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    (Original post by fojodef)
    Looking at some of the threads by guys who are not really into black girls.
    I can see some of the issues.
    It seems largely people have no problem with dating black girls.
    But guys from affluent backgrounds who look for marriage tend to have a problem.

    most youngsters dont really think far ahead logistically in terms of marriage.
    for most youngsters its just about finding someone you love.
    leading a family as a unit or a house hold is rarely thought about.
    the exception is young people from affluent backgrounds. their family is often affluent for a reason. because they view partners in this house hold management way.
    for example they marry into wealth.
    most kids from our generation don't really care about that. and when they do its very trashy gold digger girls.

    affluent people operate like this.
    your parents have "parties" (not raves but like champagne, hors d'oeuvres and bruno mars back ground music.)
    where they get all their rich friends and all their kids to come round.
    they put all the kids together and let them socialise.
    these are all people with businesses and high education. who will see that their children do well and can provide business opportunities for each other and each others kids. "oh daniel jr has graduated as an architect? well there is a place for him at my company waiting for him" that kind of thing. those kids will maintain their links with those other rich kids and become the new parents with their own kids. always expending and gaining wealth.

    so your a white british person from a middle class family. your parents own at least 1 business and you drive a 4x4.
    thats the profile of this guy.

    dating a minority.
    minorities complain a lot because they have it hard.

    so why would you want to date someone that complains about your privilege when you could just date someone like you and only worry about 1 difference. gender.

    they have it hard
    if you have it easy. and your looking for a wife to start a family with. why are you going to choose a women who has it hard?
    surely dating another who is just as if not more successful than you. you want to marry someone that will help you move forward.
    not carry someone who complains that will take you a step back.

    kids.
    having mixed race kids its difficult.
    your going to be raising someone who is going to have a very different experience in life. plus have a very different identity to you. this difference between you and your own child will make it difficult for you to understand things from your child's point of view and therefor will be less able to coach your child through life as you would a child that had a very similar identity to you. not only this. but your child is going to inherit the same minority status as the women you have the child with.

    so even if you've married this women and moved her into a nice big house and you've both got nice big jobs and you send your kid to a nice big school. at that school. at those "parties" you have. your kids will always be the minority.

    even in a city like london that is probably the most mixed city in the world in my opinion i doubt you would find many mixed race children in the posh grammar schools. i mean two parents from different races means your kid is going to be a minority of a minority.

    anyway... all stuff to think about.
    Your overanalyzing and know it all attitude about black people is disgusting. Black people are not some bottom of the totem pole "sub-human" beings that you can analyse as a collection based on your anecdotal "evidence" which for all could be made up, it's the internet after all, but I won't go into that.

    I pity the "black" girl who has a relationship with you/ marries you in the future because you are a racist, but it is sad that you don't even know how prejudice you are.Your children could be like most mixed race children I know, who hate their "black" side of the family and would want to make their future generations less black, by being with people of other races. I am sorry to say that I find this occurrence in the children of most relationship with "black" men and "white" women, so your case is quite rare.

    I respect racist people because they do not sugar coat. A racist would body language would let you know that they don't like your "race". You on the other hand, have a covert attitude to racism. Even if you deny that you are not racist, you are prejudice and a bigot, and no, I am not calling you names, I am simply speaking on what I observe about you, from your posts on this thread.

    Oh, and shock horror, I am a black girl, my skin colour is like Kerry Washington, and I can't go out of my house without "white" boys and men alike hounding me, some even can't contain themselves e.g. they tell me I am beautiful, some stop their cars and shout to attract my attention and some look at me as if they are entranced or something. To be simply put, I get attention from mostly "white" and "asian" men than my own "race". You can choose to believe it or not, but it's true. And no, I am not fat or ugly, I have a petite frame.

    I cannot be bothered to do some "research" but there are members of the British royal family that married black women. One even married a yoruba Princess from ancient yoruba land royalty. Make if it what you may. Princess Angela of Liechtenstein is black american.

    You say you have all these "love" for black women, but your opinions shows that you want them to feel unattractive and devalued. Do make your mind up :lol: From my experience and that of my mum, we are not the "least attractive" women, my mum and I can barely leave the house without a man looking at us. An attractive "white" man stared in awe at me, even with my mum beside me. I sometimes get "anxiety" with all the attention I gather when I leave the house, I have to prepare myself before leaving out of my house.

