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    (Original post by ETRC)
    A bit of that is Mertaskar's fault and a bit of it is Wneger's fault. Mert is the captain and completely ****s the bed when we are a goal down. He doesn't even try to encourage the team, he just does nothing. And Wenger's job is to prepare the players mentally before games and he is not doing that.
    Ozil is a mixed character. If we are ahead first, he does his defensive work and has a high work rate, but if we go behind first he does not try.

    Our tactics are non-existant. If we had a manager with proper tactics like Klopp, we have a chance to win CL.
    Genuinely think Mert was only made captain because our captains normally leave after a season and Kosc was injured. This is the problem though, we have no leader on the pitch and that isn't going to change anytime soon.

    The tactics were poor, but I wish people would stop mentioning Klopp, Dortmund are doing appallingly by any measure, he is a personality manager imo.

    The players let themselves down and the fans did too, the Emirates sounded dead. I personally don't think Wenger is to blame for this one, other than playing Santi and Ozil in the middle and starting Welbeck.
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    Damn, who took the jam out of your doughnut :hmpf:
    It was a ring doughnut :cry2:
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    Don't worry, now that Klopp's Dortmund won't be in Europe next season, everyone will be calling for another flavour manager. Perhaps Koeman.
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    (Original post by leinad2012)
    Genuinely think Mert was only made captain because our captains normally leave after a season and Kosc was injured. This is the problem though, we have no leader on the pitch and that isn't going to change anytime soon.

    The tactics were poor, but I wish people would stop mentioning Klopp, Dortmund are doing appallingly by any measure, he is a personality manager imo.

    The players let themselves down and the fans did too, the Emirates sounded dead. I personally don't think Wenger is to blame for this one, other than playing Santi and Ozil in the middle and starting Welbeck.
    Wenger should never play two CAM's against good teams, but we had no choice with Wilshere not ready yet. Walcott showed us how good he is, and ruined their left back for the 20 mins he was on.
    And I mentioned Klopp because he has a go at players if they do not try their hardest. If Dortmund try hard and lose he won't mind, but if he saw Merk and the players not caring he would have a massive go at them which is what Wenger needs to do now.
    Too many players do not care about football as long as they are getting paid large amounts.
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    You've got a decent chance of bouncing back straight away this weekend. Everton will be leggy, have their minds on the Europa League, and have been off the boil in the PL for large parts of this campaign.

    Giroud needs to step up, though.
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    (Original post by sr90)
    Nah it's got to be Fellaini, who else will we lump the long balls to?
    inb4 fellani, di maria front two
    mata cdm/ centre back again and rooney a holding midfielder

    I think LVG genuinely gets pissed off at players sometimes so plays them in a crap role as revenge.
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    (Original post by sr90)
    Arsenal signings last two seasons:

    Sanogo, Flamini, Ozil, Sanchez, Chambers, Welbeck, Debuchy, Ospina, Chambers, Paulista, Bielik

    That lot cost £150m and I don't see much ''established quality'' there apart from the obvious two. Most of them are the same type of player that Wenger has always gone for. I have no doubt that he'll leave a fantastic squad for whoever succeeds him but there's still a lot of work to do. Is a defensive unit containing Ospina, Bellerin, Gibbs, Mertesacker & Coquelin good enough to compete for the Premier League and Champions League? Not even close.
    Wow, I can't believe that list cost 150m. I would disagree with you when you say most of that list are not established quality though. Actually I'd say most of them are good enough. The squad is the most complete its been in a long time.

    The problem is we need to upgrade on some of our first team players, and that may mean stunting the development of a few youngsters. For me that cm position where Coquelin is playing is the most important upgrade, it would be good if we can find someone else in our squad to play next to him too when Ramsey and Wilshere are injured. I'm not sure Cazorla can play there in big games.




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    The Wenger Bus is coming... because his players don't give a toss
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    (Original post by ETRC)
    Wenger should never play two CAM's against good teams, but we had no choice with Wilshere not ready yet. Walcott showed us how good he is, and ruined their left back for the 20 mins he was on.
    And I mentioned Klopp because he has a go at players if they do not try their hardest. If Dortmund try hard and lose he won't mind, but if he saw Merk and the players not caring he would have a massive go at them which is what Wenger needs to do now.
    Too many players do not care about football as long as they are getting paid large amounts.
    Agree mostly with the top bit although I guess it could be argued that Ox could have started over Santi or Ozil at CM as a B2B for one of them to come on later, but it doesn't matter much now.

    I think people are quite naive when it comes to Wenger, he is experienced enough to know that giving the players a *******ing in a press conference rarely helps things, but I'm sure he tore them apart behind closed doors, as most former Arsenal players have said he does.

