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    (Original post by Vividly clear)
    What in the world?


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    Why does anyone need church bells or hollering at the top of their voices to call their faithful to prayer or spread their message? It's totally unecessary.
    If people want to follow a religion, fine. It doesn't mean the rest of us want to hear about it.
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    (Original post by inhuman)
    The first part I agree with. I don't like it but it is part of our culture and it has a rather nice ring to it.

    The second part, what does that mean? Would you feel persecuted if I spread the opposite of what you are doing?
    I'd feel persecuted if I wasn't able to spread the word of God freely in every place in Britain. In some Muslim areas, Christians spreading the Gospel get abused.
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    As a practicing muslim I wouldn't sign this because muslims make up a small fraction of the british population so therefore it would be unfair to other religions who would have to listen to it.
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    I'd feel persecuted if I wasn't able to spread the word of God freely in every place in Britain. In some Muslim areas, Christians spreading the Gospel get abused.
    So you are saying I should also be free to spread atheism and educate people against the Church and against Islam?
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    (Original post by inhuman)
    So you are saying I should also be free to spread atheism and educate people against the Church and against Islam?
    If you really want to do that, then I guess you should have that right to choose to do so.
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    Why does your freedom matter more than mine? What if I don't want to hear your message.
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    If you really want to do that, then I guess you should have that right to choose to do so.
    Fair enough, at least you are not a hypocrite like many on here, I respect that.

    But next question, what if I don't want to hear any of you lot, not the Christian not the Muslim (not the atheist for that matter)?

    Should one not respect my wishes for being left in peace?
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    (Original post by inhuman)
    Fair enough, at least you are not a hypocrite like many on here, I respect that.

    But next question, what if I don't want to hear any of you lot, not the Christian not the Muslim (not the atheist for that matter)?

    Should one not respect my wishes for being left in peace?
    If you're in a public place, then you can leave if you don't want to hear it. If I come knocking on your door to talk about Jesus then you can shut the door.

    There are often Muslim preachers on my high street spreading their religion and I don't want to hear that but I do think they should have the right to say that, so I'll deal with it.
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    If you're in a public place, then you can leave if you don't want to hear it. If I come knocking on your door to talk about Jesus then you can shut the door.

    There are often Muslim preachers on my high street spreading their religion and I don't want to hear that but I do think they should have the right to say that, so I'll deal with it.
    Interesting view.

    Why do you think you have the right to bother people in the public space just because it is a space that doesn't belong to them?
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    (Original post by inhuman)
    Interesting view.

    Why do you think you have the right to bother people in the public space just because it is a space that doesn't belong to them?
    It's freedom of speech.
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    It's freedom of speech.
    No it's not.

    Freedom of speech is writing a political or opinionated article say, and not have to fear to be imprisoned or attacked or whatever for it. People can choose to read it or not.

    In public I can't really choose that, I could leave, but why should I have to leave, why don't you leave and do your thing in your private place?

    At least how I see it. I must admit in this case it is very much probable to hold different views. You have the freedom to say what you want. You don't have the freedom to bother people as you want. Of course people, as you just did, will use "muh but freedom of speech" to get away with doing exactly that. But I am of the opinion that should not be allowed.
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    (Original post by inhuman)
    No it's not.

    Freedom of speech is writing a political or opinionated article say, and not have to fear to be imprisoned or attacked or whatever for it. People can choose to read it or not.

    In public I can't really choose that, I could leave, but why should I have to leave, why don't you leave and do your thing in your private place?

    At least how I see it. I must admit in this case it is very much probable to hold different views. You have the freedom to say what you want. You don't have the freedom to bother people as you want. Of course people, as you just did, will use "muh but freedom of speech" to get away with doing exactly that. But I am of the opinion that should not be allowed.
    Ok, lets just agree to disagree.
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    Of course Birmingham and East London have contributed to the majority of the signatures LMAO
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    Why? What do you get out of this? People who go to the mosque will do so in a routine fashion, they don't need the whole neighbourhood being disturbed by the call and having to listen to it. We'd inevitably have a faction determined to put a stop to it all the same.
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    No. And I'm a socialist.
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    (Original post by inhuman)


    Not your thing?
    Erm aren't you a girl?

    Because Hanwar is a girl
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    (Original post by Vividly clear)
    Erm aren't you a girl?

    Because Hanwar is a girl
    No, I am a guy. I just didn't know the user was a girl. Makes my offer all the better but I have given up on her replying.
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    (Original post by BaconandSauce)
    If Egypt is the example we have of how Muslims treat 'others' then they are just as bad and perhaps even worse than Saudi.
    That really isn't true. There are god-awful incidents, true, but generally speaking, specially in cities, there is no discrimination whatsoever and they get along just fine.
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    (Original post by inhuman)
    http://www.economist.com/news/middle...-crimes-and-no

    For real brah?

    "a teacher in Minya who filmed his students mocking the jihadists of Islamic State was convicted in court of blasphemy and sentenced to three years in prison."

    Anti-ISIS = prison in Egypt. Tell me again how ISIS does not represent Islam. That whole religion is a complete joke. And the west is getting more and more tired of its excuses.
    Are you really suggesting that Egypt supports ISIS? Al-Sisi's whole presidency bid is based on fighting ISIS and their legions in Egypt.
    Look at this for example: http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2015/0...slamist-books/
 
 
 
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