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    (Original post by AreebWithaHat)
    You should have married zyzz. You would have made a great couple seriously.
    ZYZZ actually became very misogynistic after he bulked up and started getting attention from girls.

    I think that he became very bitter due to that. So he ended up trolling women.
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    (Original post by Collette94)
    Thanks Yeah, obviously some people are going to be born with traits generally considered more attractive, but most people could work on their attractiveness, even if they're not considered "natural beauties" or thought of as "born unattractive." A lot of it comes down to effort.

    Look at a lot of "hot" sportsmen/women after they quit and no longer take care of their health, their looks absolutely go down the drain after they put on too much weight and if they start drinking heavily and whatnot. Similarly, I dare anyone who thinks they're not attractive to work on their figure/hair/skin/style etc. and then still say they're as "unattractive" as they were before.

    Also, this is just physical attractiveness, which isn't all it comes down to, obviously.
    totally agree with you babe, but can you post some tips on healthy eating habits etc instead of directing people to Google lol
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    (Original post by james1211)
    There's not a post in this thread that I agree with more.

    All the best things in my life have happened with a great pinch of chance added to them. Yeah you can improve your chances, but ultimately, that's what it is, chance. You can't make yourself attracted to someone, and you can't make someone attracted to you. They either are, or they aren't. You can do all sorts of things to increase the amount of men/women you meet but once you meet them, I'd say it's mostly down to random probability as to whether you're going to gel in the right way or not.

    There are plenty attractive, successful, rich, fit and healthy people with amazing social skills on this planet, but do they all want to bang each other the moment they meet one another? Nope. Because they either do or don't see each other in that way.

    Similarly there are many below average, poor, unhealthy socially nervous people that are in relationships, so it must stand to reason that many of these qualities are not really the major influence in whether you'll be successful in finding a partner.
    You get it!
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    (Original post by Collette94)
    But improving your chances still increases the "random probability?"

    Obviously it's not guaranteed that doing all this will get you a partner. Same way as studying hard doesn't guarantee you A's or higher at A level. But it helps.
    I'm not denying it helps. But increasing the odds of winning a bet doesn't mean you're going to win it, and that's what I mean. You can do so much, but ultimately, luck might just not be on your side with the object of your affections.
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    (Original post by Harley)
    Facially. Figures can be changed by exercise or eating better. Using myself as an example, I wear makeup every day, I wear my hair in a style that suits my face but I still get no interest from guys because none of this changes my features, my nose will still be too big, I'll still have an odd shaped mouth and jaw and an overbite and a gap in my front teeth (and I can't afford some sort of procedure to fix this)
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    Just took a look at your pics on your profile (sorry, I know, stalkerish ) and you don't look half as bad as you say you do?

    One thing I definitely think you could change is your hair, though. It suits your facial shape and is trendy-looking, but long hair makes a ton of difference. A lot of guys (almost most, I'd say) look at short hair and think "lesbian" or "unattractive" just because it seems that way, it's shallow as hell but unfortunately short hair on a girl seems to be stereotyped to no end from my experience. Ofc it's up to you, but shoulder length at least seems to be what most guys prefer. If it takes ages to grow out, there are a few products I've used that help it grow faster and don't cost the earth either.

    Can post a long style I think would suit if you like. I think you'd look good with a fringe, too, but the current one is too big. Also, is it red right now or highlighted? (Don't do too much highlighting, it looks a bit unnatural. Red looks better but I would go for a darker red).

    You have really pretty eyes but your eyebrows could maybe do with a bit of thickening, use more pencil? You don't need them really bold as you have a feminine facial shape, but they make a huge difference, and at the moment they don't balance out your features enough.

    A gap in your teeth doesn't automatically make you unattractive, look at Georgia May Jagger (smile with your mouth closed if it bothers you that much? I dunno, my friend had braces and she used to). I can't tell if you're wearing lip pencil or not, but if you wear that on the upper lip especially then it will give them a much fuller look. There are tons of YouTube tutorials as to how get fuller looking lips, do them on yours and they'll at least look "normal sized".

    You don't say how you dress but I could probably give some tips there too if you want?

    (Sorry, I love helping out people with beauty and fashion as you can probably tell. Hope at least some of it helps, though )
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    (Original post by Maths&cheesecake)
    totally agree with you babe, but can you post some tips on healthy eating habits etc instead of directing people to Google lol
    If people don't have the self-discipline required to spend 10 seconds typing out something on Google and click on the first few links, they certainly won't have the self-discipline to ditch the crap food IMO.
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    (Original post by aspirinpharmacist)
    I'm not denying it helps. But increasing the odds of winning a bet doesn't mean you're going to win it, and that's what I mean. You can do so much, but ultimately, luck might just not be on your side with the object of your affections.
    Yes but I never said it did... This isn't a guide as to how to get any one particular person. Just to improve your chances with people generally. It may even hurt your chances with select people. Like, if a particular guy prefers overweight girls and you are like that but then slim down and lose weight, obviously he'll find you less attractive. But the majority of guys will find you more so.
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    (Original post by Collette94)
    But improving your chances still increases the "random probability?"

