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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
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    (Original post by ProudEnglishman)
    Don't put quotation marks around “Brit” as if we don't exist. Other than that, I don't know why any Englishman would think any less of you because you're a Dutchman. They seemingly forget that the Anglo-Saxons were from the same Germanic stock as the Dutch, as were the Normans and the Norse. So you are more than welcome here provided you show respect to the fatherland, us Britons, and so on.

    I've never known an Englander to think England still a “superpower”; if anything, those of us who still allocate time for thinking lament its former glorious state. With regards to languages, many English will never leave Britain for more than a holiday, so why ought they to go to the effort of learning a new language? To learn a new language properly, they'd have to learn how grammar works, linguistics; and if they cannot understand the grammar and etymological history of their own language, how would they cope? It'd be a pointless exercise. And besides, English has become the new Latin: so many people internationally with whom one would be likely to speak (so not in some slums somewhere or in the Amazonian rainforest), they speak English, thus further making learning other languages for the ordinary English fellow completely and utterly pointless. I, as somewhat of a linguist, however, do enjoy looking into other languages, and I also have quite a bit of spare time on my hands with me being at college. Not to mention that French, Spanish and German are taught across England in schools, so to say that there is not opportunity to learn another language is pure tripe; if people want to learn a new language, tell them to make use of the internet or a book-store after learning the mechanisms behind their vernacular first.

    You must be in Yorkshire or somewhere likewise further North for Lancashire is quite plentiful in its die-versity, and we constantly have it shoved down our throats via the miseducation-system and the lamestream-media. So we are more than acquainted with the fifty shades of foreigner, thank you. And if you think we don't have folk from other lands “flowing freely” into this land, then you are blind to the lack of immigration-regulation in this country; there are many areas throughout this once pleasant land in which one would be lucky to find a single Englishman (Boltonistan and many parts of Londonistan come to mind).

    The quotation marks were meant as I consider "Brit" a colloquialism of British person.
    As an English person, I doubt that you would notice yourself (or more likely other people), thinking less of those of another culture (I imagine that if I do this, I wouldn't notice this). Also, I'm not saying that everyone does this; due to your being here, I am assuming that you are of average or above intelligence, and with that, often comes a certain understanding and tolerance of other cultures, so therefore I doubt that you would be one of the people that does this.
    As for the learning of languages, I'd say that most people around the world would leave their country for any reason other than holiday, so in terms of that, England isn't exclusively the only one.
    You mentioned that nobody in England thinks of their country as a superpower, yet why then do a large amount of people the world over also learn English? And why do the English still expect them to learn a foreign language? So perhaps you don't think of England as a superpower, but the connotations of it are still very firmly there.
    I took French for 8 years (A* at GCSE), but yet I can barely enough French to order an icecream or ask for directions to the cinema, yet my family in the Netherlands go to courses at Uni taught in English. My school does not offer German as a language, but I know a handful of people who are doing German at A2 level, and still I can speak German better than them...
    Yorkshire? North? Bah, go back to your Surrey mansion you lowland land lover! I live in the real North, where I am one of three pupils who'm do not have an English passport, one of three of whose first language in not English, all that in a school of 1000 pupils (that would amount to 99.7% of population being English).
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    (Original post by JulianRothschild)
    What do you categorise as being allowed in Britain? Is Natalie Portman allowed? is Nikolas Tesla allowed?

    To me Tesla is more superior than a majority of English natives. He actually achieved something for humanity. To further provoke your mind, in the current and evident future, the feudal system is a thing of the past. Superiority of an individual is measured by monetary wealth and entrepreneurship, rather than a particular country.

    My apologies if this hurts your perceived view on 'superiority' but unless you are somehow wealthy, you to me are nothing but a walking dictionary.

    All the best,

    Julian
    Those allowed to remain in Britain are the indigenous folk and the non-indigenous, contributive, law-abiding Europeans already present. Natalie Portman is a semitic profligate and thus would be evicted. Nikolas Tesla would be welcomed with open arms and declared the king.

    When have I ever spoken of the English being “superior”? I have not. I have spoke only of them being my people and not necessarily superior to other peoples.

    And if all you care about is a man's wealth, then you are truly poor, capitalist scum. You certainly live up to your surname, Rothschild.
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    (Original post by ProudEnglishman)
    Those allowed to remain in Britain are the indigenous folk and the non-indigenous, contributive, law-abiding Europeans already present. Natalie Portman is a semitic profligate and thus would be evicted. Nikolas Tesla would be welcomed with open arms and declared the king.

