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I have no idea how to use the spoiler html.
Put in
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(Original post by TulipFields)
He kissed her back? Still, if kissing is cheating, surely Rory being kissed by Jenny was also cheating?
Thats said, I never liked that Amy was all over Dr in front of Rory
She kissed him on the cheek, not on the mouth. I don't think that would be cheating but you can tell Rory is getting attached to Jennifer.
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Put in
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I was doing it with <> haha.

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"Rory fails to score a double" - Rory fails to score the doppelgänger Jennifer haha?

XD just kidding I know it isn't that.
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(Original post by dorame)
I was doing it with <> haha.

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"Rory fails to score a double" - Rory fails to score the doppelgänger Jennifer haha?

XD just kidding I know it isn't that.
Somebody above said it was the darts BUT WHAT IF... Moffat knew TSR people look at those hints and put it in deliberate to make us think it was the Darts! :O
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(Original post by Ape Gone Insane)
Who wouldn't kiss her back? :pierre:
Okay okay my ORIGINAL comment was that AMY cheated because she was getting married in the morning and decided to try it on with someone other than her husband...even if the Doctor stopped it or is excused from kissing her back because she's so damn hot, that was still cheating.
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my thoughts exactly
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Has anyone bothered to go get italicised words yet?
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Ape mentioned 'bout the snowglobe a page back or so.

Do you think we'll actually find out what it is or what it does? :holmes:
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(Original post by Mr.Messy)
Anyone notice how the clones are like opposites of one another? Yes they all the same memories/emotions, but they deal with it in a different way. If you watch the Preview Clip 2, you can see that Clone Jennifer is taking the lead and is prepared to fight the real versions, 'us and them', whereas human Jennifer is scared and just wants help. Also Cleaves, who when seeing the Doctor team up with gangers, brought the electrocution device to kill them, but in Clip 2, she says "I just want to live in piece." when Clone Jennifer says we must go to war with the humans.

Anyway I wonder if this is true with the Clone Doctor. Will he be bad? :O
And I'm also wondering how the real Doctor will deal with his clone version, he didn't want to eliminate the gangers because 'life is scared', so he wouldn't kill Clone Doctor.

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Even though the Doctor wouldn't want to kill Clone Doctor, I think he will get killed/die with the other gangers in some shape or form in the next episode.
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ok back to revision :yawn:
I've noticed that Cleaves woman was more subdued as a clone, whereas Jenny the clone was running riot... Evil Dr would be cool though :ahee:
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(Original post by greeneyedgirl)
Has anyone bothered to go get italicised words yet?
I don't know if anyone has posted it yet, but it looks like the message is: message interrupted
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(Original post by spacepirate-James)
Ape mentioned 'bout the snowglobe a page back or so.

Do you think we'll actually find out what it is or what it does? :holmes:
I was wondering why he was twirling it all the time..
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(Original post by Ape Gone Insane)
Yes

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Interesting

(Original post by Ape Gone Insane)
My attempt at guessing the next episode (Amy's story) by adding on various theories and speculation:

Amy is a clone. We don't know when she's been cloned. Silents cloned her. She has a psychic link to the real Amy hence all these Kovarian appearances. The Doctor knows this. The scanner is scanning both the clone Amy and through the psychic link, the real Amy. One is pregnant, the other is not.

Amy told the Doctor she was pregnant because the psychic link leading to the real Amy is actually pregnant. At the end of episode 6, we see the clone Amy die or something, and the viewers find out she was a clone. That the real Amy has been ...

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Kidnapped by the Silents. This fits in with the synopsis that the Doctor and Rory go after the kidnapped Amy with an army. This also fits in with Amy being treated with extraordinary cruelty

This also fits in with set reports of two Amy's

Furthermore the SFX teaser says we will wonder when something that clearly happened, actually happened. I assume this refers to us wondering when Amy was actually cloned when the whole thing is revealed.