    I really do not care about some "research" about black women being the least attractive out of al "races". I am an individual, not a collective, I really could care less. At the end of the day, it was a pseudo science research and it does not bother me at all. I know that I am attractive (not being conceited, so I have been told) I do not need the media to make me feel attractive. Who cares about being attractive, at the end of the day, we all shall grow old :lol:. No one would care then, why make beauty a priority now then? I find beauty vain because it is not longer lasting, like the saying "here to day, gone tomorrow" Also, if you married based on beauty, what could happen when the person you married "lost" their beauty through a scarring accident, I guess you would use the old chestnut "I feel out of love" which translates to people really do not fall in love, but more in lust. Show me a man that loves without caring about what society thinks, beauty, life changing accident or sickness like cancer, "loves" even in poverty etc, then I would agree that he was really in love. I for one, do not believe in "love" except the love of God (Jesus, because it is unconditional in contrast to the "fickle type love" of human beings). Human beings "fall in lust/ attraction" not "love
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    Maybe some people just like what they look like?
    or like what they are attracted to.
    I can actually see why black women and white men isnt the most common thing out there infact I know why
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    (Original post by Ambrosia_angel)
    There are certain things I dislike about this post. Firstly there are many black and mixed race people in grammar and private schools. Not as many as white but they are there. But white people will out number any ethnic minority.

    well no there are not many. if there were many they wouldn't be a minority means small or lesser meaning the opposite of many.

    i myself in the post let it be known that they existed but were "not many"

    and yes theres things in my post which highlight issues that i think are unfortunate. but if you dislike it and think its untrue let me know.

    (Original post by Ambrosia_angel)
    The senorio you mentioned can happen with any two races whether the man or women is black, white, Asian, Spanish and so on. Some families don't agree with interracial relationships or dating someone of a lower status class. This doesn't just apply to black women as there are some black women who are of a higher status class. You just don't see them that often because the UK has a tiny black community.
    yes i worded it specifically like that as to not single out black people. because i noticed the problem was the minority status.

    but black women of high status and class are quite rare in this country as this is a white country. largely most of the black immigrants to this country have been working class. you will struggle to find a rich black area in the uk. but if you know of one please let me know.

    yes they have a tiny black community. hence being a minority.

    (Original post by Ambrosia_angel)
    There are other things that I don't understand about this post either. Like you mention a middle class family but you continue as if the families are aristocrats. I wouldn't call middle call with one business rich for example. There are thousands of black people who live that lifestyle and are intelligent and send their children to university.
    you can own a business and be working class. hence my mention of middle class. a middle class business would be something like owning a drs practice or small law firm. or possibly estate agents.

    i have no doubt they exist.

    but in my experience its rare that they dont mix. if there is a parallel black event then yes. but i rarely see that in the uk. i see maybe events for the adults where they leave their kids back home. but not usually at their big suburban homes big enough to fit 3 transit vans in the kitchen alone where they leave the kids in one of the other living rooms. i've seen it in africa and america but not the uk. not to say it doesnt exist. but as i said it'll run parallel to white events of the same kind but rarely do the two circles mix in a fair ratio. often they'll have tokens from each others community

    but even sometimes the tokens. black or white. will be a mixed couple.
    like a rich black guy at a white event with a white girl. or a rich white guy with a black girl at a black event.

    i think maybe you've become a bit stung by my post.
    i never said black people were not intelligent didn't go to uni or hold similar events. but you stating the fact implies that i was somehow calling black people poor and stupid. which i was clearly not.

    (Original post by Ambrosia_angel)
    I'm the last anon BTW. Maybe anon number 8.
    Ok
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    (Original post by fojodef)
    well no there are not many. if there were many they wouldn't be a minority means small or lesser meaning the opposite of many.

    i myself in the post let it be known that they existed but were "not many"

    and yes theres things in my post which highlight issues that i think are unfortunate. but if you dislike it and think its untrue let me know.



    yes i worded it specifically like that as to not single out black people. because i noticed the problem was the minority status.

    but black women of high status and class are quite rare in this country as this is a white country. largely most of the black immigrants to this country have been working class. you will struggle to find a rich black area in the uk. but if you know of one please let me know.

    yes they have a tiny black community. hence being a minority.



    you can own a business and be working class. hence my mention of middle class. a middle class business would be something like owning a drs practice or small law firm. or possibly estate agents.

    i have no doubt they exist.

    but in my experience its rare that they dont mix. if there is a parallel black event then yes. but i rarely see that in the uk. i see maybe events for the adults where they leave their kids back home. but not usually at their big suburban homes big enough to fit 3 transit vans in the kitchen alone where they leave the kids in one of the other living rooms. i've seen it in africa and america but not the uk. not to say it doesnt exist. but as i said it'll run parallel to white events of the same kind but rarely do the two circles mix in a fair ratio. often they'll have tokens from each others community

    but even sometimes the tokens. black or white. will be a mixed couple.
    like a rich black guy at a white event with a white girl. or a rich white guy with a black girl at a black event.

    i think maybe you've become a bit stung by my post.
    i never said black people were not intelligent didn't go to uni or hold similar events. but you stating the fact implies that i was somehow calling black people poor and stupid. which i was clearly not.



