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    (Original post by ak143244)
    I'm okayy, you?
    thats good im fine just finishing off work, and tired as hell..


    wht subjects do u take anyway? ooo
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    pm me init, dont wanna go off topic on this islamic thread yh
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    (Original post by mariam687)
    thats good im fine just finishing off work, and tired as hell..


    wht subjects do u take anyway? ooo
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    pm me init, dont wanna go off topic on this islamic thread yh
    Oh okay, that's good.

    Erm I take,
    Computing, IT, English Language all A Level. I also do Level 3 core Maths which is only for a year.
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    Erm.. okay. Sorry.
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    (Original post by ak143244)
    Salams guys
    (Original post by mariam687)
    hws every1 doing today?
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    Salam guys
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    Just sign up with the link and the first 10 Will get a free 50 pound voucher.
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    Wa'alaykumasalaam guys, doing well alhamdulillah, I hope you doing good too

    (Original post by mariam687)
    thats good im fine just finishing off work, and tired as hell..


    wht subjects do u take anyway? ooo
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    pm me init, dont wanna go off topic on this islamic thread yh
    Noone will mind if you talk about uni for a few posts
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    (Original post by IdeasForLife)
    Wa'alaykumasalaam guys, doing well alhamdulillah, I hope you doing good too



    Noone will mind if you talk about uni for a few posts

    Yeah I'm doing good too alhamdullilah, thanks
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    (Original post by ak143244)
    Oh okay, that's good.

    Erm I take,
    Computing, IT, English Language all A Level. I also do Level 3 core Maths which is only for a year.
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    Erm.. okay. Sorry.
    ooh nice, i do english language too but im doing it with the combined literature yesss im also doing Level 3 core maths!! im doing core maths hmwrk rn haha

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    Noone will mind if you talk about uni for a few posts
    ikik, im new init LOL i just felt like it was kind of irrelevant to the thread..
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    (Original post by mariam687)
    ooh nice, i do english language too but im doing it with the combined literature yesss im also doing Level 3 core maths!! im doing core maths hmwrk rn haha



    ikik, im new init LOL i just felt like it was kind of irrelevant to the thread..
    Yay cool we do similar subjects. Have you done the six degrees of seperation work?
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    (Original post by ak143244)
    Yay cool we do similar subjects. Have you done the six degrees of seperation work?
    yess thats good

    naa not yet, we're dojng stats first, like sampling n all, boring atm :/
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    Hishaam Bin Urwa رحمه الله used to say:

    “Do not question the people about what they have innovated today because they have prepared answers for it, rather ask them about the sunnah because they do not know it.”

    [Allama Aloosee in Ghayatul Amaanee Fee Radd Alan-Nabahaanee, 1/367]
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    Yahyaa Ibn Mu’aadh Al-Raazee said:

    “Son of Aadam; you seek the world as if your very life depended on it and you seek the Hereafter as if you have no need of it! You will acquire what you need from this world even if you do not run after it, but you will only attain the Hereafter if you run after it. So be aware of your true condition!”

    ["The Journey Of The Strangers", By Al-Aajurree, p. 67]
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    (Original post by mariam687)
    yess thats good

    naa not yet, we're dojng stats first, like sampling n all, boring atm :/
    Yeah same, we have to compare data and see whicchart/graph is best to represent data. Sucks but it's only for a year. Maybe we can help each other?
    Going sleep now. Talk later inshallah
    Have a good day
    Kudafiz
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    (Original post by ak143244)
    Yeah same, we have to compare data and see whicchart/graph is best to represent data. Sucks but it's only for a year. Maybe we can help each other?
    Going sleep now. Talk later inshallah
    Have a good day
    Kudafiz
    ahh icic, yh only 1 yr so its calmm, yeah sure, we can help eachother

    but i think it'll probably be more me asking u for help ahaha lool

    aight, yeah soon insh'Allah, take care yeah, sfesfe
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    Wa'alaykum Assalaam to everyone :h:
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    sorry for being lazy
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    Abdullaah Ibn Mas’ood (رضي الله عنه ) said:

    “Whoever wants to follow an example, let him follow the example of those who have passed away, the Companions of Muhammad (ﷺ)They were the best of this ummah, the purest in heart, the deepest in knowledge, the least in sophistication. They were people whom Allah chose to be the Companions of His Prophet (ﷺ) and to convey His religion, so imitate their ways and behaviour, for they were following the Straight Path.”