    When have I ever spoken of the English being “superior”? I have not. I have spoke only of them being my people and not necessarily superior to other peoples.

    And if all you care about is a man's wealth, then you are truly poor, capitalist scum. You certainly live up to your surname, Rothschild.
    Wealth equals freedom.

    Nikolas Tesla would not have been welcomed with open arms, as at that specific stage in his life, he would not be the famous 'Nikolas Tesla'. He would have been viewed an immigrant by the natives.

    Why do you think he chose to immigrate to America?

    Anyway. This thread is pointless. Close it.
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    (Original post by ProudEnglishman)
    And if all you care about is a man's wealth, then you are truly poor, capitalist scum. You certainly live up to your surname, Rothschild.
    Oh dear, it would appear we have someone hear that also believes in the Illuminati theories...
    I'm not going to say I've had dealings with the Rothschilds (that would sound much to secretive and make me seem much more important than I am), but I have talked to several Rothschilds, and I can tell you now that what you claim they are is not true, in fact, I'd say they are the very opposite.
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    The quotation marks were meant as I consider "Brit" a colloquialism of British person.
    As an English person, I doubt that you would notice yourself (or more likely other people), thinking less of those of another culture (I imagine that if I do this, I wouldn't notice this). Also, I'm not saying that everyone does this; due to your being here, I am assuming that you are of average or above intelligence, and with that, often comes a certain understanding and tolerance of other cultures, so therefore I doubt that you would be one of the people that does this.
    As for the learning of languages, I'd say that most people around the world would leave their country for any reason other than holiday, so in terms of that, England isn't exclusively the only one.
    You mentioned that nobody in England thinks of their country as a superpower, yet why then do a large amount of people the world over also learn English? And why do the English still expect them to learn a foreign language? So perhaps you don't think of England as a superpower, but the connotations of it are still very firmly there.
    I took French for 8 years (A* at GCSE), but yet I can barely enough French to order an icecream or ask for directions to the cinema, yet my family in the Netherlands go to courses at Uni taught in English. My school does not offer German as a language, but I know a handful of people who are doing German at A2 level, and still I can speak German better than them...
    Yorkshire? North? Bah, go back to your Surrey mansion you lowland land lover! I live in the real North, where I am one of three pupils who'm do not have an English passport, one of three of whose first language in not English, all that in a school of 1000 pupils (that would amount to 99.7% of population being English).
    Just use the word “Briton” then. We are free to think what we want of other cultures, just as we are everything else; going out of one's way, however, to offend others is completely illogical. There is a difference between being “tolerant” of other cultures when we come into contact with them seldom, and opposing having them rammed down our throats to the point at which our own indigenous culture is displaced by these foreign ones along with the artificial, rootless, consumeristic, hedonistic culture of modernity.

    To quote a great Englishman:


    I suspect that English is so widely spoken internationally due to it being the language that most Americans speak, and most members of the Anglosphere as a whole, and the fact that the world is being Americanised (think of the spread of Latin). So it is nought to do with England somehow still being a “superpower” nor whether we think we are still or not.

    I most certainly do not expect non-English folk outside of England to learn English; quite simply, I would not be able to speak with them otherwise which is perfectly fine with me. For every Russian, for example, who can barely speak English, do you suppose I weep in the absence of such capability? I do not. There are plenty of English speakers, such as yourself, with whom to converse; and, of course, plenty of English folk with whom to converse.

    Explain to me why the ordinary working-class English man or woman needs to learn other languages if all they will ever be is a citizen of Britain? It is simply illogical to ask it of them; they'd tell you to piss off, and they'd then precede to resume their daily-dose of Coronation Street or Eastenders.

    Where is this “real North” then? Also, stop saying “who'm”; in the context in which you used this, it ought to have been “who”. “who'm” is not a word; “whom”, however, is, but would have been incorrect within that grammatical context .
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    (Original post by JulianRothschild)
    Wealth equals freedom.

    Nikolas Tesla would not have been welcomed with open arms, as at that specific stage in his life, he would not be the famous 'Nikolas Tesla'. He would have been viewed an immigrant by the natives.

    Why do you think he chose to immigrate to America?

    Anyway. This thread is pointless. Close it.
    One only needs a certain amount of wealth and the correct worldview to achieve freedom. If Tesla was not of any use to the natives at the time when he would have supposedly sought to come here, then I see no reason why he'd need to be let in. If he came as someone of prestige at that time, then fair enough. Although, as a fellow European, I cannot imagine he'd have much of a problem assimilating nor would he introduce any deviation to the genepool.
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    Why will someone have a go at you. Can't they see your pretty .
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    (Original post by ProudEnglishman)
    Yes.
    You are a disgrace to this great nation.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    I don't need it but thanks anyway
    Lol.