    Ok
    I'm not stung tyvm.

    But your scenario suggested that a poor women will struggling with a white man. WELL DUH. They are of different social classes.

    But there are black women who own businesses which in your scenario, you ignore. You suggest that all black women in the are lower class than an affluent white man which you have no evidence of. You also suggest that a black women that have had a hard life won't encourage their man to move forward and you have no evidence of that. So what if she had a hard life. Its what you make of yourself.

    Black people and white people do mix. They mix as much as white and Asian people and Asian and black people. Stop stereotyping and generalising black and white relations when you have no evidence of this.
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    What you're all debating is inter-cultural dating. I guess it's easy for you guys to make the mistake since in Britain, race=culture to a large extent.
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    (Original post by TheAnusFiles)
    Busnisses can invest in what they want
    I could never have guessed that before you told me I am enlightened by your knowledge.
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    (Original post by Mancini)
    That would be rather unusual me not being a white guy I can only expect their response would be to laugh.
    Well in which case you aren't going to see it are you
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Oh, and shock horror, I am a black girl, my skin colour is like Kerry Washington, and I can't go out of my house without "white" boys and men alike hounding me, some even can't contain themselves e.g. they tell me I am beautiful, some stop their cars and shout to attract my attention and some look at me as if they are entranced or something. To be simply put, I get attention from mostly "white" and "asian" men than my own "race". You can choose to believe it or not, but it's true. And no, I am not fat or ugly, I have a petite frame.

    From my experience and that of my mum, we are not the "least attractive" women, my mum and I can barely leave the house without a man looking at us. An attractive "white" man stared in awe at me, even with my mum beside me. I sometimes get "anxiety" with all the attention I gather when I leave the house, I have to prepare myself before leaving out of my house.
    As much as I rate you for putting fojodef in his place, why do you feel the need to tell us your complexion and brag about the 'male attention' you receive?

    Why can't you just be content with it. To me, it just goes to show that you are yet another insecure black girl who receives self validation through others approval of your looks.
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    (Original post by CryptoidAlien)
    I think black girls are the least attractive. Not just on looks, but their personality's, which I find to be quite ugly/inappropriate at times.
    If that's not a generalisation I don't know what is.
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    (sighs) I new people were gonna read that post as a personal attack. i havent even read all of this im just gonna reply to each paragraph cause

    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Your overanalyzing and know it all attitude about black people is disgusting. Black people are not some bottom of the totem pole "sub-human" beings that you can analyse as a collection based on your anecdotal "evidence" which for all could be made up, it's the internet after all, but I won't go into that.
    i have that attitude towards all things. not just black people dont worry its even. its unfortunate that its disgusting to you. that wasnt my intention. funnily enough though in my post i didnt really mention black people that much. i just mentioned the issues with a minority mixing with a successful native majority. which could of been applicable to races other than black.

    pleas show me in the post where i illustrated black people were at the bottom of the totem pole. please also show me where i tried to make black people out to be sub-human.

    you havent pointed out any part that you think is wrong enough to challange though. you just seem to not like it and accuse me of having an agenda against black people.

    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I pity the "black" girl who has a relationship with you/ marries you in the future because you are a racist, but it is sad that you don't even know how prejudice you are.Your children could be like most mixed race children I know, who hate their "black" side of the family and would want to make their future generations less black, by being with people of other races. I am sorry to say that I find this occurrence in the children of most relationship with "black" men and "white" women, so your case is quite rare.
    i see. you've claimed i've done a lot and claim im racist but have not highlighted any specific quote and explained why its racist. if theres so many it should be easy to pick one. and if theres one maybe you can just pick that one quote?

    again. reference a prejudice quote of mine.

    you do realise the irony here? you've accused me of being racist and prejudice but you've just claimed most mixed race people hate the black side of their family. oh and that most mixed race people also apparently want to make their families less black. whos being a know it all know huh?

    hang on? my case is quite rare? you mean the case i made that its difficult for parents to relate to their mixed race children? yes i mentioned a minority women because its a thread asking guys about their thoughts on different races of women. my argument would still apply to a black man white women. or a chinese man indian women. doesnt matter. the point still applies.


    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I respect racist people because they do not sugar coat. A racist would body language would let you know that they don't like your "race". You on the other hand, have a covert attitude to racism. Even if you deny that you are not racist, you are prejudice and a bigot, and no, I am not calling you names, I am simply speaking on what I observe about you, from your posts on this thread.
    well you called me racist in the above post so i guess this is you saying you respect me now. oh wait no i have covert racism... great. yea you allready said i was prejudice, but bigot is new. this is kinda rich coming from the girl who just accused the majority of mixed race people of hating black people.

