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(Original post by Celtic_Anthony)
So, that's the death penalty for multiple murders and that other grievous crime of "getting old"? Good one.
*Argument that actually doesnt make much sense.*
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(Original post by Squidgyness)
No, the "death penalty" is a punishment that would be specifically applied. "Euthanasia" would be instituted across the board.

Of course, you could call "Euthanasia" the "death penalty," as long as the policy remains the same it makes no difference.

I'll edit my original post, if you really want me too. I dont care about what people call things, merely what they are or do.

Oh, and the death penalty is only for security reasons - a multiple murderer would be high maintenance. Easier to kill them. The reason I didnt institute the death penalty for all crimes is because you must be made to do penance for what you did.

If a criminal re-offends, it might warrant a death penalty. I guess I should flesh it out a bit more... Ok, here you go:

After serving the required sentence (i.e. appx. 20-40yrs for murder, 15 yrs for armed robbery/GBH etc, and 1-10yrs for less serious offences) a criminal would be released. He would of course have been rehabilitated, and tought how to behave in society. If he breaks these rules again, he will be subject to more jailtime.

Ultimately, for a multiple offender, either lifelong imprisonment or the death penalty would result.
You're all over the place. You cannot call it "euthanasia" (i.e assisted suicide) if you're making it mandatory, against the subject's will. It is the death penalty dressed up in slightly less sinister terms, with the same result.
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(Original post by Celtic_Anthony)
You're all over the place. You cannot call it "euthanasia" (i.e assisted suicide) if you're making it mandatory, against the subject's will. It is the death penalty dressed up in slightly less sinister terms, with the same result.
Hmm. Guess I must have gotten some confusion over the meaning of that term. Very well, I'll edit my posts, until I can formulate a more together idea regarding this.

Let me say that I do support Assisted Suicide, however.
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6 million Jews didn't die in the holocaust. Actually, barely a million, if that.

Although its not really controversial or a view; since it is actually a fact. If people could be bothered to do the research they'd realise it too.
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(Original post by joanna-eve)
I think that Milliband will be good for us.
But he betrayed his brother and ran for Leader of Labour :eek: a man that does that will never be good for the country. I hope you know that by voting for Labour you will screw up the deficit, make this poor country a welfare state once more (I know it still is now but hopefully it won't be for much longer) and be a socialist?

Socialism is bad! Privatisation plus low taxes and little welfare is good! (unless you're poor, but it may give incentive to do something than be on benefits )

On topic, I don't know... possibly some of the above plus the fact I support the torture, shooting, death penalty for peadophiles?
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I loathe Harry Potter.
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I once watched 2 girls 1 cup...That was pretty horrific to view.
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I don't believe in ivf and think if you can't have kids then you shouldn't be helped out. Your falwty genes are weakening the human race!
That's horrible!

I don't believe in IVF because of all the young people who are unwanted and in care homes and as such should be helped out first. Once everyone has a home then is the time that IVF should be used...
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Economic and cultural imperialism should never be allowed to masquerade as the celebrated history of an empire.

There is no such thing as progress.
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That's horrible!

I don't believe in IVF because of all the young people who are unwanted and in care homes and as such should be helped out first. Once everyone has a home then is the time that IVF should be used...
Fair point. I also worry about all the children in care as well. Ive thought a lot about this comment since I posted it and realise that it's easy for me to say this as I already have a daughter. So I don't feel in the slightest bit proud about this thought that i have, but I can't totally reject it.
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(Original post by joanna-eve)
Capitalism is only good if you're rich.
No, it gives poor people motivation to work hard to become better off, the current system just gives people no incentive... hence why we are in the pile of **** we are right now
(Original post by joanna-eve)
I've never been rich and possibly never will be.
This is what Labour has done, made you think you'll never be wealthy... the Tories will make you work hard thus more of a chance of becoming successful than if you were on benefits under Labour.
(Original post by joanna-eve)
I would happily share someone else's wealth ^^
Communist.
(Original post by joanna-eve)
All politicians betray each other daily and betray teh country too. One brother is nothing major
Oh that is one thing but you never betray family....
(Original post by joanna-eve)
And Labour seem to be the best of a bag of bad at the moment. As I said before, the lib dems and tories have done sod all except make my life harder.
You only like Labour because they will give you an easier time and not force you too work and will let you lie on benefits for as long as you like.

The Tories are going to make you work for your money which is why you think they are bad.

