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    Okay, so I measured my body fat percentage and it's 24%. I don't know much about body fat percentages so does anyone on here know if that's good or bad?
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    BMI is very widely used by the medical profession in the UK. That is a fact but I'm not going to get into a yes it is, no it isn't childish argument with you. If you admit that it's used by the NHS even as a rough guide then you don't have much of a case. My BMI is 19.8 and to be a healthy weight your BMI needs to be between 18.5 and 25 so my BMI is much closer to underweight than overweight. Your argument would only work if my BMI was close to overweight. As I have said, I am a size 8, I am 8 stone, my BMI is 19.8 and my measurements are Bust: 36, Waist: 26, Hips: 35 and I cannot see how any of that makes me overweight or fat. I would also say that for some conditions alternative medicine can actually work well but I'm not going to debate the pros and cons of alternative versus conventional medicine with you. Bone density still can affect BMI though although not as much as muscle mass. I'm not complaining about you giving your opinion in itself, what I'm objecting to is both the insulting was that you are putting it across and also your lack of understanding of the fact that I am definitely not anywhere close to medically overweight.
    I don't consider the NHS an authority considering they funneled millions of pounds into homeopathy and a large portion of their doctors are themselves obese.

    I go by what my eyes tell me and I know what I consider looks chubby in my eyes and I have explained how that translates size-wise. You may not like it and it might conflict with what the medical industry might tell you.

    Perhaps you are conflating slim with healthy. You might be a healthy weight and not about to collapse of cardiac arrest, but I don't consider it to be slim or attractive in my opinion.
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    I don't consider the NHS an authority considering they funneled millions of pounds into homeopathy and a large portion of their doctors are themselves obese.

    I go by what my eyes tell me and I know what I consider looks chubby in my eyes and I have explained how that translates size-wise. You may not like it and it might conflict with what the medical industry might tell you.

    Perhaps you are conflating slim with healthy. You might be a healthy weight and not about to collapse of cardiac arrest, but I don't consider it to be slim or attractive in my opinion.
    The NHS spends £4 million a year on homeopathy. The overall NHS budget for 2015/16 was £116.4 billion so it doesn't exactly spend a huge amount on homeopathy. Also, as I said homeopathy can work well for some conditions so the money spent on homeopathy is not wasted. I agree that it is a problem that such a large proportion of NHS doctors are obese but they are still going to be focussed on the health of the patients whether they themselves are obese or not.
    At one point, I had a BMI of 17, I was smaller than a UK size 4/US size 0 and I was very underweight but even then I didn't consider size 8 girls to be fat. I am thinking of both being slim and being healthy. I am at the low end of a healthy weight and yet you still say that I'm "fat". Fat is not healthy; fat should mean overweight. I know I'm not really skinny like I used to be anymore and believe me I often wish I still was, especially after some of the comments on here, but the weight I used to be was actually unhealthily underweight and girls shouldn't have to be that size in order to be attractive. So, you think you know better than the medical industry?

    I suppose I should be grateful that even you will concede that at 8 stone with a BMI of 19.8 I'm not likely to collapse of cardiac arrest due to being so incredibly fat... As to your version of being slim or fat, can you post some pictures from the internet of girls that you would consider slim and fat so that I can see exactly what you mean?
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    Okay, so I measured my body fat percentage and it's 24%. I don't know much about body fat percentages so does anyone on here know if that's good or bad?
    I swear u posted a similiar thread before
    I'm 5ft 11 and my size 10/12 bottom
    6/8 top
    everyone is perfect
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    I swear u posted a similiar thread before
    I'm 5ft 11 and my size 10/12 bottom
    6/8 top
    everyone is perfect
    No, actually I didn't. This is the only thread I have posted on this subject I promise. If you mean the thread about is size 8 chubby for someone who is 5"2 that wasn't me but I did see it. The girl who posted that is slightly shorter than me, a few years older and has and eating disorder which I don't so that is definitely not me but I can see what you mean cause it is similar.

    Yeah, I'm sure you're right really. It's just hard with the general pressure for women to be skinny and some of the comments on here not to feel insecure about my weight. People on here make me feel so fat. I know it's ridiculous really but it's difficult not to worry about it and take it to heart.
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    The NHS spends £4 million a year on homeopathy. The overall NHS budget for 2015/16 was £116.4 billion so it doesn't exactly spend a huge amount on homeopathy. Also, as I said homeopathy can work well for some conditions so the money spent on homeopathy is not wasted. I agree that it is a problem that such a large proportion of NHS doctors are obese but they are still going to be focussed on the health of the patients whether they themselves are obese or not.
    At one point, I had a BMI of 17, I was smaller than a UK size 4/US size 0 and I was very underweight but even then I didn't consider size 8 girls to be fat. I am thinking of both being slim and being healthy. I am at the low end of a healthy weight and yet you still say that I'm "fat". Fat is not healthy; fat should mean overweight. I know I'm not really skinny like I used to be anymore and believe me I often wish I still was, especially after some of the comments on here, but the weight I used to be was actually unhealthily underweight and girls shouldn't have to be that size in order to be attractive. So, you think you know better than the medical industry?