The most important observation to back this is the Doctor's hints. He knew about the Flesh technology. At least, a later version of the technology. He wanted to investigate it without Amy and Rory. He was questioned about knowing about a later version of the technology in the bathroom by the man and Amy. He gave Amy a long stare.

To back up the psychic link between Amy and Clone Amy, he tells clone Amy in Rebel Flesh to 'breathe'. The same sort of messages that Kovarian has been giving the real Amy as if to guide her through pregnancy. &quot;I think she's just dreaming/It's fine. You're doing fine. Just stay calm&quot;.

Why tell her to breathe? I think he was giving the clone a message which would no doubt be passed onto the real Amy. Just like the Kovarian messages are passed from real Amy to Clone Amy.

Finally a spoiler from a trailer

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The Doctor tells Amy (holding her face whilst her expression is vacant) that they are coming to get her and they will find her. Bit of an odd thing to say when she is right there. Seems like a message sent through psychic link to me.


Will come back to this post on Saturday to :smug: or to :getmecoat:
Agreee with what I've read of this (haven't read spoilers. Am typing tis with eyes shut so dodn't see spoilers while quote so spelling probs very off
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(Original post by Ape Gone Insane)
My attempt at guessing the next episode (Amy's story) by adding on various theories and speculation:

Amy is a clone. We don't know when she's been cloned. Silents cloned her. She has a psychic link to the real Amy hence all these Kovarian appearances. The Doctor knows this. The scanner is scanning both the clone Amy and through the psychic link, the real Amy. One is pregnant, the other is not.

Amy told the Doctor she was pregnant because the psychic link leading to the real Amy is actually pregnant. At the end of episode 6, we see the clone Amy die or something, and the viewers find out she was a clone. That the real Amy has been ...

Spoiler:
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Kidnapped by the Silents. This fits in with the synopsis that the Doctor and Rory go after the kidnapped Amy with an army. This also fits in with Amy being treated with extraordinary cruelty

This also fits in with set reports of two Amy's

Furthermore the SFX teaser says we will wonder when something that clearly happened, actually happened. I assume this refers to us wondering when Amy was actually cloned when the whole thing is revealed.


The most important observation to back this is the Doctor's hints. He knew about the Flesh technology. At least, a later version of the technology. He wanted to investigate it without Amy and Rory. He was questioned about knowing about a later version of the technology in the bathroom by the man and Amy. He gave Amy a long stare.

To back up the psychic link between Amy and Clone Amy, he tells clone Amy in Rebel Flesh to 'breathe'. The same sort of messages that Kovarian has been giving the real Amy as if to guide her through pregnancy. &quot;I think she's just dreaming/It's fine. You're doing fine. Just stay calm&quot;.

Why tell her to breathe? I think he was giving the clone a message which would no doubt be passed onto the real Amy. Just like the Kovarian messages are passed from real Amy to Clone Amy.

Finally a spoiler from a trailer

Spoiler:
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The Doctor tells Amy (holding her face whilst her expression is vacant) that they are coming to get her and they will find her. Bit of an odd thing to say when she is right there. Seems like a message sent through psychic link to me.


Will come back to this post on Saturday to :smug: or to :getmecoat:
The breathe could also be something along the lines of her just not doing it. Like the clones cleaves didn't feel the plate was hot.

(Original post by Gemini92)
Spoilers are like this: [spoiler]Insert Spoiler Here[/spoiler]

I think the &quot;Rory fails to score a double&quot; thing was refering to the darts game at the start.
It was darts.

(Original post by greeneyedgirl)
Has anyone bothered to go get italicised words yet?
Someone did, sorry can't remember who as was when I went throguh 7 pages of posts. Message interupted. Noone seemed to go with it though.

I wonder if the messages are something to do with Amy?
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(Original post by Ape Gone Insane)
My attempt at guessing the next episode (Amy's story) by adding on various theories and speculation:

Amy is a clone. We don't know when she's been cloned. Silents cloned her. She has a psychic link to the real Amy hence all these Kovarian appearances. The Doctor knows this. The scanner is scanning both the clone Amy and through the psychic link, the real Amy. One is pregnant, the other is not.