    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Oh, and shock horror, I am a black girl, my skin colour is like Kerry Washington, and I can't go out of my house without "white" boys and men alike hounding me, some even can't contain themselves e.g. they tell me I am beautiful, some stop their cars and shout to attract my attention and some look at me as if they are entranced or something. To be simply put, I get attention from mostly "white" and "asian" men than my own "race". You can choose to believe it or not, but it's true. And no, I am not fat or ugly, I have a petite frame.
    sounds like they see you as a whore tbh. hounding. stopping their cars? what for you to get in? you do realise this isnt treatment to boast about right? its actually very disrespectful. you do... no that... right?:confused: same skin colour as kerry washington let me google that. ah... i see. i suspect light skin superiority complex no? light enough to be mix race? explains your attitude towards them. do you actually commonly pass for black givin such a light complexion. i mean kerry washington could pass as like... latino or some mix.

    ok but i dont see what any of this has to do with my post. this just seems like you bragging about how pretty you think you are and how lots of men harass you on the street.

    just letting you know. classy women rarely get treated by men like that. because the guys don't think they have a chance. plus if you mean classy as in rich? they usually have cars. or chauffeurs. specifically to avoid such unpleasantness with the common rabble.

    but im guessing this little boasting session here is from insecurity considering its random out of place intermission.

    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I cannot be bothered to do some "research" but there are members of the British royal family that married black women. One even married a yoruba Princess from ancient yoruba land royalty. Make if it what you may. Princess Angela of Liechtenstein is black american.
    ok. thats cool.
    im guessing that youve mistook my points about the issues of majority+minority or even minority+minority dating as some sort of attack on black people. perhaps you think i was saying they are all poor and cannot be rich like whites or something. which either theres something hidden amongst my writing that i was unaware of or you simply got the wrong end of the stick. anyway. i say guessing cause other wise i dont know why your showing this to me like hahaha evidence of mixed race couples i high society. i never said it couldnt be done i said it was unpopular. also i did some "research" and wiki'd Princess Angela of Liechtenstein and it says "She is the first person of known African origin to marry a member of a reigning European dynasty." so still kinda rare. but i think you've aimed a bit far with royalty there on that one. im sure theres lots more black people in the general aristocracy and general rich upper echelons of society than there is european royalty.


    (Original post by Anonymous)
    You say you have all these "love" for black women, but your opinions shows that you want them to feel unattractive and devalued.
    i see. would you mind backing that up with a quote?

    cause at the moment your opinion on me as even less legitimate than your opinion on the majority of mixed race people hating their black side and wanting to dilute the blackness out their future progeny.

    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Do make your mind up :lol: From my experience and that of my mum, we are not the "least attractive" women, my mum and I can barely leave the house without a man looking at us. An attractive "white" man stared in awe at me, even with my mum beside me. I sometimes get "anxiety" with all the attention I gather when I leave the house, I have to prepare myself before leaving out of my house.
    make up my mind on what? do you not know how to quote?
    i never said you were the least attractive women... i think you've mixed me up with someone else and attributed their views to me for some reason.

    i see... more of this stuff again. think i've covered enough on that.

    NEXT PARAGRAPH! and its a big one so im gonna have to chop it up.

    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I really do not care about some "research" about black women being the least attractive out of al "races".
    ok now i KNOW your getting me confused with someone else

    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I am an individual, not a collective, I really could care less. At the end of the day, it was a pseudo science research and it does not bother me at all.
    im guessing your talking about Satoshi Kanazawa the racist LSE professor who got suspended.

    yea i agree with you on this one. guess this is continuing with the misquote theme


    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I know that I am attractive (not being conceited, so I have been told)
    I'm in no doubt you are conceited from your above posts. but it seems to be a rebound from insecurity.

    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I do not need the media to make me feel attractive.
    thats good.

    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Who cares about being attractive, at the end of the day, we all shall grow old :lol:.
    pretty much everyone.
    check your privilege <joke btw)

    (Original post by Anonymous)
    No one would care then, why make beauty a priority now then? I find beauty vain because it is not longer lasting, like the saying "here to day, gone tomorrow"
    to be fair you've made it quite obvious how much you revel in male attention and you've done quite a bit of boasting. so this bit all seems a bit beauty pageant "if only the world was nicer" insincere type of dialog.

