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TSR MHoC General Election March 2013 Watch

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    TSR Conservative and Unionist Party
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    TSR Labour Party
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    TSR Liberal Party
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    8.72%
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    7.57%
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    11.35%
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    No, you're a racist, bigot. The party is a single issue party and the policies they have to fill out the manifesto are pretty stupid and that is compared to my stupid policies that mean very little as I am running as a protest vote.

    As for your other question, no I do not care to expand nor explain my reasons for hating your stupidity.
    So you won't offer reasons for your hatred of my view, but you call me a bigot? Stay classy...

    Run as a protest vote - I wouldn't imagine you'll take any votes off of us.
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    (Original post by Thunder and Jazz)
    That's almost as funny as the old "intelegence has a right wing bias, it goes without saying" quote.
    Interesting point. The most famous (and as far as I'm aware only) libertarian student's union in the UK is Imperial. They are notable as a university for not having any arts students. I checked and there were no candidates in my Uni's last set of elections from STEM subjects. The closest we got was sports science.

    On a related note, my Student's union recently tried to stop the pub on campus showing the six nations because RBS lent money to oil companies. Mental, the lot of them.
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    (Original post by Thunder and Jazz)
    That's almost as funny as the old "intelegence has a right wing bias, it goes without saying" quote.
    I wasn't saying intelligence determines political persuasion, just that knowledge of a particular area should surely leave someone capable of spelling it correctly?

    Besides, there was a recent study, controversial as it was, which concluded that there was a correlation between higher intelligence and lefty views. Something about thinking innovatively and advancing the species or something.
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    (Original post by chrisawhitmore)
    It's part of the tiered education system. People who can spell do STEM subjects, people who can mostly spell do social sciences, people who used to eat crayons do arts subjects and people who still eat crayons study modern art.
    Vote Libertarian for such despicable attitudes!

    Also, psychology is a BSc, officially classed as a science so arguably falls under the science aspect of STEM. Plus, how can 'people who can mostly spell' do social science when they are much more essay based than the subjects i presume you class as STEM?
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    No, you're a racist, bigot. The party is a single issue party and the policies they have to fill out the manifesto are pretty stupid and that is compared to my stupid policies that mean very little as I am running as a protest vote.

    As for your other question, no I do not care to expand nor explain my reasons for hating your stupidity.
    Why are you calling them racist? That seems a little aggressive. What have I missed?
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    (Original post by chrisawhitmore)
    It's part of the tiered education system. People who can spell do STEM subjects, people who can mostly spell do social sciences, people who used to eat crayons do arts subjects and people who still eat crayons study modern art.
    Modern art is wonderful, I love Monet, Van Gogh and many others Contemporary art on the other hand... that is just blocks of paint or statutes of rubbish
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    (Original post by tufc)
    The other three are, though. In any case, the two you pointed out are the more reasonable of the 5, though I still don't agree with them.
    neither do I they are awful ideas.
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    (Original post by ByronicHero)
    You could pay to take a test, but honestly I wouldn't bother.
    Because I am too stupid, is that why? :cry:
    (Original post by tufc)
    So you won't offer reasons for your hatred of my view, but you call me a bigot? Stay classy...

    Run as a protest vote - I wouldn't imagine you'll take any votes off of us.
    No I live in a free country, I can hate without explaining to you if I so wish.

    Hey I don't care about you.
    (Original post by chrisawhitmore)
    Why are you calling them racist? That seems a little aggressive. What have I missed?
    Not them, him.
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    Because I am too stupid, is that why? :cry:

    No I live in a free country, I can hate without explaining to you if I so wish.

    Hey I don't care about you.

    Not them, him.
    I know you're in a free country. Doesn't mean you're not a bigot.
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    (Original post by paperclip)
    So you couldn't retort to my point about you not being able to evidence any of your claims, and me being able to evidence my claims, so you attack my intelligence. You do realise you don't need to be able to spell empirical (or any other word for that matter) in order to read scientific articles? :rolleyes:

    Actually, i am pretty sure my spelling is quite atrocious. Has never stopped me reading (or writing for that matter, thanks to spell check!)
    I think you're confusing me with someone else - we weren't having a discussion, I just interjected by pointing out the only half-serious point about spelling.

    Of course you can read scientific articles if you are a bad speller; but my confidence in someone being able to expertly apply empirical science to the education system is drastically decreased when they can't even spell 'empirical science'.
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    (Original post by Tuerin)
    I wasn't saying intelligence determines political persuasion, just that knowledge of a particular area should surely leave someone capable of spelling it correctly?

    Besides, there was a recent study, controversial as it was, which concluded that there was a correlation between higher intelligence and lefty views. Something about thinking innovatively and advancing the species or something.
    The fact that they used the term "left" is deeply concerning given that it makes no distinction between economic and social attitudes.