All in all... Tories will make our meager country great again.
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No, it gives poor people motivation to work hard to become better off, the current system just gives people no incentive... hence why we are in the pile of **** we are right now

This is what Labour has done, made you think you'll never be wealthy... the Tories will make you work hard thus more of a chance of becoming successful than if you were on benefits under Labour.

Communist.

Oh that is one thing but you never betray family....

You only like Labour because they will give you an easier time and not force you too work and will let you lie on benefits for as long as you like.

The Tories are going to make you work for your money which is why you think they are bad.

All in all... Tories will make our meager country great again.
I'm not saying that we should be given benefits, in fact I think benefits should be cut. Do you honestly agree with every single thing that the tories say? Benefits is one thing I disagree with labour on.
I actually think that I will never be wealthy because I want to go to uni then work in the civil service, which will never pay me enough to pay off my student debts.
Is it really betraying family? Did he do it ot of spite? Or did he do it to achieve his own dream hmm? And besides, communism is a brilliant idea. It's just a shame it doesn't work in reality.
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(Original post by joanna-eve)
I'm not saying that we should be given benefits, in fact I think benefits should be cut. Do you honestly agree with every single thing that the tories say? Benefits is one thing I disagree with labour on.
I actually think that I will never be wealthy because I want to go to uni then work in the civil service, which will never pay me enough to pay off my student debts.
Is it really betraying family? Did he do it ot of spite? Or did he do it to achieve his own dream hmm? And besides, communism is a brilliant idea. It's just a shame it doesn't work in reality.
Shouldn't an idea have to actually work for it to be considered brilliant?
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Shouldn't an idea have to actually work for it to be considered brilliant?
Fine, it's theoretically brilliant. Same as magic and fast food.
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(Original post by joanna-eve)
Fine, it's theoretically brilliant. Same as magic and fast food.
Sounds like a consolation prize to me.

And fast food isn't even theoretically brilliant.
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(Original post by j.alexanderh)
Sounds like a consolation prize to me.

And fast food isn't even theoretically brilliant.
It is quite brilliant in reality though :drool:
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(Original post by j.alexanderh)
Sounds like a consolation prize to me.

And fast food isn't even theoretically brilliant.
Well, don't you think the idea of having food almost instantly available, for not a lot of money, is a good idea? It does that, but doesn't really take into account good taste or nutritional value.
I don't get what you mean by a consolation prize?
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What exactly causes you to equate 'intelligent' and 'benevolent'? Merely calling a dictatorship benevolent does not make it so, any more than the 'D' in 'DPRK' is true, especially when resistance means death.
I’m not equating anything im just saying only intelligent and benevolent people should rule. I’m not saying that’s my decision as to what that is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rep..._of_government

He said the best form of government is dictatorship and I believe that. I know of and have an interest in the DPRK and that’s one evil place. Just because people like to have democratic freedom does not equate to it being correct. If the only logical action to save that benevolent dictatorship was death then I support it. As for the DPRK my vision would be clearly open for the people to see I wouldn’t be calling it democracy. I would love to see this nation over thrown and in its place a non democratic intelligent kind government and if that means I have less so called civil freedoms cool.
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(Original post by joanna-eve)
Well, don't you think the idea of having food almost instantly available, for not a lot of money, is a good idea? It does that, but doesn't really take into account good taste or nutritional value.
I don't get what you mean by a consolation prize?
1) I don't think having quickly available ultra-cheap food is a particularaly good idea: you get what you pay for. Unless there is some major development in food production which allows high quality food to be made as efficiently as a crappy burger, I'll stick to real food.

2) I was joking about the consolataion prize. Don't worry about it.
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(Original post by joanna-eve)
I'm not saying that we should be given benefits, in fact I think benefits should be cut.
Good.
(Original post by joanna-eve)
Do you honestly agree with every single thing that the tories say?
No I think they are too liberal.
(Original post by joanna-eve)
I actually think that I will never be wealthy because I want to go to uni then work in the civil service, which will never pay me enough to pay off my student debts.
And people wonder why this country is in a state... it is people taking out a loan that they will never pay back but the government pays off, this is you.
(Original post by joanna-eve)
Is it really betraying family? Did he do it ot of spite? Or did he do it to achieve his own dream hmm?
Family is family, Ed stabbed David basically.
(Original post by joanna-eve)
And besides, communism is a brilliant idea. It's just a shame it doesn't work in reality.
Communism is not a good idea, it shares wealth... wealth I'd rather not share outside my family (Parents and Children). But I will gladly give to help a family out in the UK if they need it and are not one of those Labour benefit lovers.
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