    Always need to have the last word.
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    (Original post by DiddyDec)
    You are a disgrace to this great nation.
    This nation is a mere murky shadow of its former, greater self. And as I said to someone else: by whose veritable authority am I a “disgrace to this great nation”?
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    (Original post by ProudEnglishman)
    This nation is a mere murky shadow of its former, greater self. And as I said to someone else: by whose veritable authority am I a “disgrace to this great nation”?
    My own opinion.
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    (Original post by ProudEnglishman)
    This nation is a mere murky shadow of its former, greater self. And as I said to someone else: by whose veritable authority am I a “disgrace to this great nation”?
    I cant tell if you're a troll or just very racist....I just looked you up and you're taking ur a2s...ur 17/18 and ur spouting these views already:eek: what are you going to be like when u become an adult....

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    (Original post by DiddyDec)
    My own opinion.
    I, of course, disagree, but fair enough.
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    I cant tell if you're a troll or just very racist....I just looked you up and you're taking ur a2s...ur 17/18 and ur spouting these views already:eek: what are you going to be like when u become an adult....

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    (Original post by ProudEnglishman)
    This if all goes well:
    An enoch powell in our midst...how interesting.
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    (Original post by DorianGrayism)
    Lol.

    Always need to have the last word.
    Always,Oscar
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    (Original post by ProudEnglishman)
    This if all goes well:

    Let's be reality here, you're most likely some inbred looking town dweller that believes in the one drop of minority blood rule. Secretly, you feel threatened and underneath the superiority complex you unconsciously feel inferior about your inferior aesthetics. It's ok though mate, people are sympathetic towards the inbred. It's not your fault you most likely look a bit weird.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    So today,I went out to the pharmacy to get some essentials etc and as I was walking back home I came across two guys who seemed to look normal at first sight. One of them then just suddenly came up to me and started asking questions about where i'm from and then went on to insult my background after I told him I was part middle eastern and part italian. He also blamed 'my people' for the Paris attack today and was rambling on and on,bearing in my mind this was in a shop and everyone could hear and see the harsh racist comments he was making. He said stuff like 'oh you will never be british,no matter what you or you people do to try to fit in'...
    so after I left the store and got home, I started thinking further about what he was saying. I mean I may have been born here but I don't even feel british at all! I've never dated a fully british guy for this reason I guess. I mean, I follow a similar culture(drinking,partying,how I dress etc) but will ethnic minorities ever be accepted into british society?! Do those on this forum who were born into ethnic families feel like they are accepted or do you still feel like an outsider?
    heyy, i have a similar background to you and tbh nothing like this has ever happened to me, I'm a boy so if things like this ever happened to me, i know i'd get crazy being the fool i am. but, ur a girl(seem like a pretty one too), like y would they say stuff like that? thats ridiculous, i would have expected them to try and chat u up instead of talking s*** like that. listen, don't ever fall into the trap of u needing to date a british/english guy to feel or be british. have a relationship with whoever, they ain't gotta be white. you're british by paper but middle eastern/italian by nature. nowadays, this whole 'racism' thing is kept quiet, but back in the day it was a whole different story, people were mad. racism will never EVER fade away, people will always have it on their mind but won't say it, but some do....as you experienced. see that, there bringing up anything to try and violate...lol and you want a british BF. Just the other day i saw a couple (a white man and an indian lady) they were in a parking lot and were going to drive into their space when another man(who was indian) had made it into the space by overtaking them, the white man jumps out of his car and asks him to get out, the indian man refuses and the white man says: ''stupid indian, go back to where u came from''.....how ironic when his wife is indian too?? see do u get the picture now...

    answering your last question, i feel i am more accepted in society than way back in the day, i'm thankful i wasn't around then, but there are times where i do feel like an outsider....u just gotta live with it...some crazy ppl in this world...
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    (Original post by Tom_Ford)
    Let's be reality here, you're most likely some inbred looking town dweller that believes in the one drop of minority blood rule. Secretly, you feel threatened and underneath the superiority complex you unconsciously feel inferior about your inferior aesthetics. It's ok though mate, people are sympathetic towards the inbred. It's not your fault you most likely look a bit weird.
    Your response made me laugh
 
 
 
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