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    (Original post by barneystin)
    Nah. Nah. Fam. How did Wenger get £25m for Adebayor :rofl:
    The season before his move he scored 30 but then dropped to 16 so that should have been a bit of a warning sign tbf. Honestly about £10m of that fee is due to Cesc' form in the 07-08 season :coma:

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    Battle of the Yayas. I swear if Giroud or Monreal even get a single minute on the pitch tomorrow I will flip out.

    My preferred (and realistic) line-up:

    Yes, we might get bullied in midfield, but if Cazorla or Wilshere have an off day just bring on Flamini to break a few legs. Can't utilize ze Germans because they are recovering, Diaby is apparently injured. What we lose in physical intimidation, we make up for in pace and creativity (much like City, except they have Toure).
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    Also isn't Sanogo good at disrupting midfielders. IIRC from vs Liverpool he drops back and picks the ball from players with his lanky legs to launch a counter?
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    (Original post by BenAssirati)
    Battle of the Yayas. I swear if Giroud or Monreal even get a single minute on the pitch tomorrow I will flip out.

    My preferred (and realistic) line-up:

    Yes, we might get bullied in midfield, but if Cazorla or Wilshere have an off day just bring on Flamini to break a few legs. Can't utilize ze Germans because they are recovering, Diaby is apparently injured. What we lose in physical intimidation, we make up for in pace and creativity (much like City, except they have Toure).
    Ramsey will be breaking forward so Wilshere and Cazorla against Yaya/Fernando is just suicidal tbf. Hope Flamini starts so we have a bit of a physical presence in midfield.



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    (Original post by BenAssirati)
    Battle of the Yayas. I swear if Giroud or Monreal even get a single minute on the pitch tomorrow I will flip out.

    My preferred (and realistic) line-up:

    Yes, we might get bullied in midfield, but if Cazorla or Wilshere have an off day just bring on Flamini to break a few legs. Can't utilize ze Germans because they are recovering, Diaby is apparently injured. What we lose in physical intimidation, we make up for in pace and creativity (much like City, except they have Toure).
    You'll flip out it monreal or giroud play but are more than happy for wilshere to play. Lol he's ****ing terrible
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    (Original post by TheInvincibles14)
    Ramsey will be breaking forward so Wilshere and Cazorla against Yaya/Fernando is just suicidal tbf. Hope Flamini starts so we have a bit of a physical presence in midfield.



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    Think you should do a Mourinho and just put a big fast physical CB in defensive midfield in a 4-3-3. Koscielny would be my pick.
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    I look forward to our ''midfield gets overrun due to defensive indiscipline'' goals of August 2014


    It's a friendly so lets just go out and try and outscore them, the Utd/Arsenal CS games were generally like that and were dynamite
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    (Original post by jam278)
    Think you should do a Mourinho and just put a big fast physical CB in defensive midfield in a 4-3-3. Koscielny would be my pick.
    Who's going to play CB then? Miquel, Monreal? Would like us to try 4-3-1-2 honestly. Use Flamini-Wilshere-Ramsey in midfield, Alexis as the no.10 and Campbell and Sanogo up front. Would be interesting.

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    (Original post by baconbutty)
    You'll flip out it monreal or giroud play but are more than happy for wilshere to play. Lol he's ****ing terrible
    Wilshere hasn't been terrible for ages. He just hasn't performed to the monumentally high standard some delusional Arsenal fans hold him. The same people who slate Wilshere were probably sucking him off in 2010, and the ones who love Ramsey were probably calling for his blood a few seasons ago. Monreal is an absolute waste of space who has no redeeming features. Giroud is a player who can sometimes play amazing games, but more often than not is constantly offside and is just a glorified Bendtner. Wilshere always contributes at least one good play or pass, and most games helps mesh the team together. His weakness is that he is a weak little midget who gets bullied by just about everyone.

    He is not terrible, at least not to the same scale of Monreal/Giroud, and if we didn't play him, who would we play? Arteta, who is just as weak? Flamini who is just a magnet for free kicks and bookings? If I could, I would play Diaby and Ozil instead of Cazorla and Wilshere, but we can't.
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    lets not kid ourselves, arteta will get 90 mins. is ox 100% fit now? if so i'd put him and campbell on either wing with the real yaya upfront, cazorla CAM with mikel/rambo behind.
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    (Original post by BenAssirati)
    Wilshere hasn't been terrible for ages. He just hasn't performed to the monumentally high standard some delusional Arsenal fans hold him. The same people who slate Wilshere were probably sucking him off in 2010, and the ones who love Ramsey were probably calling for his blood a few seasons ago. Monreal is an absolute waste of space who has no redeeming features. Giroud is a player who can sometimes play amazing games, but more often than not is constantly offside and is just a glorified Bendtner. Wilshere always contributes at least one good play or pass, and most games helps mesh the team together. His weakness is that he is a weak little midget who gets bullied by just about everyone.

