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    (Original post by PrincessZara)
    We are all gonna suffer now because Becky with her 1 GCSE thinks an immigrant with a medical degree is going to steal her job. #DamnBecky

    Congratulations Britain, you played yourself...Nobody over 65 should be allowed to vote, cause it's not their future.

    The thing you really need to understand is that Brexit was the best decision this countries electorate has ever made. We can still take skilled migrants based on our Visa system, this can be based on our needs and gaps in our work force. What the "leave" voters voted based on was closing our borders, seriously having unskilled immigration of 150,000 from the European union is not a great idea, yes they may pay their taxes, earn their money and not claim of the dole but that is not the point. It is about time England put there own people first. Total immigration was 330,000- We would need to build a home every 4 minutes morning, noon and night- If you ask me that is totally unreasonable because

    A. we will run out of space to build on
    B We can't carry on like this, resources such as land to build on are finite

    I am 19 years of age and I voted to leave the European Union, if people actually did there research the only thing it impacts is our exports, yes they may decrease if tarrifs are put on them as a business point a view , but Germany, Holland, USA and some other European countries already want to do a deal with us- leaving has done us a favour in the long term we will have the best of both worlds, closed borders and access to the single market without any calls of changing currency to the Euro. The short term impact may make the pound worth less and make our (the consumers) spending power less but in 10 years time when you have a decent paying job because we have controlled migration you will thank us, this is because the wage demands of europeans are much less than ours. I live in Stone Cross their is a big chicken Factory where there is over 1,000 polish workers, it has been rumored many of them are being paid cash in hand £3 a hour and are put on day release to attend their job centre meetings an English worker would have to be paid £7.20 (if over 25 if not NMW).

    To answer your question about Becky, she is in a very bad position- she messed up her own education but I am a very patriotic man i would hire a trier with one GCSE over a foreigner if i had no skills gaps to fill in terms of specialist knowledge. Also it will force the Government to offer more incentives for the British people to go into Medics instead of doing the easy thing and importing them, if you think about it we could invest some of the £35 million pound a day of fees into incentives to improve the education of our citizens, we could bring a lot of low earners out of tax and reduce the tax burden of companies so they have more money, can expand and create jobs- think about it. But I guess you would rather remain and give unelected bureaucrats in Brussels even more powers, you pretty much asking for a democratic dictatorship

    You say Over 65's should not be able to vote, I guess you want to allow 16 year olds to vote- not only this propostion is wrong because at 16 you have no life experiences it is also age discrimination. It is capped at 18 because very few people understand politics at that age, I still struggle. 16 and under would not turn up or cross a random box which makes electoral fraud a lot easier. You have been whipped into overdrive by a scaremonger and **** your pants campaign what Remain delivered everything from WW3 to no european country will trade with us, I said before the vote Germany sells over 500,000 cars a year here in the UK, if they close the door on us think of the unsold stock and profit hits they would have, the German government are interested in this because of the tax which is paid , and are already willing to do a deal with us

    Also have you read an EU treaty, I'm guessing not. They are trying to enforce things on member states such as joining the Euro
    Article 3 of the Lisbon Treaty states
    "The Union shall establish an economic and monetary union whose currency is theeuro."
    How democratic enforcing the Euro on every nation, we managed to Reject it because the pound is worth more than the Euro- which is a doomed project because the more economically developed countries are richer than the less economically developed countries meaning if they share the same currency the poorer countries will be pushed into poverty because the Euro is worth more than there currency so they get less money and the rate of inflation in the EU will determine the prices paid by the consumer. Did you know the EU imposed VAT on us, and a green tax on our industries so we had less exports than what we would had with out the green tax, the impact this had was that a lot of our steelworks, had to pay more to produce and export our goods, this means that the demand would be less for our products and the effect this had was it killed manufacturing in the 1980's and over a million people in mining and steel lost there jobs
    I think I will leave it there, I look forward to your response, and will debate further then

    http://order-order.com/2016/03/30/eu...teel-industry/
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...erre-moscovici
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    (Original post by Themini)
    Maybe you should spend less time raging and more time reading. At no point did I say that a weak currency shows poor economic performance. I said, a crashing currency shows poor economic performance. There's a lot of uncertainty and a lot of people are pulling the strings behind close doors to prepare the move elsewhere in the event of catastrophic failure.

