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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    Silly leftists, cant even remember what they post.
    Silly *****, can't even realise two different users.
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    (Original post by The Roast)
    Nonsense.
    you clearly don't know GOP voters then :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by ESPORTIVA LUTA)
    No he committed this attack because he was an isis supporter and islamic terrorist

    Not because he can just get firearms

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    Stop thinking one dimensionally. A would-be terrorist might only commit to doing an attack in the first place because of how readily available guns are. I'd be surprised if he would think of doing the same in the UK where guns, especially assault weapons, are far harder to obtain.
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    And the leftist mistruths continue, at no point did I say that them being gay lead to their deaths (although when you think about it, that's actually true, as they wouldn't have been in that club), what I stated is that leftists and liberals have played a large part in this attack, and that most gays are leftists / liberals.
    and the anti-sjw victim blamings continue

    explain to me why liberals and leftists are to blame?
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    (Original post by epage)
    and the anti-sjw victim blamings continue

    explain to me why liberals and leftists are to blame?
    They encourage the worst elements of Muslim society, and confer respectability on them (like Corbyn praising Raed Salah). They prevent efforts to force them to integrate. They pushed mass Muslim immigration on us in the first place. And I say that as a democratic socialist and social liberal
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    (Original post by epage)
    and the anti-sjw victim blamings continue

    explain to me why liberals and leftists are to blame?
    As it is liberals and leftists that support mass Muslim migration into the West, and then to make things worse, it is leftists and liberals that support programmes and government actions that reduce integration, whist supporting appeasement policies, rather than forcing the newcomers to adapt to a new way of life.
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    (Original post by Thutmose-III)
    They encourage the worst elements of Muslim society, and confer respectability on them (like Corbyn praising Raed Salah). They prevent efforts to force them to integrate. They pushed mass Muslim immigration on us in the first place. And I say that as a democratic socialist and social liberal

    Wow, you read my mind! Look at my previous post.
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    As it is liberals and leftists that support mass Muslim migration into the West, and then to make things worse, it is leftists and liberals that support programmes and government actions that reduce integration, whist supporting appeasement policies, rather than forcing the newcomers to adapt to a new way of life.
    Precisely. And then when these policies cause a tidal wave of psychopaths to come out of the Muslim community seeking to kill us all, these people then try to prevent any kind of military response. It's pathetic; people on my left side of politics have much to answer for (in fairness, there are also some righties who have this cuck mentality that says "Don't respond militarily to the caliphate". But it's mostly on the left)
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    (Original post by Thutmose-III)
    Precisely. And then when these policies cause a tidal wave of psychopaths to come out of the Muslim community seeking to kill us all, these people then try to prevent any kind of military response. It's pathetic; people on my left side of politics have much to answer for (in fairness, there are also some righties who have this cuck mentality that says "Don't respond militarily to the caliphate". But it's mostly on the left)
    Regarding the caliphate, this may surprise you, but I am against British military involvement, simply because I think that it should be the job of neighbouring countries.

    I also have said on this forum, that seems as we are bombing anyway, we may as well bomb properly and start to bomb effectively, Russian style, rather than bombing a few trucks every now and then.
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    Regarding the caliphate, this may surprise you, but I am against British military involvement, simply because I think that it should be the job of neighbouring countries.
    Then we really have very little in common.

    I also have said on this forum, that seems as we are bombing anyway, we may as well bomb properly and start to bomb effectively, Russian style, rather than bombing a few trucks every now and then.
    I'm sorry but this post merely tells us you know next to nothing about military tactics, and about the real facts on the ground. The Western coalition has killed around 30,000 ISIS members in airstrikes. That's because we have been consistent and steadfast in targeting and hitting targets every single day, and doing so with expensive guided munitions that almost never miss.

    The Russians have killed, at most, 1,000 ISIS members with their bombardments. It also sounds like you're like many Trumpkins and their UK counterparts; you have all the weakness and batshit crazy of the hard left (and the apparent admiration of Vladimir Putin that the insane, hard left and right share) without any of their corresponding upside on economic policy.
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    (Original post by ubiquitousking)
    TL;DR I don't blame the religion solely, but instead a mixture of many factors, each contributing to the murderer's acts.
    It's true that Islam/religion isn't the sole factor or cause. But it is the indispensable one; it is the necessary condition. You don't find any Christian, Hindu, Jewish or atheist members of ISIS.

    Islam is the vector through which the disease of ISIS spreads
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    (Original post by ubiquitousking)
    Because ISIS relates explicitly to Islam?
    I believe I expressed myself quite clearly. It's not too difficult to understand.

    Being a Muslim is the indispensable condition that must be met before someone can go on to join ISIS and conduct terrorist attacks on its behalf.

    There are extremist Buddhist groups in other parts of the world, for example. Likely extremist Hindu ones
    And how many attacks have these groups carried out in the West? How many Western Buddhists have left their homes in the West to go fight a genocidal war on behalf of a murderous group? How many Hindu extremist groups have slaughtered a hundred Parisian kids at a rock concert?

    Quantity has its own quality. The fact that tiny, irrelevant Buddhist and Hindu terrorist groups exist has no logical bearing on the centrality of the Islamist threat and its unique scale compared to other religious groups.
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    (Original post by Thutmose-III)
    I believe I expressed myself quite clearly. It's not too difficult to understand.

    Being a Muslim is the indispensable condition that must be met before someone can go on to join ISIS and conduct terrorist attacks on its behalf.



    And how many attacks have these groups carried out in the West? How many Western Buddhists have left their homes in the West to go fight a genocidal war on behalf of a murderous group? How many Hindu extremist groups have slaughtered a hundred Parisian kids at a rock concert?

    Quantity has its own quality. The fact that tiny, irrelevant Buddhist and Hindu terrorist groups exist has no logical bearing on the centrality of the Islamist threat and its unique scale compared to other religious groups.
    How many Iraqis killed by US, French, British governments? How many Libyans, Afghanis.....get the drift

    How many US army personnel killed Bhuddists? Hindus? None so they have no need to kill or attack in the west. :rolleyes:

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    (Original post by SMEGGGY)
    How many Iraqis killed by US, French, British governments? How many Libyans, Afghanis.....get the drift

    How many US army personnel killed Bhuddists? Hindus? None so they have no need to kill or attack in the west. :rolleyes:

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    What on earth is your point? ISIS sympathiser here folks.
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    Alert.

    Alert.


    We have an Al Qaeda symphatiser here.

    Alert

    Alert
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    Someone alert the police.

    This guy openly admitted twice that he supports Al Qaeda
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    Alert the police he's inciting racial hatred against muslims. It's a criminal offence

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    (Original post by SMEGGGY)
    Haha. Yes? A resistance movement against the west crusaders stealing oil off them.

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    You are probably going to be tracked by GCHQ now, enjoy.

    I am in two minds as to report you myself, just in case they are not.
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    (Original post by nexttimeigetvpn)
    Stop thinking one dimensionally. A would-be terrorist might only commit to doing an attack in the first place because of how readily available guns are. I'd be surprised if he would think of doing the same in the UK where guns, especially assault weapons, are far harder to obtain.
    oh yeah the paris terrorists and charlie hebdo terrorists only attacked france because of how readily available guns are there.................OH WAIT

    liberal logic loses again
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    (Original post by SMEGGGY)
    Alert the police he's inciting racial hatred against muslims. It's a criminal offence

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    I'd start running if I were you.
 
 
 
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