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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I fit near enough all the symptoms of schizoid personality disorder, reading out the symptoms is like reading a description of my personality. I have felt like this for some time but now I feel like it is starting to stop me from going out and doing stuff, as well as not caring much at all for friends and certain family members, I feel like I should ask for help, however I feel like that there is little that someone could do to help me, because I would struggle to engage in any therapy. Also, medication is completely out of the question, God only knows what poison they would be giving to me.

    Any advice would be great, thanks. http://static1.tsrfiles.co.uk/57d2aa...lies/smile.png
    Hiya :hugs:

    Schizoid PD is one of mine. I know what it feels like to feel alone and think as though you have no support. However, PDs can only be diagnosed by trained professionals. :yep:

    The medication isn't poison, btw. I'm on my sixth attempt. There is many side effects, oh yes, but it's not poison. Medication usually goes hand in hand with some of therapy.

    Honestly, do PM me if you need a rant about anything. I also don't engage in therapy, there is a worry that it might mess me up way too much.
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    (Original post by Tiger Rag)
    Deyesy did a thread about 999 what's your emergency. No idea if that would be of any use to Bullet Theory?
    Yes you are right. Thanks for reminding me, I will try to find it

    (Original post by PandaWho)
    I cant really help, but i think i saw this happen on 999 whats your emergancy, and wasnt even aware it was a new thing!
    I MH nurse attended along with police and ambulance to a guy who was fairly delusional and from what i saw it seemed like a really good idea, and deffinately was a hrlp to tge paramedics and police.

    However he kicked up more when she arrived because he was convinced he was fine and wasnt happy a MH professional was there.

    IIRC they let him go as he convinced them things were fine and later that same night they had another call regarding him. So in a way its a good idea, but as with lots of things it might not work all the time

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    Thanks! Yes I heard that it was on that programme, I don't watch it but I may try to dig that one out. Sounds interesting though - shame that they weren't able to support him the first time, but hopefully he got some help in the end. I think it is important to support the police as much as possible when it comes to mental health - for their sake and also for service users.

    (Original post by john2054)
    The thing is the problem individual in question, still has to be taken to an assessment unit, to be assessed by first sight a qualified psychiatrist, and then when the sentence switches over, a social worker and g.p. plus a second psychiarist too, so there are already safeguards in place at the moment. I don't think that having a nurse attend crisis points, when 999 has been called, will help much, it could actually get in the way of the police doing their jobs. I do think that it is a good idea for all police stations to have a nurse based there, as is now being done. Just my opinion though.
    From what I can gather, the point of the mental health professional attending calls is to triage people out and about and to provide a medical/social viewpoint to the police so they can make appropriate decisions. A lot of the statistics show that there is a significant number of people detained under section 136 who have no mental illness at all and also a lot of people being released after being assessed. The idea is that a mh professional will be able to determine who actually is mentally unwell and who needs to be assessed for admission, rather than relying on a police officer's somewhat limited knowledge.

    Are you saying that you feel that provided there is some medical opinion one a person has been detained that is fine for you? Thank you for your view - it's great to hear different opinions.
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    (Original post by Tiger Rag)
    Deyesy did a thread about 999 what's your emergency. No idea if that would be of any use to Bullettheory?
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    I did indeed

    See: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=4232088 ^_^
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    (Original post by Sabertooth)
    Thanks MM. It is an improvement on Fs but it's still a fail.

    I get what you mean about being the one with all the problems; I have allergies, eczema, GERD, freckles, hemophilia, migraines, messed up thyroid, mental health ****....my brothers are all healthy and hardly ever see doctors. Pisses me right off and I get why you say it's not fair because it definitely isn;t. However, it sounds like you're really trying to improve your situation in life. That's really admirable. Yes, it sucks that your sister does nothnig but tbh that rarely pays off for people - eventually their laziness will catch up with them and they'll be ****ed whereas you'll hopefully by then moved up at work and are successful. :hugs:
    I believe if you get a grade you don't "fail". You just don't get to hit the high bar that some random person has set.

    Sorry for the rant last night, i was just annoyed at how i can still not pass the one thing i wanted to yet i can somehow do other things? It doesn't make sense.
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    Does anyone feel like getting admitted to hospital?