    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Also, if you married based on beauty, what could happen when the person you married "lost" their beauty through a scarring accident, I guess you would use the old chestnut "I feel out of love" which translates to people really do not fall in love, but more in lust. Show me a man that loves without caring about what society thinks, beauty, life changing accident or sickness like cancer, "loves" even in poverty etc, then I would agree that he was really in love. I for one, do not believe in "love" except the love of God (Jesus, because it is unconditional in contrast to the "fickle type love" of human beings). Human beings "fall in lust/ attraction" not "love
    i kinda agree. the word love is derived from the latin for "desire" anyway. so love in its original meaning means desire. which kinda changes all the stigma attached to it.

    anyway not sure what was going on here. seems like you misquoted me with other people quite a bit.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I understand what you are saying but why are all black people one community? If it turned out that it was only white people who ate at chinese restaurants would you tell them to go to a british pub and help their communities?

    You sound like we are depriving these black women of a goat to feed their families and that a tribe may not have enough money to buy seeds for their farm land if we don't 'support' them. Im pretty sure we are talking about the western world and many africans and carribeann have been here for 3 generations or since WW2.

    if anything I would say there is too much black separatism.
    i have been ushered to the front of cues and had nods of approval from random black people because we are the same colour. wtf.
    No I would not have to say such a thing to a Chinese person they pretty much do it anyway they are smart enough to invest in themselves when China invests in a 3rd world nation they make sure they said their own workers who take their money back home to China you see.

    I wish I could see this black separatism that you claim to see personally I don't and that incident of you being ushered to the front of the cue is a pretty small example which reall does not affect society much I don't even think it was worth mentioning.

    No you are not depriving black women and I certainly am not giving any money to these largely non black owned hair companies, you black women claim that these hair businesses are largely owned by black businesses which is untrue. I believe in the USA at least its largely owned by the Koreans.

    ''Approximately 9,800 BEAUTY SUPPLY businesses exist nationwide; but only a little more than 300 are black-owned, Naturallymoi reports.''

    ''According to the article, Korean-American ENTREPRENEURS control all major components of the beauty supply business. There are four central distributors serving a large portion of the beauty supply stores in the country, all Korean-owned. These distributors only work with other Koreans in order to dominate the market.''

    ''For almost 50 years, the Korean-American community has dominated the black BEAUTY SUPPLY market by opening large stores, buying out smaller black-owned ones and using the faces of black celebrities on their products and black employees in their stores to grow their businesses in the black community.''

    I mean just look at those quotes you can't make this stuff up I am not 100% about the British industry but I doubt its black owned I will look into it and get back to you on that.

    However you black females here want to chat like its a non issue like I said you do not care about your community your hair is more important.

    Check the link below for the full article


    http://www.blackenterprise.com/small...ng-blacks-out/
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Also, Im pretty sure that most people who sell hair and are hair dressers are black. Obviously there are exceptions but black hairdressers are always high in demand.
    They are more than exceptions, you're talking about hair dressers I am talking about large companies which supply your weave which your hair dressers probably buy from which are not black owned.

    Also I have no idea why you have chosen to go anonymous on this thread do you really need to hide yourself here? Is the issue so bad you don't want to be seen commenting on it?
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    (Original post by Sopheea)
    First of, I'm not even planing of getting married,
    I think dating is overrated,
    and my life goal at leaf rn is to achieve peace everywhere or at least within me.

    You don't know who i am, you have never met me or had a conversation with me so what ever you think about me is irrelevant.

    Im not the kind of person to change just cause its what some guys, my parents/family or what society needs me to do alright. Thats not me.

    Ill bet you haven't even read half my answers on this thread so keep your judgements to yourself.

    If you're so offended by this post why did you even leave a comment, i make it a point to avoid things that annoy me and i advice you do the same.
    My third question is personal because i am black, I'm i was asian/white it would still be the same but in relation to the race, you know why because if you wanna fix a problem you start from the the bit you know hence people that are black because i am black.

    I am no self hating teen or racial supremacist i am a human being, and i am tired of human beings hating each other because or petty differences.

    How else do you expect me to help in cleaning up a mess when i know nothing about it. Its disgusting that people just always want to see the bad side in everything a person does.

    If I've said bull**** I'm sorry, but you've really pissed me off, looking for other motives in something as simple as a survey for the sake of understanding people
    How will a girl who needs an external source to uplift her ever achieve internal peace?

    No I don't know who you are nor have I met you I have read your initial post though and that was what my response was based on. Do ever try and think logically? Do you think I just pulled a random response out of a hat?

    I think you are exactly that type of girl you describe based on these white guys comments you probably will change yourself to appeal to them more.

    I don't need to read half your answers nor respond to them I respond to the lines that grab my attention.