    I suppose I should be grateful that even you will concede that at 8 stone with a BMI of 19.8 I'm not likely to collapse of cardiac arrest due to being so incredibly fat... As to your version of being slim or fat, can you post some pictures from the internet of girls that you would consider slim and fat so that I can see exactly what you mean?
    Homeopathy fails to be any more effective than a placebo so on that basis anything more than zero being spent on it is a show of poor judgement. Either way yes, I am more of an authority than the NHS on what my opinion is of what constitutes chubby.

    It's hard to account for height but at a glance I would say this sort of level is when slim turns into chubby. http://122491412519633865.weebly.com...89672_orig.jpg
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    Homeopathy fails to be any more effective than a placebo so on that basis anything more than zero being spent on it is a show of poor judgement. Either way yes, I am more of an authority than the NHS on what my opinion is of what constitutes chubby.

    It's hard to account for height but at a glance I would say this sort of level is when slim turns into chubby. http://122491412519633865.weebly.com...89672_orig.jpg
    I'll reply to your full message later but just quickly if you would say those girls are chubby can you post a picture of what you would say is slim?
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    I'll reply to your full message later but just quickly if you would say those girls are chubby can you post a picture of what you would say is slim?
    http://i2.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming...Woman-body.jpg

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    So, you think the right hand side woman is chubby?
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    So, you think the right hand side woman is chubby?
    Yes.
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    Yes.
    And is there any difference according to you between fat and chubby or do you use fat and chucky to mean the same thing?
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    Yes.
    *chubby
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    And is there any difference according to you between fat and chubby or do you use fat and chucky to mean the same thing?
    Chubby would be the lower end of fat. But it is still fat because the size doesn't comprise of bone or muscle.
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    You can not be being serious right now, your either dumb or a attention seeker because everyone knows a size 8/10 arent for chubby people only slim people can fit into those sizes and a size six for your height is a unhealthy weight meaning you are underweight and are damaging your body and you can die. Tbh I think you need to seek help love as you don't sounds like your right in the head.
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    Chubby would be the lower end of fat. But it is still fat because the size doesn't comprise of bone or muscle.
    So, what would be a picture of a woman that you would consider fat then?
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    So, what would be a picture of a woman that you would consider fat then?
    Fat is an umbrella term, of which chubby is a part. So refer to the pics I already linked to.
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    You can not be being serious right now, your either dumb or a attention seeker because everyone knows a size 8/10 arent for chubby people only slim people can fit into those sizes and a size six for your height is a unhealthy weight meaning you are underweight and are damaging your body and you can die. Tbh I think you need to seek help love as you don't sounds like your right in the head.
    I am being serious and I think that is obvious from all of my posts on this thread. I am neither stupid nor an attention seeker thank you very much. I suspect that you are in fact a troll given that you have only just joined TSR and from looking at your other posts but giving you the benefit of the doubt I will answer you. I am not the only person who gets worried about this sort of thing (many people have posted similar threads) and if you want to know why girls get insecure about their weight then all you have to do is look at some of the other responses on this thread with people calling me "chubby", "fat", "wide", "dumpy" etc. for being a size 8. If you are my height (5"3.5) and a size 6 you are not necessarily underweight and definitely not at risk of dying from being severely underweight. As I said, this is a very common concern that a lot of girls have and I do not "need to seek help". I do not have an eating disorder or body dysmorphia but even if I did describing people who have conditions like that as not "right in the head" is incredibly insulting.
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    (Original post by Jebedee)
    Homeopathy fails to be any more effective than a placebo so on that basis anything more than zero being spent on it is a show of poor judgement. Either way yes, I am more of an authority than the NHS on what my opinion is of what constitutes chubby.

    It's hard to account for height but at a glance I would say this sort of level is when slim turns into chubby. http://122491412519633865.weebly.com...89672_orig.jpg
    Homeopathy has been shown to work in some studies actually and I do know from personal experience that homeopathic/natural medicines can work, if admittedly quite slowly compared with conventional medicines. Anyway, we're getting off topic. Yes, I agree that you are the only authority on your opinion but you were calling me "fat" and most people would use that to describe someone who was medically overweight. I am in between the size of the centre and right women on the daily record photo. Do you actually think that is fat?
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    Homeopathy has been shown to work in some studies actually and I do know from personal experience that homeopathic/natural medicines can work, if admittedly quite slowly compared with conventional medicines. Anyway, we're getting off topic. Yes, I agree that you are the only authority on your opinion but you were calling me "fat" and most people would use that to describe someone who was medically overweight. I am in between the size of the centre and right women on the daily record photo. Do you actually think that is fat?
    Yes it works in some studies, in the same frequency that placebo does. That's how we know it is nothing more than that.

    I can't judge without seeing you really but I know I wouldn't refer to the one on the right as thin.
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    Yes it works in some studies, in the same frequency that placebo does. That's how we know it is nothing more than that.

    I can't judge without seeing you really but I know I wouldn't refer to the one on the right as thin.
    As I said, I have actually had different natural medicines in the past, they have worked for me and what I had couldn't possibly have improved with a placebo. I do agree however that conventional medicine is more powerful and works faster. I'll see if I can find a picture of someone with a similar figure to me.
 
 
 
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