Amy told the Doctor she was pregnant because the psychic link leading to the real Amy is actually pregnant. At the end of episode 6, we see the clone Amy die or something, and the viewers find out she was a clone. That the real Amy has been ...

Spoiler:
Show
Kidnapped by the Silents. This fits in with the synopsis that the Doctor and Rory go after the kidnapped Amy with an army. This also fits in with Amy being treated with extraordinary cruelty

This also fits in with set reports of two Amy's

Furthermore the SFX teaser says we will wonder when something that clearly happened, actually happened. I assume this refers to us wondering when Amy was actually cloned when the whole thing is revealed.


The most important observation to back this is the Doctor's hints. He knew about the Flesh technology. At least, a later version of the technology. He wanted to investigate it without Amy and Rory. He was questioned about knowing about a later version of the technology in the bathroom by the man and Amy. He gave Amy a long stare.

To back up the psychic link between Amy and Clone Amy, he tells clone Amy in Rebel Flesh to 'breathe'. The same sort of messages that Kovarian has been giving the real Amy as if to guide her through pregnancy. "I think she's just dreaming/It's fine. You're doing fine. Just stay calm".

Why tell her to breathe? I think he was giving the clone a message which would no doubt be passed onto the real Amy. Just like the Kovarian messages are passed from real Amy to Clone Amy.

Finally a spoiler from a trailer

Spoiler:
Show
The Doctor tells Amy (holding her face whilst her expression is vacant) that they are coming to get her and they will find her. Bit of an odd thing to say when she is right there. Seems like a message sent through psychic link to me.


Will come back to this post on Saturday to :smug: or to :getmecoat:
Perhaps she was cloned whilst being with Silents (You have been with us for many days). Where does it say that she was treated with cruelty? :holmes:
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(Original post by Ape Gone Insane)
At a guess, if it is the monastery inside the globe (not sure), to check the status of their mission. He knew about the whole place. He perhaps picked up a souvenir from the future.

And he checks it regularly to see if the place ends up in ruin or stays the same. As if altering time is having an effect.

Wild wild theory. :awesome:
that's probably right. oh you so shmart.

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though you do have to wonder if a factory turns into a souvenir from the future, something big must've happened to it for it to become 'famous (or infamous) as it were...
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Perhaps she was cloned whilst being with Silents (You have been with us for many days). Where does it say that she was treated with cruelty? :holmes:
One problem with that is she sees Madame Kovarian before she gets kidnapped at that point. :holmes:

I just thought on both threads I haven't said how I felt about the episode...I really enjoyed it.
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Someone's probably already pointed out this but did anyone notice the similarity:
When Amy woke up with the Silence she thinks she's only just got there, but they say that she's been with them for several days
and when Cleaves/ganger is found after the solar lightening, she says it's only been a couple of minutes, but the Doctor says it's been hours instead.


(sorry if this should be in spoiler tags, but its nothing thats not been clearly in the episodes)
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One problem with that is she sees Madame Kovarian before she gets kidnapped at that point. :holmes:

I just thought on both threads I haven't said how I felt about the episode...I really enjoyed it.
Well, from Ape's idea- its real Amy that see Kovarian, but the clone gets the messages anyway?
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Well, from Ape's idea- its real Amy that see Kovarian, but the clone gets the messages anyway?
If that's the case then it was clone Amy that gets kidnapped in TIA and not the real Amy. Which could of course be the whole, when on Earth (and where :awesome:) did the real Amy get kidnapped?

Perhaps

Something to do with Prisoner Zero? Someone mentioned when Jen had the long neck that it was like him and he knows about the Silence, perhaps kidnapped and cloned at some point in those years? Although I'm not sure that could work as P0 would have been able to get off of Earth. :holmes:
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Great theory AGI!
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