    I am not offended by the post at all I just wonder how the mods let it slip by when half the same posts on this subject based on black female attraction and how people perceive black girls end up banned because a bunch of commentators either assume its a troll or some black girl claims racism. Yet because you are a black girl you can create the same type of thread and pretend its about trying to understand other people.

    This type of thread is not nothing new, its quite boring and done before I usually just skip these threads, only reason I commented on this was because this thread was started by a black girl from the same group who would complain if someone else opened such a thread commenting on black girls appearance or behaviour.

    You certainly ain't no supremacist however I do think you are self hating.
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    (Original post by Sopheea)
    You sound like a child,

    Most Black people are too racially aware, and i stick to this statement, they are too hostile and i stick to this statement.

    Why? Because i grew up in a community of people always blaming another race for their issues other than themselves.

    Its like a typical broken home of a rich family. your kids are doing drugs and instead of letting them own up to their mistakes you blame the friends they hang with, which may be the case, but friends can only influence that child so much, the rest is on them.

    My mom's mom would tell me to wary of the white people, the white people are crazy, they do drugs, they kill, and when i point out blacks do the same shed say something as daft as, its the white peoples fault they put the blacks in a tough spot.

    The whites that i know didnt grow up with their parents telling them to treat blacks as inferior, but most blacks i know and i have read about, or seen in movies are raised to exculed anyone that isn't black and dim any none complimenting statement as a racist one.


    Do you really believe that every black man in jail was put there because they did not commit a crime and the cops are racist.

    I have many black friends that treat each other like ****, but have witnessed so many times when a white girl so much as muttered a bad word, she was being racist.

    Yes there are racist whites

    But news flash there are black racist, chinese racist, japanese, german, italian.

    All I'm saying is if blacks really want to fight racism excluding other races, and criticizing them isn't going to do ****, thats what almost destroyed the civil rights movement for the blacks in the USA.

    Instead of hating on people because you assume they are racist why not i don't know be different, be friendly, be less, cruel.

    Thats all I'm saying, i don't know the white culture as well as the black culture, and I'm just trying to see what the non blacks know about the black culture. If they are wrong i correct them, its their choice to take the correction i can't make them love all blacks.

    I have ever met a racist white, I've met some big on stereotypes but none that wanted to exclude me because i wasn't white.

    I don't see culture i see personalities and if your sucks which so far you have shown me, then i really don't want to know you.
    I don't even understand the aim of this post I can assume you are trying to take the thread in a different direction. Your initial post was not about the black community as a whole it was simply about you finding out what caucasian guys thought about black women and why some do not find you attractive. This black separatist issue was not even mentioned in the initial post but you are using it here to pretend this was initialy about learning about the black people and how people viewed us you can't fool me.

    Why are you asking me about black men in jail what exactly has this got to do with me or your initial post? You see what I mean you are attempting to change the reasons you started this whole thread, no where have I even discussed black men in jail I simply stated I have never met a black separatist.

    You come from the USA though a total different culture perhaps you have met more of these sorts of people, however, this does not change the fact that this thread has nothing to do with learning about the way people view the wider black community instead its simply about learning how caucasian males view the black female.

    Look back at your initial post the only people you specifically mention are black females and Caucasian males so I have every right to question your motivations. Learn to stick to the subject instead of taking the conversation on a different tangent in order to attempt to paint a better picture of yourself.

    The fact you mention specifically those two groups black female and Caucasian male tells me that your only aim is to reach a greater understanding between the two therefor excluding everyone else. Which is fine if its made clear but pretending this is about a greater understanding of society as whole won't work with me nor anyone else who can see where you really are coming from. Perhaps you have to learn how to make unbiased questions in future if you truly are aiming to learn about everyone as a whole which I doubt. Also I think that article/research you read about Caucasian males not being attracted to black females had a bigger affect on you than you think.
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    1) I don't really have a race preference, I love culture. But... I think I'm more likely to date a guy who has an interesting cultural background, rather than one what doesn't.

    2) Again I have no preferences therefore I have no "least favoured".

    3) Sometimes I think some black girls can come across as quite strong and sassy. I don't find it a negative thing, but a good thing if it's being used in the correct terms. In general I don't really have an opinion of black girls, it all depends on the individual.

    4) I would have no idea. I'm 1/2 black (if that counts) and I get approached mostly by white guys, so I wouldn't say that's 100% correct. I think it's just a preference thing and what the individual finds attractive or not.
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    (Original post by Ambrosia_angel)
    I'm not stung tyvm.

    But your scenario suggested that a poor women will struggling with a white man. WELL DUH. They are of different social classes.
    my first point was class plays a role.
    my second was regardless even if they were from the same level of education affluence and success that race due to being a minority would still be an issue.

