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I've been searching for a few unis to do an MA in sociology luckily there's some unis out there that are in the mid 30's/40's that accept people with 2.2 degrees.

I say this because more than likely I'll end up with a 2.2 I've only just started to work my ass off now, those days were I should have studied didnt happen. My only hope now is to finish this degree, do an MA, do some internships and work my way up into the job ladder. There's worse things then getting a 2.2 nowadays. A degree's a degree, with the amount of crap I've had to put up with throughout my life for me this is an achievement despite being considered an average grade.

So many Turks in this country who hang around outside dont even get educated at ****ing college level they end up imitating street culture and disregarding their own upbringing and values. I guess fitting into an assimilated and adopted identity is more important than preserving your own nationality and studying to get an education :rolleyes:

Snap, I've rambled on again.
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(Original post by ChaoticSkills)
Of course they do, who wouldn't? they're greater in number as well so it just further perpetuates their idea that all of the Island should belong to them.
Let's be frank here; they clearly proved that they can take care of a country and have advanced a lot more than the North over the years. Not sure if you've been to Cyprus but if you compare the two sides, it's no wonder the North is not a recognized area. Personally I, being half Turkish Cypriot, don't consider the North a country myself.
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(Original post by OceanSoul)
Let's be frank here; they clearly proved that they can take care of a country and have advanced a lot more than the North over the years. Not sure if you've been to Cyprus but if you compare the two sides, it's no wonder the North is not a recognized area. Personally I, being half Turkish Cypriot, don't consider the North a country myself.
Yes of course you dont, we've got all kinds of embargoes and restrictions placed on us what do you want us to do? our hands are tied which means we cant advance any further. Go to places like the Girne or Magusa and see how much they've revamped it not to mention they totally redone Ercan airport a few years back as well.

Plus they've got more land which means they can do more investing, not to mention their EU Status :rolleyes:
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(Original post by OceanSoul)
Personally I, being half Turkish Cypriot, don't consider the North a country myself.
A disgrace.
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(Original post by Zebracolors)
So I have not been able to see what the chat here about Cyprus was all about? Not familiar with there but I am curious.
There's been a few protests (and more to come) by Turkish Cypriot trade unionists and members of left wing parties against Turkey's Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's 'insults.' The tension stems from Cypriot's 'fear' towards mainland Turks that are increasingly settling to the island and the Cypriot's reluctance to accept the austerity package proposed by Turkey (40% salary cuts on its bloated civil service, selling off the telecoms and electricity providers and to privatise a university) that could save the country from bankruptcy.
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This is interesting to read, I knew we mass manufactured F-16 on license from America which we sold to countries like Egypt but never would I have imagined that our own self designed defence products would reach export proportions like this.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.p...ear-2011-02-14

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(Original post by ChaoticSkills)
Yes of course you dont, we've got all kinds of embargoes and restrictions placed on us what do you want us to do? our hands are tied which means we cant advance any further. Go to places like the Girne or Magusa and see how much they've revamped it not to mention they totally redone Ercan airport a few years back as well.

Plus they've got more land which means they can do more investing, not to mention their EU Status :rolleyes:
O.K., if North Cyprus was a country on its own, do you think they would manage to advance? At least as much as the South?

I agree that most of the population here are jobless Turks or crooks who can easily settled down here just by showing an ID - but other than that, I don't know, I think the North wouldn't manage alone. Seems like they either need to be under Turkey or the South.
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I agree that most of the population here are jobless Turks or crooks who can easily settled down here just by showing an ID [/COLOR]
If this is referrring to Cypriots in the UK
Do you realise that there are about 400,000 Turkish Cypriots living in the UK today? Are you really so prejudiced against your own population to think that most of these people are ‘jobless’ or ‘crooks?’ I am sick and tired of the narrow-minded people that continuously undermine the Turkish Cypriots in London that came to this country in order to escape from the harsh economic and political life in Cyprus and have spent their lives being honest hardworking people.