    I know I always hate in there and it upsets my family but I just feel like I need a brake
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    why is it that the time when u cba with talking to people that they send you essays all at once but when ur like crying and feeling **** no-one is ever about :hmmmm:

    (Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd)
    john2054 : Ngl, this post above made me seriously LOL :lol: If you wanna come back in here and pretend to play "nice", fine. But don't think for a minute that any of us have forgotten who started that row with their inflammatory posts I know I have serious memory problems but even MY memory is not that bad

    Top TLG tip here (alliteration FTW): if you don't want it "getting pretty nasty on here", don't post nasty stuff yourself. Treat others as you wish to be treated
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    (Original post by Midnightmemories)
    I believe if you get a grade you don't "fail". You just don't get to hit the high bar that some random person has set.

    Sorry for the rant last night, i was just annoyed at how i can still not pass the one thing i wanted to yet i can somehow do other things? It doesn't make sense.
    At my uni, I need at least a C to do part 2 of this module (which is compulsory for my major).

    No worries, everyone needs a rant sometimes and, tbh, your's seemed really justified - I'd be pissed in that situation too. :hugs:
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    (Original post by Midnightmemories)
    Sabertooth don't beat yourself up too much about the D! From what I remember seeing it's a improvement from what you got before. Improvement is always a good thing! :hugs:

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    Think I've got the beginnings of a allergic reaction again. Think I've figured out what it could be now and it's going to be a pain in the arse trying to explain to work what's happened. (I think it's work related - the soap we use to wash our hands with) Getting a bit pissed off now with the itchyiness and stuff. It's like 3am and I can't sleep because of it.

    I'm the one twin with issues and it gets me down. I'm the one with allergies. I'm the one with baldness. I'm the one with scars from birth. I'm the one in constant pain everyday which the doctors have no clue what's caused it or how to treat it. I'm so fed up of being the one with problems yet I'm the only one who has a job. She gets to be around in the house all day doing nothing yet I'm the one who has to, for example, get up at 5am and go to work. Pretty much everyone in the house was still asleep when I got back today at 11am! It annoys me because I get called lazy and pathetic and stupid and told off for saying that my sister should get a job and stop being so selfish. Whilst my sister doesn't do any of that and gets away Scot free!

    Sorry for the rant guys. I'm just frustrated. Nothing's ever fair anymore and I'm just fed up.
    I know your feeling **** too, but your sister may not realise things are bad, and your sister may have things just as tough.
    And it may seem like she does nothing but im sure she does.

    I used to feel the same about my older sister i was at school and holding down a job and felt like she just got drunk and was doing drugs all the time but she was doing that to escape from **** things...

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    I'm suddenly so scared of going back to university. I had been really excited, and it's what has gotten me through the summer- but I've been thinking about it, and I'm just so scared of becoming depressed again.
    My trigger for being low tends to be feeling lonely/ abandoned, so if anything university helps that because I'm rarely alone. But I'm feeling so stable and normal right now, and I just don't want to unsettle that.
    I'm also concerned that the most likely outcome is a return of anxiety. The amount of stress on my course led to a few really bad panic attacks last year, and I found no coping mechanisms which worked. I'm much less scared of anxiety than depression, because I know that the anxiety comes and goes (whereas, for me, the depression is much more stagnant).
    Sorry about having a bit of a rant. As I say, I'm doing fine just now. I think it's just hit that I have four days till I go back, and I'm just so scared of the suicidal thoughts/ feelings returning.

    Hope everyone's okay x
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    (Original post by Ezme39)
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    I'm feeling exactly the same way.. i've been so positive and excited about going back to uni but getting worried about going downhill again.
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    I just got my PIP decision in the post. I wasn't awarded it. They gave me 0 points for everything. The guy didn't listen to a word I said at all. Because I could walk about 8m without collapsing to the ground, they have decided I can walk over 200m without any problems even though I explained how much pain this causes me. They said they is no reason to believe I have problems with pain, despite this being heavily detailed by my GP who they clearly didn't bother to contact despite me asking them to, because I'm not on pain medication even though I explained in the consultation I used to take codeine and diazepam every day, but it stopped working and I was getting withdrawal symptoms so my doctor and I agreed it was best to stop taking them. The letter has errors in it, they've missed spaces between words, there's endless grammatical errors and all sorts. They said I have no condition that would cause the cognitive impairment I describe, even though I do and they clearly have no clue what they're talking about, and I explained that I'm seeing a number of specialists who are trying to find out why I have such bad memory and cognitive issues but there is no official diagnosis as of this moment in time because they aren't sure and want to run more tests. I had to drop out of college because I was so ill and I didn't see anyone other than my family for almost a year. I was housebound for 3 months, and bedbound for 1. But apparently, I'm not ill at all and I've made the whole thing up. I've never felt so let down by this system. I applied a year ago and missed out on it by one point due to an error which I forgot to appeal, hence why I've applied again, and I've gotten a lot worse since that point as well. Zero ****ing points and I can't even read anymore; I can't go out on my own; I can't even walk to the car parked outside my house without serious back pain. It's cost me everything and they refuse to recognise that. Of course I'm going to appeal, but I feel like it's a complete lost cause at this point. I was considering coming off my medication for depression/anxiety very soon and I feel like this is setting me back so much and now I don't want to. I don't even know how I'm supposed to deal with this. Appealing a couple of points is one thing, but I got zero. I've always struggled with having an invisible illness and people not understanding and not believing, but I now have official written proof that I'm a liar who has nothing wrong with her. Awesome.
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    So sorry to hear about this it's all too common to hear about being scoring zero points when they are more than entitled to PIP. My stepdad suffers from strokes and Parkinsons Disease and they only gave him zero which wad a bloody joke. He appealed and got a high score and got mobility too. I know it's a very stressful time but I agree that you should fight this all the way. Appealing will be stressful but I'm sure it'll be worth it.