    Obviously it's not guaranteed that doing all this will get you a partner. Same way as studying hard doesn't guarantee you A's or higher at A level. But it helps.
    Agreed, there is no harm in improving your chances, but your original post looks like it aims to solve a problem, which it ultimately won't. I'd say the degree by which these changes improve your chances is a lot lot lower than you'd think.

    Ten years ago I was a wreck, I had no friends, never went out at all, could barely speak to people of either gender, I was unhealthy, dressed very poorly and didn't achieve highly in school.

    Now I've worked for ten years to improve that and I went to a good university, go out several times a week with multiple friendship groups, I'm healthy and fit because I cycle 70km every weekend for 4 years, I'm confident, dress well and take care of my appearance and I'd say I'm attractive enough now, but I still don't get much female attention because of whatever reason.

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    (Original post by james1211)
    Agreed, there is no harm in improving your chances, but your original post looks like it aims to solve a problem, which it ultimately won't. I'd say the degree by which these changes improve your chances is a lot lot lower than you'd think.

    Ten years ago I was a wreck, I had no friends, never went out at all, could barely speak to people of either gender, I was unhealthy, dressed very poorly and didn't achieve highly in school.

    Now I've worked for ten years to improve that and I went to a good university, go out several times a week with multiple friendship groups, I'm healthy and fit because I cycle 70km every weekend for 4 years, I'm confident, dress well and take care of my appearance and I'd say I'm attractive enough now, but I still don't get much female attention because of whatever reason.

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    You don't say what you're looking for. Is it a relationship or just some casual stuff? Or both?

    If it's the former, I presume you know some single girls you fancy? Try hitting on them (If you don't know any, socialise some more - as in, broaden your friendship group by taking up more hobbies. Clubs are not a great place to find a long-term partner TBH). What are your hobbies?

    If it's the latter, and you go out regularly, be more confident and be the one to do the approaching. There is a general societal expectation (call it sexist if you will) that guys are the ones who chase. Especially in clubs. You don't need to read a book to know how to do this, just try making eye contact with and smiling at girls, and if they smile back go over and say hi. Move onto possibly dancing with her and asking for her number or if she wants to go back to yours. Pretty much the same way you would make a new friend at a party where you didn't know many people.
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    (Original post by james1211)
    Agreed, there is no harm in improving your chances, but your original post looks like it aims to solve a problem, which it ultimately won't. I'd say the degree by which these changes improve your chances is a lot lot lower than you'd think.

    Ten years ago I was a wreck, I had no friends, never went out at all, could barely speak to people of either gender, I was unhealthy, dressed very poorly and didn't achieve highly in school.

    Now I've worked for ten years to improve that and I went to a good university, go out several times a week with multiple friendship groups, I'm healthy and fit because I cycle 70km every weekend for 4 years, I'm confident, dress well and take care of my appearance and I'd say I'm attractive enough now, but I still don't get much female attention because of whatever reason.

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    Most guys don't "get much female attention"- you give females attention. I imagine that's the problem.
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    (Original post by Collette94)
    You don't say what you're looking for. Is it a relationship or just some casual stuff? Or both?

    If it's the former, I presume you know some single girls you fancy? Try hitting on them (If you don't know any, socialise some more - as in, broaden your friendship group by taking up more hobbies. Clubs are not a great place to find a long-term partner TBH). What are your hobbies?

    If it's the latter, and you go out regularly, be more confident and be the one to do the approaching. There is a general societal expectation (call it sexist if you will) that guys are the ones who chase. Especially in clubs. You don't need to read a book to know how to do this, just try making eye contact with and smiling at girls, and if they smile back go over and say hi. Move onto possibly dancing with her and asking for her number or if she wants to go back to yours. Pretty much the same way you would make a new friend at a party where you didn't know many people.
    I know, I don't even like clubs.

    For the record I play snooker in a hall several times a week, I go to a pub quiz every Wednesday evening, I cycle on a Saturday and play badminton with 4 people on a Sunday. I have a 9 to 5 job this year where I attend social gatherings as part of my professions regional development program which are just get togethers.

    You were right, I'm looking for the former.

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    (Original post by james1211)
    I know, I don't even like clubs.

    For the record I play snooker in a hall several times a week, I go to a pub quiz every Wednesday evening, I cycle on a Saturday and play badminton with 4 people on a Sunday. I have a 9 to 5 job this year where I attend social gatherings as part of my professions regional development program which are just get togethers.

    You were right, I'm looking for the former.

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    How many of these places are you regularly meeting new people you might be interested in at? I doubt there are many women at snooker, and cycling sounds solitary/like it has the same people turning up every week? (You already say badminton is with 4 people, is it always the same 4?) Pub quizzes aren't ideal for meeting people in my experience, you usually have the same people attending again and not many girls of our age group will necessarily be there. The social gatherings sound OK, but it might look out of order if you hit on someone there. So your social life is OK, but it seems a bit limiting if you're looking for a girlfriend.