If this is referrring to mainland Turks settling to the island
I find calling the new mainland Turks in Cyprus 'crooks' and 'jobless' to be insulting and most likely to be a product of xenophobic brainwashing from other islanders. The mainland settlers generally come from very poor backgrounds and are very hardworking decent people that come to do the labour intensive jobs that our islanders feel too superior to do anymore- in my home village for instance, jobs such as orange picking is mostly done by mainlanders- the job the Greek Cypriots in the past would employ the Turkish Cypriots to do.
It is all very easy to blame the corruption of the state on the poor foreigners when it is the Turkish Cypriot MPs that are commissioning the building of brothels and casinos all across the island. The mainlanders are just being made into scapegoats for the Cypriot's own incompetence.
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[COLOR="Purple"]O.K., if North Cyprus was a country on its own, do you think they would manage to advance? At least as much as the South?
With the right mind set and investment its more than possible.

I agree that most of the population here are jobless Turks or crooks who can easily settled down here just by showing an ID -
This is utter BS, this is the typical mentality that most Turkish cypriots grow up with in this country "Garasakalar bizi istemezler memleket onlarin elinde"

If you actually ever speak to a mainland Turk in Cyprus you'd see how articulate a lot of them are. Not to mention they have around 40,000 troops stationed on the island, I guess they aren't there to protect us but to destroy our island with their criminal mentality? Also my eniste is a pharmacist and he's a mainland Turk. Must be a criminal right? :awesome:

but other than that, I don't know, I think the North wouldn't manage alone. Seems like they either need to be under Turkey or the South.
Could the south thrive without the help with Greece or the EU? you do realise that the south of Cyprus and Greece are major trade partners right? take away that trade and you've essentially put a massive dent in their economy.
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If this is referrring to Cypriots in the UK
Do you realise that there are about 400,000 Turkish Cypriots living in the UK today? Are you really so prejudiced against your own population to think that most of these people are ‘jobless’ or ‘crooks?’ I am sick and tired of the narrow-minded people that continuously undermine the Turkish Cypriots in London that came to this country in order to escape from the harsh economic and political life in Cyprus and have spent their lives being honest hardworking people.

If this is referrring to mainland Turks settling to the island
I find calling the new mainland Turks in Cyprus 'crooks' and 'jobless' to be insulting and most likely to be a product of xenophobic brainwashing from other islanders. The mainland settlers generally come from very poor backgrounds and are very hardworking decent people that come to do the labour intensive jobs that our islanders feel too superior to do anymore- in my home village for instance, jobs such as orange picking is mostly done by mainlanders- the job the Greek Cypriots in the past would employ the Turkish Cypriots to do.
It is all very easy to blame the corruption of the state on the poor foreigners when it is the Turkish Cypriot MPs that are commissioning the building of brothels and casinos all across the island. The mainlanders are just being made into scapegoats for the Cypriot's own incompetence.
Your second point. I'm not concerned about Cypriots living in the UK. I'm not being racist against them and I'm not insulting them - it's a fact. Most of them are like that. The decent Turks are obviously not going to leave Turkey to come here since they are settled down in their own country. I live in Cyprus, I have seen enough to know. But I agree on the fact that some of the people that come here are hardworking and do the jobs Turkish Cypriots would not do since they are too proud. Not sure if you've realised though but a lot of the Turkish Cypriots have now started to do those jobs on the South! However I'm not blaming this corruption completely on the Turks here. If that's how you took it as.
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(Original post by ChaoticSkills)
With the right mind set and investment its more than possible.
I don't find that a lot of the T. Cypriot politicians have the right mind set? Especially our current president, I mean, ain't he representative? But I guess we could hope that they could advance if Turkey ever leaves.


This is utter BS, this is the typical mentality that most Turkish cypriots grow up with in this country "Garasakalar bizi istemezler memleket onlarin elinde"

If you actually ever speak to a mainland Turk in Cyprus you'd see how articulate a lot of them are. Not to mention they have around 40,000 troops stationed on the island, I guess they aren't there to protect us but to destroy our island with their criminal mentality? Also my eniste is a pharmacist and he's a mainland Turk. Must be a criminal right? :awesome:
No, no - I never think of it as 'Garasakallar bizi istemez'. And note that I didn't mean all Turks, but the majority yes. Watch this video and tell me what you think. At least the first 5 minutes. One of the men, who is a Turk who served as a commander here is literally saying there's been an increase in criminality. I'm not saying this whole issue has to do with Turks, I'm more like in the middle. But I like how it's talked about in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LwdmEm-7Uw