    (Original post by Ambrosia_angel)
    But there are black women who own businesses which in your scenario, you ignore. You suggest that all black women in the are lower class than an affluent white man which you have no evidence of. You also suggest that a black women that have had a hard life won't encourage their man to move forward and you have no evidence of that. So what if she had a hard life. Its what you make of yourself.
    there are no black women who own businesses in my scenario? i think you dont seem to get the i was trying to make. as much as you have taken this stance where i hate black women. its out of nowhere. and my point was about minorities which may or may not include black women and the problems with those minorities dating majorities regardless of their affluence. but. thats not gonna stop you from turning this into some cheap "you hate black women cause you said stuff i don't really comprehend. and im not used to those arguments so im gonna try and reduce the argument back so a sort of racist white guy tryna attack black women vs the world scenario"

    anyway

    ok so the reason im mentioning affluence is because as i mentioned in the post. non affluent people rarely tend to manage their families in the same way. therefore their partner selection is different. ok so now we've established why i've picked affluent backgrounds. because they profile on benefit & social status rather than love & beauty when it comes marriage.

    ok so why white? well the OP kinda gave a nod that she wanted white guys opinions on black girls. i think alot of people have agreed on that already.

    so putting it from a white perspective kinda fits inline with the OP topic.

    secondly (not in order of importance) my point for picking white is to do with them being the majority in this country. both in working and middle class areas.

    i mentioned black women at the very start of my post claiming that my post was inspired by what i had scene middle classy white guys say in their posts on here. and their comments made me think. i dont agree with their points. but their points acted as stimulus for what i wrote.

    so my point was about men from those backgrounds dating minorities.
    notice after my opening i do not mention black women again? my point was to make it apply to all minorities. which is what i believed the issue to be about. which in YOUR earlier post you said it applies to all minorities thus confirming that i did a good job. but with you it was just another thing to complain about. what did yo want me to pick on black women and **** them off?

    (Original post by Ambrosia_angel)
    You suggest that all black women in the are lower class than an affluent white man which you have no evidence of.
    no i dont thats just a lie. i never suggested ALL black women. infact anyone that looks my posts can see i've gone out of my way to use language that allows for exceptions.

    and where abouts was i suppose to be suggesting that?

    do you mean where i asked you to tell me about a rich black area in the uk? which clearly you couldnt do.

    but yet your gonna think im making that statement because i wot... hate black people yea? or look down on them?

    but wait. i didnt blame the issue of black people being largely working class in the uk on their race. i didnt blame it on any sort of racially linked inability. which i know is disappointing to you since you want to argue with a racist because its easy to do. infact i went out of my way to mention the logistics of immigration. most of the black people here are working class. because its mostly working class black people that immigrated here.

    but wait. ive just said black people are working class not because race. so am i taking institutional and hegemony out of the equation? oh not thats racist to do as well. i cant win. arguing with people like you (sit down, i dont mean black) there is literally no meeting me half way and an active engagement and no bias in trying to understand the point im making. no. this is merely. THE INQUISITION. where i am charged with racism. regardless of what i have to say. and i must constantly try to cover all angles of all agendas like a lunatic with his ass on fire.

    oh but now what. am i pulling on white guilt victim hood.
    pffft. theres a response for everything. but uno wot. it leads to later point



    (Original post by Ambrosia_angel)
    You also suggest that a black women that have had a hard life won't encourage their man to move forward and you have no evidence of that. So what if she had a hard life. Its what you make of yourself.
    do you see how difficult this conversation was? how you've either consciously or unconsciously taken things i've said the wrong way. and sensationalised them and edited them and reframed them and strategically forgotten or left bits out to suit your vs dynamic? i've seen and been in many of these arguments before. a common finale is "you wouldnt understand and you will never understand how it is to be (insert minority here. or black if you think im somehow excluding black women by saying minority. a complaint you made earlier remember.)"

    guess what. only a problem faced when dating a minority. not understanding them. but you could understand a person of your own race much more. you would never have those argument gag stopping finale crunchers like you wouldnt get it your black/chinese/mongolian what ever.
    maybe you'd get the you dont get how it is to be a women. but thats a problem all men face regardless of their race or if they date outside their race or not. well its a problem all men face except gay men. i dont want them to start gunning for me now aswell. christ.

    no i didnt say black women had a hard life. i said minorities had a hard time. if you got a rich white women and a rich black women of equal status and standing in the uk. no one would dare say the white women had a harder time. thats where this whole check your privilege comes from.
    you could be white, male, straight. but grew up in care, had a hard life, was abused, molested by family members, tortured all that kind of stuff. but you know what. the white patriarchy is in his favour. so f*ck him. right? awesome.

    well considering how your entire stance during this argument was as a victimatic defence from my racist assault, you can see why i'd think rather than ever caring about your partner moving forward. youd be more concerned about yourself and how your getting the worse end of the bargain.

    now thats not all black women. thats you. just for the record. and i can say that because i've used this entire discussion or argument between me and u as an example.

    but its the kind of thing that i imagine would crop up in a conversation during a long term relationship.

    with different ideas of privilege and what not.

