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    What a tragedy for her kids and husband.

    There have been people linking it to Syria.

    There have been people linking it to Britain First

    Its going to be pretty sick if these turn out to be untrue and its just someone trying to take advantage of the situation. People should wait until there is an investigation and the police or repitable news organisations get to verify the facts of the story.
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    Let's assume he's a Britain First supporter. Given, as far as anyone can tell, he acted alone, what difference does it make?

    I entirely do not understand why seemingly everyone is so exercised by this argument. Whether driven by mental illness, or political belief, or, as I think is most likely, a mixture the two, we shouldn't attach too much wider significance to the deranged actions of a lone gunman.
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    (Original post by nutcase13)
    A witness said he shouted britain first
    Another witness said he didn't
    And you jump to the conclusion that he did? Why not wait until the information is out, why spread rumours that you can't back up? Btw im in no way a supporter of far right groups, quite the opposite actually, i just find it funny how you assume because twitter said so it must be 100% true
    Thank you
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    (Original post by democracyforum)
    They don't represent Islam

    A minority of Muslims do this type of thing

    Mental illness is to blame

    We need more gun control

    Islam ? What's that ? never heard of it.
    Its neither of those things ,keep the muslim bashing for another time.
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    (Original post by J_C_)
    The nationalism part is the overriding principle, that's the logic that started WW2. It's fairly unequivocally associated with the right wing. That's not a condemnation of the right wing in general, since the political spectrum system encompasses a wide range of ideals, and groups them as "wing" generally based on correlation. Saying that right wing ideology is overtly bad is facile, but it does seem to have contributed to more violence in recent history that the ideals we'd normally think of as "left wing".
    So what about Corbyn? He's a nationalist and a socialist...
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    Statement from her husband.
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    Too much internet for one day.. we should have a clearer picture tomorrow
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    (Original post by Thutmose-III)
    I know it's a conspiracy as surely as I know unicorns don't exist. 99.9% of conspiracy theories are false. But even leaving that aside, as the other user referred to it's ludicrous to start shrieking about conspiracies before we actually really know anything
    Bloody hell you mean we neednt have wasted all that time looking for a link to ISIS in all the recent attacks?
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    Yeh. I mean....it is not as if there is other evidence..

    ......
    In a blog post at the far right Springbok Cyber Newsletter’s website, Mair is described as “one of the earliest subscribers and supporters of “S.A. Patriot.” On the magazine’s website, it’s described as being pro-free market capitalism and patriotism and anti-political correctness and “expansionist Islam.”.....


    Sounds like he would fit in most of the Nationalists on here.
    Sounds like a reasonable magazine to be honest. Once again, this is pretty sketchy evidence to base your assumptions of. I'm not denying he could be a member of Britain First or is a nationalist. I'm just saying it's very unclear at the minute.
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    Maybe the fact that they weren't there is what makes it unreliable.
    I think Mr Graeme Howard would disagree

    " Graeme Howard, 38, who lives in nearby Bond Street, told the Guardian he heard the man shout “Britain first” before the shooting and during the arrest.

    “I heard the shot and I ran outside and saw some ladies from the cafe running out with towels,” he said. “There was loads of screaming and shouting and the police officers showed up.

    “He was shouting ‘Britain first’ when he was doing it and being arrested. He was pinned down by two police officers and she was taken away in an ambulance.” "
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    You are confusing extreme ignorance with mental illness and ironically are being extremely ignorant
    Don't be stupid. Hitler was NOT an extremely ignorant man. He was very wise. Far wiser than you and I no doubt.
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    (Original post by otester)
    So what about Corbyn? He's a nationalist and a socialist...
    What is your definition of "nationalist" that Corbyn fits into?
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    It's a shame but why is an mp any more important than an ordinary member of the public?
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    I think Mr Graeme Howard would disagree

    " Graeme Howard, 38, who lives in nearby Bond Street, told the Guardian he heard the man shout “Britain first” before the shooting and during the arrest.

    “I heard the shot and I ran outside and saw some ladies from the cafe running out with towels,” he said. “There was loads of screaming and shouting and the police officers showed up.

    “He was shouting ‘Britain first’ when he was doing it and being arrested. He was pinned down by two police officers and she was taken away in an ambulance.” "
    That is a quote that it would be better to rely upon than someone who says they weren't there.

    Now you have to deal with conflicting reports from witnesses.
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    (Original post by Betelgeuse-)
    Too much internet for one day.. we should have a clearer picture tomorrow
    Makes a change eh
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    (Original post by neal95)
    It's a shame but why is an mp any more important than an ordinary member of the public?
    I was thinking the very same, I don't see the same public outcry when your average joe gets shot. You certainly don't get the Arch Bishop tweeting about you.
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    (Original post by neal95)
    It's a shame but why is an mp any more important than an ordinary member of the public?
    They aren't, i think people just never expected such an atrocity could happen to an mp hence why all the shock
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    I think Mr Graeme Howard would disagree

    " Graeme Howard, 38, who lives in nearby Bond Street, told the Guardian he heard the man shout “Britain first” before the shooting and during the arrest.

    “I heard the shot and I ran outside and saw some ladies from the cafe running out with towels,” he said. “There was loads of screaming and shouting and the police officers showed up.

    “He was shouting ‘Britain first’ when he was doing it and being arrested. He was pinned down by two police officers and she was taken away in an ambulance.” "
    How did he see both the attack and the arrest when he was arrested two miles away?
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    In times like this, it's important to remember not to make assumptions or rely on hearsay to form an opinion. Let's wait until we know more. This is a very sad day indeed, regardless of one's political views. I think we can all agree with that.
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    3 people confirmed that the man did infact shout "Britain First"

    The man was a White terrorist.
 
 
 
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