    I'm of the right and i'm all for innovation and advancement of our species both genetically and technologically.
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    (Original post by paperclip)
    Vote UKIP for such despicable attitudes!

    Also, psychology is a BSc, officially classed as a science so arguably falls under the science aspect of STEM. Plus, how can 'people who can mostly spell' do social science when they are much more essay based than the subjects i presume you class as STEM?
    It's a joke, largely based off of the misspelling of empirical. The last part is really just there to serve the joke about modern art.

    Apart from that, it was a devious ploy to lose UKIP votes among arts students.
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    (Original post by ByronicHero)
    So what would be your solution?
    encourage more courses such as cooking, metalwork, engineering etc and stop treating them as second class subjects. Make sure the education system caters for everyone, rather than a select few and stop pushing university as the only route to a good job. Bring back more apprenticeships and make it worth a business's while to take on an apprentice.

    Obviously these arent necessarily measures the party would take, im talking from a personal rather than party viewpoint here.

    (Original post by tufc)
    The answer is the opposite, in fact. Stop forcing kids who are non-academic and hate studying academic subjects to study them, and you'll stop making them feel like failures. Let them learn to work with their hands, learn what they're naturally good at, and they'll feel like the successes they are.
    yeah, when I got to choose my options we were already down to only being able to choose 2 subjects we wanted to do. Now that humanities are compulsory (I chose history and geog so it wouldnt have affected me anyway) I know they're down to a choice between hist. and geog, and can only pick one other subject. Far too many compulsory subjects. THe only problem is there are academic kids that are late bloomers, take Einstein for example, his teachers told him he would never achieve anythign in life. The current system is far too rigid and cant cope with pupils that dont show their talents at an early age.
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    Modern art is wonderful, I love Monet, Van Gogh and many others Contemporary art on the other hand... that is just blocks of paint or statutes of rubbish
    I saw a tipped over shopping trolley sell for 2000 euro in Austria once. It represented something or so I was told.
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    (Original post by tehFrance)
    Because I am too stupid, is that why? :cry:

    No I live in a free country, I can hate without explaining to you if I so wish.

    Hey I don't care about you.

    Not them, him.
    You can do an IQ test for free, i'm not sure how close they are to the Mensa version though.

    Personally i don't think they measure what i would regard as intelligence (the accumulation of knowledge), i'd expect everybody here to be well over the 100 mark though.
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    (Original post by chrisawhitmore)
    Interesting point. The most famous (and as far as I'm aware only) libertarian student's union in the UK is Imperial. They are notable as a university for not having any arts students. I checked and there were no candidates in my Uni's last set of elections from STEM subjects. The closest we got was sports science.

    On a related note, my Student's union recently tried to stop the pub on campus showing the six nations because RBS lent money to oil companies. Mental, the lot of them.
    (Original post by Tuerin)
    I wasn't saying intelligence determines political persuasion, just that knowledge of a particular area should surely leave someone capable of spelling it correctly?

    Besides, there was a recent study, controversial as it was, which concluded that there was a correlation between higher intelligence and lefty views. Something about thinking innovatively and advancing the species or something.
    This isn't the place to have this debate (but feel free to quote me in to the Commons Bar thread), but you both seem to have missed the joke I fear.

    "Intelegence has a right wing bias, it goes without saying."
    "Intelegence has a right wing bias"
    "Intelegence"

    Annoyingly, I've forgotten who it was who had the quote in their sig (paperclip?) and who it was who said it in the first place.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    The fact that they used the term "left" is deeply concerning given that it makes no distinction between economic and social attitudes.

    I'm of the right and i'm all for innovation and advancement of our species both genetically and technologically.
    'Left' generally refers to left-wing in both those areas. The advancement thing was more in terms of thinking in novel ways rather than relying on traditional/conservative attitudes; doing so has in the past advanced the species in that broader sense.
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    (Original post by Thunder and Jazz)
    This isn't the place to have this debate (but feel free to quote me in to the Commons Bar thread), but you both seem to have missed the joke I fear.

    "Intelegence has a right wing bias, it goes without saying."
    "Intelegence has a right wing bias"
    "Intelegence"
    I did notice, but was too afraid of coming across as an arse by pushing the spelling thing too far on the off chance that it wasn't intentional.
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    (Original post by chrisawhitmore)
    I saw a tipped over shopping trolley sell for 2000 euro in Austria once. It represented something or so I was told.
    Seriously?! 2.000€? for that? :lolwut:

    Give me a Monet or Van Gogh any day
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    (Original post by paperclip)
    Vote Libertarian for such despicable attitudes!

    Also, psychology is a BSc, officially classed as a science so arguably falls under the science aspect of STEM. Plus, how can 'people who can mostly spell' do social science when they are much more essay based than the subjects i presume you class as STEM?
    He's with the Libertarians - so it would be nice if you would correct that please.
 
 
 
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