    (Original post by Ambrosia_angel)
    Black people and white people do mix.
    (sigh) i never said they didnt.
    please. try and quote me fairly. i know its hard but it makes your arguments seem more honest. when you quote me correctly and are not constantly tweaking stuff to make my point more extreme along the way

    my point was that mixing is RARE in rich white dinner party culture. not non existent

    (Original post by Ambrosia_angel)
    They mix as much as white and Asian people and Asian and black people.
    again. i didnt make any point. about black people. mixing with whites as much. as little. or more. than any other ethnic group.

    (Original post by Ambrosia_angel)
    Stop stereotyping and generalising black and white relations when you have no evidence of this.
    sorry but wheres your f*cking evidence for your claims? go on. find me the photo of the 50/50 dinner party with black and white rich people in the uk.

    where... where was the stereotype of black people. find it. you lier. lol

    oh and well done on your generalisations used to counter mine.

    guess what with race. unless its an academic study. in just a normal convo. there are generalisations. cause guess what... we're speaking GENERALLY

    not to a degree of forensic ethnographic methodology. its a forum and a discussion in a thread. you expect too much.
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    (Original post by Sopheea)
    Lol you're clearly not here to do nothing but try (and fail) to make me look like a bad guy, with a low self esteem. Don't project your personality on me, if you really had an argument to oppose mine (which is obviously what i am here for, you would have replied my last thread first (if you even have a reply) or at least you would have given a more decent argument that calling me a child with a weak self esteem.

    Im sorry if my truth hurts, but there are some people who actually give a damn about the world as a whole, and want to better it. As far as your self esteem accusation, you would not be the first to think so, or the last, it doesn't mean you're right.

    Btw i have had a conversation on this matter with about four people on this thread with reasonable arguments and none of em has tried name calling or averting the issue, it speaks a lot for their personality and maturity.
    Ill bet if you and i were face to face you would be yelling and screaming your head of instead of bettering your argument.
    Good bye, and quit wasting my time
    What truth hurts, what exactly are you talking about? This is a typical line black girls like to write half the time it means nothing its just a silly overused defence mechanism.

    You painted yourself as the bad guy you painted yourself into a corner by specifically pointing out black females and Caucasian males in your initial post it has nothing to do with me. I am just pointing it out to the easily led.

    As I have mentioned before I have no problem with black females and Caucasian males getting on better and dating whatever suits you just don't pretend this thread is about understanding society a whole because its not. Its about communicating with white guys in order to understand why some of them may not be attracted to you and in turn you will probably change yourself to appeal more to them as I said before you are here to increase your self worth because you are person of low self esteem.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    What people also fail to understand is... imagine this senario:

    You like a guy
    he happens to be white

    he doesn't like you
    you accept it because you know not everyone will like you.

    You find out that he only doesn't like you because of your colour

    you are badly affected and maybe want to find out if other men are the same or not as you haven't had much relationship experience .
    You really think you need extensive research to find out that some people may not like you because of your skin colour ? lol

    Also what is with black females and their obsession with the physical? Most men could easily not want to be with you due to you not having a great personality.

    When you put all your energy on how you look I can see why so many of you suffer from low self esteem.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I'd also like to add a bit to the topic of white men with black women. If you like white men then there are ones that like black women. To be honest so many black men have issues with black women's beauty that they only date white women. A lot of black women have been indirectly forced to to go with white men. Sad but true. Black women are the least likely to be in a relationship with anyone. But we are also less likely to seek men of other races as oppose to white and Asian women. So black men not considering black women and black women not considering other races means low partnership statistics in black females.

    Personally I wouldn't care if white or black men dont like your skin colour. If you find the one person that does then you won't hair. Don't like a few men in your study put you of. Love has not colour.
    Once again you think or assume these black men have a problem with the way you look, have you tried to look at your attitude your personality? You do know its another factor when it comes to a relationship?

    Yes men are attracted to the physical when it comes to women but we can also look beyond that and usually do, cause no relationship succeeds simply based on looks.
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    I'm completely indifferent to race, and have no overriding preference that I'm aware of. That being said, it's exceedingly rare to encounter anyone non-white whose culture or belief-system wouldn't effectively preclude them from dating me.
 
 
 
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