    Going through PIP troubles too atm and I know what you mean about the assessor not listening to you or there being blatant lies in your report. It's very disheartening but it's the DWP so it's not shocking

    My inbox is open if you ever want to talk. All the best with the appeal and remember we're all here for support and advice :hugs:

    P.s, quote didn't work for some reason
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    (Original post by Spock's Socks)
    So sorry to hear about this it's all too common to hear about being scoring zero points when they are more than entitled to PIP. My stepdad suffers from strokes and Parkinsons Disease and they only gave him zero which wad a bloody joke. He appealed and got a high score and got mobility too. I know it's a very stressful time but I agree that you should fight this all the way. Appealing will be stressful but I'm sure it'll be worth it.

    Going through PIP troubles too atm and I know what you mean about the assessor not listening to you or there being blatant lies in your report. It's very disheartening but it's the DWP so it's not shocking

    My inbox is open if you ever want to talk. All the best with the appeal and remember we're all here for support and advice :hugs:

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    Oh that's awful. I'm so glad he successfully appealed. I've made all my plans for the next steps so hopefully things so smoothly enough. I'm still pretty upset, but I've calmed down a bit so I just have to find my way forward really.

    I really hate the assessment part. It felt almost like he was there to catch me out in something. From what I hear, things seem a bit more reasonable in the appeal part so I'm hoping it goes a bit better. I hope everything works out okay with it for you. It makes me so angry when they just don't seem to care when they make such a huge decision, and make clearly the wrong one.

    Thank you, that's so kind! You too, of course. I've seen you around a lot on TSR and you're so lovely :hugs:
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    im so bloody tired.
    all the time like idk what else i can do.
    i go to bed quite early now even on the weekends and get up quite late and im still tired and on school nights i go to bed even earlier and am still tired also.
    i thought my dreams would go away but they haven't (lol) so this is like 2 months consecutive nightmares/vivid dreams every night :lol: tbh i could proably write a novel by now.
    Idk whether to tell someone about it, i tried telling my mum but she said just read something nice before bed but tbh a)dont really have time for that bc i work all night then go to sleep b)ill just dream of the plot and even if it is nice it will become not nice in my head.
    idk whether to see the school nurse about it but i went to her one time over palpitations as well as the proper doctor and she just wanted to refer me to counselling for anxiety which is like a no go area rn.
    so yeh
    lol
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    im so bloody tired.
    all the time like idk what else i can do.
    i go to bed quite early now even on the weekends and get up quite late and im still tired and on school nights i go to bed even earlier and am still tired also.
    i thought my dreams would go away but they haven't (lol) so this is like 2 months consecutive nightmares/vivid dreams every night :lol: tbh i could proably write a novel by now.
    Idk whether to tell someone about it, i tried telling my mum but she said just read something nice before bed but tbh a)dont really have time for that bc i work all night then go to sleep b)ill just dream of the plot and even if it is nice it will become not nice in my head.
    idk whether to see the school nurse about it but i went to her one time over palpitations as well as the proper doctor and she just wanted to refer me to counselling for anxiety which is like a no go area rn.
    so yeh
    lol
    I know it might sound silly but are you getting too much sleep and are you keeping busy? If i do nothing in a day im always more tired than when im busy

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    (Original post by PandaWho)
    I know it might sound silly but are you getting too much sleep and are you keeping busy? If i do nothing in a day im always more tired than when im busy

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    yeh ik what u mean tbf, like when you have too much sleep and you feel even more tired.
    Idk if it is that tho tbh, because i've been trying to have about 8 hours a night and also im back to school now so that is keeping me very busy even at weekends with coursework and stuff so idk tbh
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    (Original post by bullettheory)
    Yes you are right. Thanks for reminding me, I will try to find it



    Thanks! Yes I heard that it was on that programme, I don't watch it but I may try to dig that one out. Sounds interesting though - shame that they weren't able to support him the first time, but hopefully he got some help in the end. I think it is important to support the police as much as possible when it comes to mental health - for their sake and also for service users.



