a whole that labour went further right than left as conservative. It is only Margaret thatcher who branded the new, extreme right, prior to that it was one nation conservatism which is camerons brand and is simply less extreme. My statement about the voting habits of the country sill stands.
    You keep using "conservatice with a small c" in the wrong context, stop making yourself look silly. It means someone who generally has conservative leanings but is not a supporter of the Conservative party. At least know what you are arguing about
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    (Original post by Gimme More)
    Parents who can immediately pay off a £9,000 student loan - grinning along with their cackling brat.



    True.

    But still, I stated that Conservative Party Members are a minority in this country. Is this NOT true?
    Yes it may be the truth, but they are also the largest minority. They were voted in by the public and so have a mandate to implement the policies that were stated in their manifesto. If we weren't to listen to them, tell me, who would we listen to? Because the country agrees most on Conservatives and less on the other parties.
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    (Original post by Summergirl.x)
    Yes it may be the truth, but they are also the largest minority. They were voted in by the public and so have a mandate to implement the policies that were stated in their manifesto. If we weren't to listen to them, tell me, who would we listen to? Because the country agrees most on Conservatives and less on the other parties.
    Only conservatives agree with conservatives.

    The majority of the people in this country are poor. They DO NOT agree with you.
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    (Original post by Ocassus)
    What are these slum dwellings of which you speak? There are no true slums in England....
    Your ignorance is astonishing.
 
 
 
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