    [Al-Baghawi in Sharh as-Sunnah]
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    (Original post by IdeasForLife)
    They're not.

    The scholars of former have been declared being in contradiction to Islam because of their hatred of Umar (ra), Abu Bakr (ra) (and other beliefs) The laymen of that group aren't necessarily non-Muslim because they may not actually know what they follow or believe in the things that take out of Islam. You can find quotes from scholars such Imam Malik right to the modern day ulema which all speak against them. This group has a great history of declaring war against Muslims.

    Here's some proof for one of my statements above

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    Hafiz ibn Hajar Makki (may Allah have mercy on him) writes in Al-Sawaiq al-Muhriqah, p.294:

    “And from this verse, Imam Malik (may Allah have mercy on him), as reported from him, had deduced the verdict of kufr of Rawafid as they show hatred towards the Sahabah. He further states because the Sahabah causes them anger and every individual who is angered by the Sahabah is a kafir. This extraction is excellent as the verse in itself bears testimony to it. Therefore Imam Shafi (may Allah have mercy on him) has agreed with him (Imam Malik) on the verdict of declaring them [Rawafid]kafir and a large group of Imams agreed with him too.”

    Imam Qurtubi al-Maliki (d: 671H / may Allah have mercy on him) comments after producing the fatwa of Imam Malik:

    “Indeed, Malik did well in his statement and he reached the correct explanation. So whoever belittles a single one of them or reviles him in his narration, then he has rejected Allah, the Lord of the worlds and he has nullified the Shari’ah of the Muslims.”(Tafsir Qurtubi, 16:297)



    The latter are not Islamic either. And this one's right across the board to all their members (afaik). And this also something scholars have repeated throughout the centuries.

    Can you show me what research you've conducted and which scholars back your conclusions?

    I never said go out and kill shia because of their beliefs, if you make such serious allegations then bring proof. I've done one of two things 1) Adamantly disagreed with their aqeedah and argued against it here 2) Pointed out their atrocities against Muslims in Syria and stated Muslims need to defend themselves better.

    You can believe in Allah, believe that the Prophet (pbuh) was a messanger and also believe that the Qur'an is Allah's word but you can still be a non-Muslim through doing certain actions or believing in certain things.

    Edit - Yh it was that quote btw
    لا أصدق ما أرى. لقد تتبعت المنهج الؤموي الذي زرعه يزيد واباه ، وأزهر هذه المعتقدات النتنة كما ارى الأن! كيف لك ان تكفر جملة كبيرة من المسلمين بلا مصداقيه. ارى انت ترعرعت تحت رعاية المدرسة الوهابية ألتي تنشر الفتن في الأما .

    التكفير عند المسلمين إتهامتة خطيرة ( بإستثناء الوهابيه) فعليك ان تبرهن على كفر الشيعة، وإن لم تستطع فعل ذلك، تب وإستغفر ربك.

    بالله عليك، هل تصدق ان الشيعة اشرار خباث لا ينون إلا لإصقاط كيان الإسلام. حقا انت مهرج، تحترف بالتهريج اكثر من الأمور الإسلاميه.

    I dont believe what I'm reading . You are a true follower of the Umayyad manhaj, which was started by Yazid and his father, and thrived as I can see now !

    How could you excommunicate such a large number of Muslims with no proof. I can see you were raised under the care of the Wahhabi school , which spreads discord amongst Muslims of the world.

    Takfir amongst Muslims (except Wahhabis) is a dangerous accusation. Having done so, you are now burdened to provide absolute proof of this. Otherwise repent and ask for forgiveness.