    As for your point on German cars, the Germans and the French are the ones telling us to get out quick, because we made the choice to leave and not keep things in limbo till October before the leaving proceedings are supposed to officially begin ( within 2 years of the date).

    As for your third point...You still don't get it. WE DONT MAKE ANYTHING. How are exports going to rise if we don't make any domestic products? All the products we make here are thanks to foreign firms who have outsourced to Britain.

    -We make very little that we can call our own should our MNCS decide to bail out.
    Of what we do make its highly specialised and expensive...i.e. military vehicles, industrial machinery (diggers etc) so how is that going to increase exports?? The US supplies the same stuff to Canda and its own markets at a far lower price. There has to be specific demand in place for our home grown products, there are a lot of factors to consider, it all depends on our trade deal and I agree, the EU will make an example of us.
    Lady, it seems you are raging here, It is very simple.WEAK CURRENCY=EXPORT DEMAND=INCREASE IN EXPORTS TO MEET DEMAND=JOBS,JOBS,AND HIGHER GDP.
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    (Original post by James David)
    Lady, it seems you are raging here, It is very simple.WEAK CURRENCY=EXPORT DEMAND=INCREASE IN EXPORTS TO MEET DEMAND=JOBS,JOBS,AND HIGHER GDP.
    The currency will go back up and the Germans do not want to get rid of us because we purchase 500,000 cars from Germany (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/133798...e-with-the-eu/) Read article in brackets. Little Britain will show europe up with ease like it did pre 1970's the dead kiddy fiddler ted heath forced us in and our export market was killed we need to export more. What happens if we can't import we need to be self sufficent and we can set tariffs for EU exports to here at 30-40% to force them to lose jobs in EU and they are in a weaker currency then us, A few nations already want a referendum in the EU if more than 5 leave they will end the European union and go back to the 1950's what has europe given us other than immigrants
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    (Original post by NerradCFCB)
    The currency will go back up and the Germans do not want to get rid of us because we purchase 500,000 cars from Germany (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/133798...e-with-the-eu/) Read article in brackets. Little Britain will show europe up with ease like it did pre 1970's the dead kiddy fiddler ted heath forced us in and our export market was killed we need to export more. What happens if we can't import we need to be self sufficent and we can set tariffs for EU exports to here at 30-40% to force them to lose jobs in EU and they are in a weaker currency then us, A few nations already want a referendum in the EU if more than 5 leave they will end the European union and go back to the 1950's what has europe given us other than immigrants
    I think you're the only person on this thread, nay this forum that sees logically.The rise of the pound is beginning already
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    (Original post by James David)
    Lady, it seems you are raging here, It is very simple.WEAK CURRENCY=EXPORT DEMAND=INCREASE IN EXPORTS TO MEET DEMAND=JOBS,JOBS,AND HIGHER GDP.
    Lol did you want to carry on with your text book drivel?

    What part of we don't make anything do you still not get? The currency is today 31 years behind what it was against the dollar. If MNCS leave = not that many exports. We don't have our own domestic industries to make up the shortfall in revenue = mass unemployment, hysteria and systematic crashing.

    Lets hope the MNCS carry on operating in the UK after October and not following their contingency plans to move elsewhere..

    Also you're forgetting almost all of our food come from EU. The prices will start rising for everything and wages likely to start falling due to uncertainty.
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    (Original post by 99_Problems)
    The remain campaign was terrible...... The general undertone, that was not part of the main campaign but present nonetheless, that Brexiters were stupid, racist, plebs etc. only pushed them further into the welcoming arms of UKIP and Brexit.