Could the south thrive without the help with Greece or the EU? you do realise that the south of Cyprus and Greece are major trade partners right? take away that trade and you've essentially put a massive dent in their economy.
Well, they were allowed to be a part of the EU for a reason in the first place I suppose. Edit: And what? Greece has no economy, they aren't helping out Southern Cyprus.
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(Original post by OceanSoul)
The decent Turks are obviously not going to leave Turkey to come here since they are settled down in their own country.
Evidently quite a few of the decent Turks do. Retirement as a whole is a lot more comfortable in Cyprus than in Turkey and the wages are also considerably higher for certain jobs- particularly in the inflated public sector. Also let's not forget the substantial number of mainland Turks that do military services in Cyprus.

(Original post by OceanSoul)
One of the men, who is a Turk who served as a commander here is literally saying there's been an increase in criminality.
There has been a very large increase in organised crime. I would not blame the influx of mainland Turks for that.

(Original post by OceanSoul)
Well, they were allowed to be a part of the EU for a reason in the first place I suppose.
They're Christians. :top:

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Greece has no economy, they aren't helping out Southern Cyprus.
Almost half of South Cyprus' exports goes to Greece. Without Greece, the country would be crippled.
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Evidently quite a few of the decent Turks do. Retirement as a whole is a lot more comfortable in Cyprus than in Turkey and the wages are also considerably higher for certain jobs- particularly in the inflated public sector. Also let's not forget the substantial number of mainland Turks that do military services in Cyprus.
Jeez, I never said 100% of them are trouble makers. I know quite a few decent Turks as well, mostly those who have a Turkish Cypriot partner. Also a few who teach at the universities here. But seriously, have you been to Karpaz or saw the area in Bostanci right after the border? It's like a little village off Turkey.

And again - I'm not blaming the problems in the North solely on mainland Turks/Turkey. I'm against the protests.


There has been a very large increase in organised crime. I would not blame the influx of mainland Turks for that.
Ever considered that perhaps our dear Turkish Cypriots are adopting the actions of those mainland Turks?

They're Christians. :top:
¿Qué? You need to follow certain criteria to join the EU.

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The Copenhagen criteria are the rules that define whether a country is eligible to join the European Union. The criteria require that a state has the institutions to preserve democratic governance and human rights, has a functioning market economy, and accepts the obligations and intent of the EU. These membership criteria were laid down at the June 1993 European Council in Copenhagen, Denmark, from which they take their name. Excerpt from the Copenhagen Presidency conclusions[1]:
“Membership requires that candidate country has achieved stability of institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights, respect for and protection of minorities, the existence of a functioning market economy as well as the capacity to cope with competitive pressure and market forces within the Union. Membership presupposes the candidate's ability to take on the obligations of membership including adherence to the aims of political, economic and monetary union.''


Almost half of South Cyprus' exports goes to Greece. Without Greece, the country would be crippled.
Cyprus has many other trading partners but I'll look into this.
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I don't get it, is OceanSoul trying to knock us Turks from the Asia Minor? :hmmmm:
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I don't get it, is OceanSoul trying to knock us Turks from the Asia Minor? :hmmmm:
This is about Cyprus, not all of Asia Minor. And not just any 'Turk'.
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This is about Cyprus, not all of Asia Minor. And not just any 'Turk'.
Why the 'Turk' in inverted commas?
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Why the 'Turk' in inverted commas?
No important reason.
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No important reason.
No, I think there's an important reason...

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Either way, I hate Turkish Cypriots more than you do, but you need to...

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No, I think there's an important reason...

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1. No, I was referring to mainland Turks by 'Turks' and not T. Cypriots.
2. I don't hate T. Cypriots but I dislike a lot of things about them.
3. I'm actually quite calm and may I mention, about to have some coffee. Fancy some?
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1. No, I was referring to mainland Turks by 'Turks' and not T. Cypriots.
That's rather nonsensical. Surely it should be the other way round?

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2. I don't hate T. Cypriots but I dislike a lot of things about them.
Well I hate them because I dislike a lot of things about them, and I imagine you're the same. The difference is that I'm open and honest, whereas you prefer to hide in a closet.

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3. I'm actually quite calm and may I mention, about to have some coffee. Fancy some?
No, I don't drink coffee. Not ever.
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