    Honestly, do you really believe shias are comicbook villains who are against Muslims (since they arnt) and aim to destroy Islam . If so , it seems you are a clown , more proficient in tomfoolery than Islamic matters
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    (Original post by Kazuhira)
    لا أصدق ما أرى. لقد تتبعت المنهج الؤموي الذي زرعه يزيد واباه ، وأزهر هذه المعتقدات النتنة كما ارى الأن! كيف لك ان تكفر جملة كبيرة من المسلمين بلا مصداقيه. ارى انت ترعرعت تحت رعاية المدرسة الوهابية ألتي تنشر الفتن في الأما .

    التكفير عند المسلمين إتهامتة خطيرة ( بإستثناء الوهابيه) فعليك ان تبرهن على كفر الشيعة، وإن لم تستطع فعل ذلك، تب وإستغفر ربك.

    بالله عليك، هل تصدق ان الشيعة اشرار خباث لا ينون إلا لإصقاط كيان الإسلام. حقا انت مهرج، تحترف بالتهريج اكثر من الأمور الإسلاميه.

    I dont believe what I'm reading . You are a true follower of the Umayyad manhaj, which was started by Yazid and his father, and thrived as I can see now !

    How could you excommunicate such a large number of Muslims with no proof. I can see you were raised under the care of the Wahhabi school , which spreads discord amongst Muslims of the world.

    Takfir amongst Muslims (except Wahhabis) is a dangerous accusation. Having done so, you are now burdened to provide absolute proof of this. Otherwise repent and ask for forgiveness.

    Honestly, do you really believe shias are comicbook villains who are against Muslims (since they arnt) and aim to destroy Islam . If so , it seems you are a clown , more proficient in tomfoolery than Islamic matters
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    (Original post by Kazuhira)
    لا أصدق ما أرى. لقد تتبعت المنهج الؤموي الذي زرعه يزيد واباه ، وأزهر هذه المعتقدات النتنة كما ارى الأن! كيف لك ان تكفر جملة كبيرة من المسلمين بلا مصداقيه. ارى انت ترعرعت تحت رعاية المدرسة الوهابية ألتي تنشر الفتن في الأما .

    التكفير عند المسلمين إتهامتة خطيرة ( بإستثناء الوهابيه) فعليك ان تبرهن على كفر الشيعة، وإن لم تستطع فعل ذلك، تب وإستغفر ربك.

    بالله عليك، هل تصدق ان الشيعة اشرار خباث لا ينون إلا لإصقاط كيان الإسلام. حقا انت مهرج، تحترف بالتهريج اكثر من الأمور الإسلاميه.

    I dont believe what I'm reading . You are a true follower of the Umayyad manhaj, which was started by Yazid and his father, and thrived as I can see now !

    How could you excommunicate such a large number of Muslims with no proof. I can see you were raised under the care of the Wahhabi school , which spreads discord amongst Muslims of the world.

    Takfir amongst Muslims (except Wahhabis) is a dangerous accusation. Having done so, you are now burdened to provide absolute proof of this. Otherwise repent and ask for forgiveness.

    Honestly, do you really believe shias are comicbook villains who are against Muslims (since they arnt) and aim to destroy Islam . If so , it seems you are a clown , more proficient in tomfoolery than Islamic matters
    I used a quote by Imam Malik to show the Islamic position. I've seen similar quotes by Imam Abu Hanifa and Imam Shafi too. Calling orthodox Islam an "Umayyad manhaj" won't fool many people in an Islamic society.

    Ah yes "wahaabis". Why the sectarianism now? Funny how asking people to stop being sectarian seems to be one way thing. :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by ak143244)
    Yeah I'm doing good too alhamdullilah, thanks

    Awesome, how was your day?
    (Original post by mariam687)


    ikik, im new init LOL i just felt like it was kind of irrelevant to the thread..
    I think I acted a bit like that when I was new too.
 
 
 
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