    Have to say though, if Wenger is giving Mert a telling off and he still isn't responding then he needs to go, it's simply not good enough for a captain to not show any sign of caring about the result.
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    Do you think that Claude and Ty have essentially become an act now? Of course their original opinions will stand but I get the impression that they've acquired a small level of fame and are now playing up to their online personas.
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    (Original post by TornadoGR4)
    Do you think that Claude and Ty have essentially become an act now? Of course their original opinions will stand but I get the impression that they've acquired a small level of fame and are now playing up to their online personas.
    They have been for a while, along with Bully. They are all a bunch of sackless morons who think they are 'super fans' because they stand in front of a camera looking like mongs.
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    It's probably a bit of both, the interviewer clearly tries to push them to say controversial things as it =more views= more youtube money (without including their shocking merch).

    Fame probably has a lot to do with it too, but they're sort of the faces of the extreme AKB and WOB's so they have to keep pushing their views further and further to the point where both just sound equally stupid
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    (Original post by leinad2012)
    Have to say though, if Wenger is giving Mert a telling off and he still isn't responding then he needs to go, it's simply not good enough for a captain to not show any sign of caring about the result.
    I agree. I'm hoping Gabriel's english is good enough for his to start over Mert now. I'm tired of Mert not being brave and making stupid decisions. Mert needs to fix up ASAP.
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    (Original post by TornadoGR4)
    Do you think that Claude and Ty have essentially become an act now? Of course their original opinions will stand but I get the impression that they've acquired a small level of fame and are now playing up to their online personas.
    Of course they are. I've heard that they are actually friends off camera and travel to aways together.
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    (Original post by shawn_o1)
    The Wenger Bus is coming... because his players don't give a toss
    Shawn have you been candy flipping recently?
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    (Original post by Arkasia)
    Don't worry, now that Klopp's Dortmund won't be in Europe next season, everyone will be calling for another flavour manager. Perhaps Koeman.
    Dortmund will probably be in europe next season. Just that CL qualification is in the balance atm. They ain't too far from it though. Especially if they can beat Schalke.
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    (Original post by jam277)
    Dortmund will probably be in europe next season. Just that CL qualification is in the balance atm. They ain't too far from it though. Especially if they can beat Schalke.
    From coming out first in the CL group stages, and second in the league, ending up begging for Europa the next season is a pretty poor return from a squad that has not been significantly weakened, and a supposedly genius manager.
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    (Original post by ETRC)
    I agree. I'm hoping Gabriel's english is good enough for his to start over Mert now. I'm tired of Mert not being brave and making stupid decisions. Mert needs to fix up ASAP.
    Gabriel needs to know two phrases in English and he should be better than Mertesacker.

    1. Don't **** up.
    2. Actually run sometimes.
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    (Original post by Arkasia)
    From coming out first in the CL group stages, and second in the league, ending up begging for Europa the next season is a pretty poor return from a squad that has not been significantly weakened, and a supposedly genius manager.
    Yeah it's a poor season but every manager has had a poor season. Also the squad was significantly weakened in the loss of Lewandowski and loads of injuries, Biaczykowski being out for long, Gundogan being out for large parts of last season and needing to get up to speed, their best player in Reus being out for fairly long periods this season.

    Granted this is no excuse for being in the relegation zone after Xmas but they're playing much better than they were earlier on this season and were undone by defensive errors vs Juve who are 1st in Serie A and matched them away from home. Also I highly doubt they'll be begging for europa considering how they're playing. They'll get it comfortably, just that top 4 may be too much an ask for them, although I've seen Arsenal make similarly ridiculous gaps(see 11/12 and 12/13) so it can be done. They get 4th then it's just a normal season for them.
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    (Original post by jam277)
    Yeah it's a poor season but every manager has had a poor season. Also the squad was significantly weakened in the loss of Lewandowski and loads of injuries, Biaczykowski being out for long, Gundogan being out for large parts of last season and needing to get up to speed, their best player in Reus being out for fairly long periods this season.

    Granted this is no excuse for being in the relegation zone after Xmas but they're playing much better than they were earlier on this season and were undone by defensive errors vs Juve who are 1st in Serie A and matched them away from home. Also I highly doubt they'll be begging for europa considering how they're playing. They'll get it comfortably, just that top 4 may be too much an ask for them, although I've seen Arsenal make similarly ridiculous gaps(see 11/12 and 12/13) so it can be done. They get 4th then it's just a normal season for them.
    Wenger and SAF never had atrocious seasons (at least, not in the PL), neither has Maureen as far as I know? Presumably others haven't. Lewandowski should have been replaced amply by the introduction of Ramos and Immobile, with Sahin and Kagawa among the other recruits. Reus and Blasz were unlucky, yes, but their squad is more than good enough to be fighting with Wolfsburg for second, even without those two.

    Dortmund have been performing as they should have been in Europe, and they are only starting to find that form in domestic games. How many German teams get Europa? 5th and 6th, like us? If so, then yeah they'll be in Europe, but that's like United ending up in Europa at the end of this season - under-performing.
 
 
 
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