    Some were never going to change their vote but we probably made more undecided people Brexit than Brexit did!
    Bang on the money*
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    Stupid White girl I hope you get raped by a pack of ravenous refugees
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    (Original post by Themini)
    Lol did you want to carry on with your text book drivel?

    What part of we don't make anything do you still not get? The currency is today 31 years behind what it was against the dollar. If MNCS leave = not that many exports. We don't have our own domestic industries to make up the shortfall in revenue = mass unemployment, hysteria and systematic crashing.

    Lets hope the MNCS carry on operating in the UK after October and not following their contingency plans to move elsewhere..

    Also you're forgetting almost all of our food come from EU. The prices will start rising for everything and wages likely to start falling due to uncertainty.
    That's not how currency works. It's not 31 years 'behind'. The pound isn't going to just appreciate and strengthen forever.
    MNCs aren't leaving. Red tape is the biggest barrier against trade, not tariffs. The UK remains a good place to do business, and will only get even more competitive.
    The idea that we don't have our own domestic industries is just plain waffle.
    And no, 60% of our food is grown domestically, and here's a good article from Forbes on why prices won't rise. http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst.../#66590b1347c8
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    (Original post by Themini)
    Lol did you want to carry on with your text book drivel?

    What part of we don't make anything do you still not get? The currency is today 31 years behind what it was against the dollar. If MNCS leave = not that many exports. We don't have our own domestic industries to make up the shortfall in revenue = mass unemployment, hysteria and systematic crashing.

    Lets hope the MNCS carry on operating in the UK after October and not following their contingency plans to move elsewhere..

    Also you're forgetting almost all of our food come from EU. The prices will start rising for everything and wages likely to start falling due to uncertainty.
    lol did you want to sound like an illiterate? you do, because you probably are.
    The currency is 31 years behind because Dave, George and the rest of the remain camp played down Britain.The uncertainty that we face is a product of their campaigning.Its no big deal.If some MNCs leave then either new ones will come to take their place or worst of all, there will be a few startups. Prices will not rise because if they do, people will switch to domestic products.If Europe put up barriers to trade, so will we. We will negotiate deals with the countries going somewhere not some bloody PIGs
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    Just a side note, people are acting like those who voted leave only did it because of 'immigrants'. I'm sure MANY people who voted remain voted because of something silly too. Not everyone had an intelligent reasoning behind their vote.

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    (Original post by Captivated)
    Just a side note, people are acting like those who voted leave only did it because of 'immigrants'. I'm sure MANY people who voted remain voted because of something silly too. Not everyone had an intelligent reasoning behind their vote.

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    Its funny and slightly ironic that you couldnt name one of these silly reasons.
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    (Original post by NerradCFCB)
    The thing you really need to understand is that Brexit was the best decision this countries electorate has ever made. We can still take skilled migrants based on our Visa system, this can be based on our needs and gaps in our work force. What the "leave" voters voted based on was closing our borders, seriously having unskilled immigration of 150,000 from the European union is not a great idea, yes they may pay their taxes, earn their money and not claim of the dole but that is not the point. It is about time England put there own people first. Total immigration was 330,000- We would need to build a home every 4 minutes morning, noon and night- If you ask me that is totally unreasonable because

    A. we will run out of space to build on
    B We can't carry on like this, resources such as land to build on are finite

    I am 19 years of age and I voted to leave the European Union, if people actually did there research the only thing it impacts is our exports, yes they may decrease if tarrifs are put on them as a business point a view , but Germany, Holland, USA and some other European countries already want to do a deal with us- leaving has done us a favour in the long term we will have the best of both worlds, closed borders and access to the single market without any calls of changing currency to the Euro. The short term impact may make the pound worth less and make our (the consumers) spending power less but in 10 years time when you have a decent paying job because we have controlled migration you will thank us, this is because the wage demands of europeans are much less than ours. I live in Stone Cross their is a big chicken Factory where there is over 1,000 polish workers, it has been rumored many of them are being paid cash in hand £3 a hour and are put on day release to attend their job centre meetings an English worker would have to be paid £7.20 (if over 25 if not NMW).