    He is not terrible, at least not to the same scale of Monreal/Giroud, and if we didn't play him, who would we play? Arteta, who is just as weak? Flamini who is just a magnet for free kicks and bookings? If I could, I would play Diaby and Ozil instead of Cazorla and Wilshere, but we can't.
    hes not as bad as monreal but hes far worse than giroud. he offers absolutely nothing at all currently. he doesn't score, doesn't assist, average passing, average work-rate, his dribbling is a ****ing shambles lately. His one-twos never come off. He constantly gets knocked off the ball and just sits on the floor expecting the ref to blow up and more often than not he doesn't get the foul.
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    (Original post by TheInvincibles14)
    Who's going to play CB then? Miquel, Monreal? Would like us to try 4-3-1-2 honestly. Use Flamini-Wilshere-Ramsey in midfield, Alexis as the no.10 and Campbell and Sanogo up front. Would be interesting.

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    I think Kos and Chambers will start in central defence. I see Wenger playing it safe with 4-2-3-1 and an experienced line up
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    (Original post by Peggles_*)
    Besiktas aren't no two-bob team made of Kebab salesmen! They will offer a sterner test than Fenerbache did last year, they finished 12 points clear of them the season just gone too. 40,000 Turks jumping up and down for 90 minutes won't be much fun either!! Also have one of our former boys in Oğuzhan Özyakup, who by all accounts is one of their better players. Two away games in the league after both them games won't make it easy.

    I have absolutely no idea what they see in him, Vermaelen's defensive failings were often masked by the fact that he would score, I think in his first season he got 8! There is this jitteryness about the team anytime he played over the last two seasons, the Spurs away 12/13 and Chelsea home 12/13 stand out. He's racked up a fair few injuries in the last couple seasons and he's a crackhead (BS twitter rumour! :rolleyes:) £15m for him is quite astonishing. Still good luck to the guy.

    Song smh, I have never seen anyone bombed out of a club so quickly, Song must have really pissed someone off!! Didn't him and Bould get into a fight when we were on pre season in Cologne? Out the door in a flash.


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    You mean Fenerbahce finished 12 points clear of Besiktas. :mmm:
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    Our central midfield looks like it will get overrun. We need some physical presence there at least. Flamini is a must. Put Ramsey next to him.
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    (Original post by TheInvincibles14)
    The season before his move he scored 30 but then dropped to 16 so that should have been a bit of a warning sign tbf. Honestly about £10m of that fee is due to Cesc' form in the 07-08 season :coma:

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    10m? Try 24m haha
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    (Original post by Pete_91)
    10m? Try 24m haha
    lol I cant believe he actually played for Madrid :lol:
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    (Original post by barneystin)
    lol I cant believe he actually played for Madrid :lol:
    Wasn't it a total of 48m in 2009 for him and Toure?

    Daylight robbery haha.
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    (Original post by Mr Smurf)
    You mean Fenerbahce finished 12 points clear of Besiktas. :mmm:
    Fenerbache weren't really up for it. Besiktas, in their last three or four CL campaigns have come up against Chelsea, United, Liverpool and Barcelona coming out on top in at least one leg. They seem to like these kind of games.

    At home we will beat them, but playing away it will probably be less comfortable than it was against Fenerbache...
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    I'd like us to play a proper 4-1-4-1 if we can sign a decent DM. Flamini as cover is fine, and we can also throw Arteta there if we're in control and want to slow things down a bit.

    Ramsey next to Ozil, with Alexis and Walcott on the wings, and Giroud doing what he does best.

    Wilshere, OX, Cazorla, Rosicky, et cetera fighting for those 2 positions, and wide positions if Alexis and Walcott pick up injuries, gives us some depth.

    The key is, of course, the DM.

    Would Carvalho fit the bill?
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    (Original post by barneystin)
    lol I cant believe he actually played for Madrid :lol:
    Tbf he did well at Madrid.
 
 
 
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