    From what I can gather, the point of the mental health professional attending calls is to triage people out and about and to provide a medical/social viewpoint to the police so they can make appropriate decisions. A lot of the statistics show that there is a significant number of people detained under section 136 who have no mental illness at all and also a lot of people being released after being assessed. The idea is that a mh professional will be able to determine who actually is mentally unwell and who needs to be assessed for admission, rather than relying on a police officer's somewhat limited knowledge.

    Are you saying that you feel that provided there is some medical opinion one a person has been detained that is fine for you? Thank you for your view - it's great to hear different opinions.
    However it is my experience that sometimes these nurses are the worst ones to determine who is well, and not. Leave that to the doctor's thanks!?
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    (Original post by chelseadagg3r)
    I just got my PIP decision in the post. I wasn't awarded it. They gave me 0 points for everything. The guy didn't listen to a word I said at all. Because I could walk about 8m without collapsing to the ground, they have decided I can walk over 200m without any problems even though I explained how much pain this causes me. They said they is no reason to believe I have problems with pain, despite this being heavily detailed by my GP who they clearly didn't bother to contact despite me asking them to, because I'm not on pain medication even though I explained in the consultation I used to take codeine and diazepam every day, but it stopped working and I was getting withdrawal symptoms so my doctor and I agreed it was best to stop taking them. The letter has errors in it, they've missed spaces between words, there's endless grammatical errors and all sorts. They said I have no condition that would cause the cognitive impairment I describe, even though I do and they clearly have no clue what they're talking about, and I explained that I'm seeing a number of specialists who are trying to find out why I have such bad memory and cognitive issues but there is no official diagnosis as of this moment in time because they aren't sure and want to run more tests. I had to drop out of college because I was so ill and I didn't see anyone other than my family for almost a year. I was housebound for 3 months, and bedbound for 1. But apparently, I'm not ill at all and I've made the whole thing up. I've never felt so let down by this system. I applied a year ago and missed out on it by one point due to an error which I forgot to appeal, hence why I've applied again, and I've gotten a lot worse since that point as well. Zero ****ing points and I can't even read anymore; I can't go out on my own; I can't even walk to the car parked outside my house without serious back pain. It's cost me everything and they refuse to recognise that. Of course I'm going to appeal, but I feel like it's a complete lost cause at this point. I was considering coming off my medication for depression/anxiety very soon and I feel like this is setting me back so much and now I don't want to. I don't even know how I'm supposed to deal with this. Appealing a couple of points is one thing, but I got zero. I've always struggled with having an invisible illness and people not understanding and not believing, but I now have official written proof that I'm a liar who has nothing wrong with her. Awesome.
    I'm sorry about this. Do you have a medical dianosis/other medical evidence you can use to support your appeal?
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    I took a huge panic out the blue earlier. It went from zero to 100 in an instant and caught me off guard. It's been a few hours now and I still don't feel right plus the usual obsessions are screaming at me "you were laced and that's why you don't feel right," "Callan's trying to poison you because he doesn't love you", "you're contaminated and nothing can clean you".

    I know it sounds silly and I know the thoughts are absurd but the thoughts scream over and over and over and no wonder I still don't feel right from that panic with those thoughts going around. I've got very little compulsions for once, mainly just obsessions. My hearts pounding, my mind is racing, I'm getting palpitations, I feel spacey and dizzy and have an overwhelming dread feeling.

    Hate this :cry2: Callan's doing his best to comfort me but there's only so much anyone can do. Time is the only cure, I suppose.

    Hope everyone else is OK tonight :hugs:

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    I really don't think I can take this much longer. The voices are just too loud. I have exams thurs and fri and none of it's going in. I've taken more klonopin and have a 50-50 mix glass of coke & whiskey meant to relax me but I feel so on edge and my thoughts are scaring me. I wad stupid to think I could do this. I just want to drug myself out of reality because I'm finding it so hard to cope. Another dream down thr drain. :cry2:

    Why do things have to be so hard?
 
 
 
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