    To answer your question about Becky, she is in a very bad position- she messed up her own education but I am a very patriotic man i would hire a trier with one GCSE over a foreigner if i had no skills gaps to fill in terms of specialist knowledge. Also it will force the Government to offer more incentives for the British people to go into Medics instead of doing the easy thing and importing them, if you think about it we could invest some of the £35 million pound a day of fees into incentives to improve the education of our citizens, we could bring a lot of low earners out of tax and reduce the tax burden of companies so they have more money, can expand and create jobs- think about it. But I guess you would rather remain and give unelected bureaucrats in Brussels even more powers, you pretty much asking for a democratic dictatorship

    You say Over 65's should not be able to vote, I guess you want to allow 16 year olds to vote- not only this propostion is wrong because at 16 you have no life experiences it is also age discrimination. It is capped at 18 because very few people understand politics at that age, I still struggle. 16 and under would not turn up or cross a random box which makes electoral fraud a lot easier. You have been whipped into overdrive by a scaremonger and **** your pants campaign what Remain delivered everything from WW3 to no european country will trade with us, I said before the vote Germany sells over 500,000 cars a year here in the UK, if they close the door on us think of the unsold stock and profit hits they would have, the German government are interested in this because of the tax which is paid , and are already willing to do a deal with us

    Also have you read an EU treaty, I'm guessing not. They are trying to enforce things on member states such as joining the Euro
    Article 3 of the Lisbon Treaty states
    "The Union shall establish an economic and monetary union whose currency is theeuro."
    How democratic enforcing the Euro on every nation, we managed to Reject it because the pound is worth more than the Euro- which is a doomed project because the more economically developed countries are richer than the less economically developed countries meaning if they share the same currency the poorer countries will be pushed into poverty because the Euro is worth more than there currency so they get less money and the rate of inflation in the EU will determine the prices paid by the consumer. Did you know the EU imposed VAT on us, and a green tax on our industries so we had less exports than what we would had with out the green tax, the impact this had was that a lot of our steelworks, had to pay more to produce and export our goods, this means that the demand would be less for our products and the effect this had was it killed manufacturing in the 1980's and over a million people in mining and steel lost there jobs
    I think I will leave it there, I look forward to your response, and will debate further then

    http://order-order.com/2016/03/30/eu...teel-industry/
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...erre-moscovici
    You think OP is going to read all that and counter it?

    You blithering idiot.
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    (Original post by datboii)
    Its funny and slightly ironic that you couldnt name one of these silly reasons.
    It was just a small reminder. I wasn't about to go on a full blown rant because I don't care to. I'm saying people voted for silly and good reasons on BOTH sides. I'm sure you're aware that a lot of people didn't have a clue what was going on e.g. on BBC news, a builder on the street was asked why he wanted out and said 'dunno jus immigrants init'. That's what I mean.
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    (Original post by Captivated)
    It was just a small reminder. I wasn't about to go on a full blown rant because I don't care to. I'm saying people voted for silly and good reasons on BOTH sides. I'm sure you're aware that a lot of people didn't have a clue what was going on e.g. on BBC news, a builder on the street was asked why he wanted out and said 'dunno jus immigrants init'. That's what I mean.
    I think there is more people voting for silly reasons on the leave side than the remain side though. Like much more.
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    (Original post by datboii)
    You think OP is going to read all that and counter it?

    You blithering idiot.
    Typing that message up helped me get rid of an idiot though...
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    (Original post by datboii)
    I think there is more people voting for silly reasons on the leave side than the remain side though. Like much more.
    I didn't specify which side had more silly reasons. I simply just said people seem to forget there are on the remain side.

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    Just to spice up; Nigel Farage resigned today saying he achieved his political ambition of Brexit. But it feels more like he messed up and walking away:mmm::mmm:

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