    Are you part of any uni clubs or societies? The one for your course at least? How many of your female coursemates do you know? Or people who were in your hall in first year?

    Do you have Facebook so you can stay up to date on social events going on at uni? (Not just going out but general stuff in societies etc.)

    To ask again, how many single female friends do you have who you actually find attractive? It sounds like the problem might be lack of female friends after all.
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    (Original post by Hellz_Bellz!)
    It shouldn't be people's goal in life to be attractive to the opposite sex. People shouldn't strive to obtain a fit, muscular body shape to attract the opposite sex. People certainly shouldn't do a particular hobby to attract the opposite sex.

    Some people love exercise, others hate it. Some people like eating food, some people love it. Some people spend their whole lives reading, others find it a waste of time.

    Don't tell people how to live their lives. Not everyone is so shallow that they only find one type of person attractive.

    And do you know how boring that would be anyway?
    Isn't that what you're doing?
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    (Original post by Collette94)
    How many of these places are you regularly meeting new people you might be interested in at? I doubt there are many women at snooker, and cycling sounds solitary/like it has the same people turning up every week? (You already say badminton is with 4 people, is it always the same 4?) Pub quizzes aren't ideal for meeting people in my experience, you usually have the same people attending again and not many girls of our age group will necessarily be there. The social gatherings sound OK, but it might look out of order if you hit on someone there. So your social life is OK, but it seems a bit limiting if you're looking for a girlfriend.

    Are you part of any uni clubs or societies? The one for your course at least? How many of your female coursemates do you know? Or people who were in your hall in first year?

    Do you have Facebook so you can stay up to date on social events going on at uni?
    These are the things I enjoy doing, and as im working a professional job in the city I dont really have time to do extra stuff on top. I shouldn't be having to sack off meeting my long term friends doing hobbies I enjoy to spend time looking for a girlfriend, life is too short. For the record, I was in a relationship 2.5 years ago which lasted ten months and I wasn't even looking for one at the time.

    Oh and I have no female coursemates, I'm a student of Building Surveying. Most of my friends friends aren't single either although i'm aware this is a good way to meet people.
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    (Original post by Mankytoes)
    Most guys don't "get much female attention"- you give females attention. I imagine that's the problem.
    Ah, societies last socially acceptable gender role.

    Tell a woman she can't be a fireman and there's hell on. Tell a man he has to approach women and not vice versa and nobody bats an eyelid.
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    (Original post by james1211)
    These are the things I enjoy doing, and as im working a professional job in the city I dont really have time to do extra stuff on top. I shouldn't be having to sack off meeting my long term friends doing hobbies I enjoy to spend time looking for a girlfriend, life is too short. For the record, I was in a relationship 2.5 years ago which lasted ten months and I wasn't even looking for one at the time.

    Oh and I have no female coursemates, I'm a student of Building Surveying. Most of my friends friends aren't single either although i'm aware this is a good way to meet people.
    Wait, so how many (even passably attractive) female friends do you have who are single/might be? You still don't say. :/
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    (Original post by Collette94)
    Wait, so how many (even passably attractive) female friends do you have who are single/might be? You still don't say. :/
    Well you didn't ask first of all, and secondly I haven't exactly counted

    I don't have a high amount of female friends compared to male, but what does that matter? They're my friends, i'm hardly going to hit on them
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    (Original post by james1211)
    Well you didn't ask first of all, and secondly I haven't exactly counted

    I don't have a high amount of female friends compared to male, but what does that matter? They're my friends, i'm hardly going to hit on them
    Erm.. you do realise that the best way of finding a long-term relationship with a girl you like is to ask out someone you already know, right? :unsure:

    I mean, how else did you intend to do it? Ask out a random stranger at a club or bar? I suppose you could try online dating/speed dating if that's your cup of tea...
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    (Original post by james1211)
    Well you didn't ask first of all, and secondly I haven't exactly counted

    I don't have a high amount of female friends compared to male, but what does that matter? They're my friends, i'm hardly going to hit on them
    Erm.. you do realise that the best way of finding a long-term relationship with a girl you like is to ask out someone you already know, right? :unsure:

    I mean, how else did you intend to do it? Ask out a random stranger at a club or bar? I suppose you could try online dating/speed dating if that's your cup of tea...
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    (Original post by Collette94)
    Erm.. you do realise that the best way of finding a long-term relationship with a girl you like is to ask out someone you already know, right? :unsure:

    I mean, how else did you intend to do it? Ask out a random stranger at a club or bar? I suppose you could try online dating/speed dating if that's your cup of tea...
    Are you on planet mars? I'm not gonna ask out girls i've known for years, I would have done that long ago if I was attracted to them in that way, why would they be my friends if i'd wanted a relationship with them?

    I'm not trying to shag the closest thing that moves you know

    I intend to do it like 90% of the rest of the population, when I meet someone i'm attracted to in that way i'll take it from there.
 
 
 
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