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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    So again you agree with lib dem plans. You odviously support unis being free due to your recent socialist bill. So do you support a legalisation of cannabis?
    No.
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    (Original post by Metrobeans)
    While Labour may move further left (especially if they lose the next election), there won't be any dramatic shifts in direction, yet I will still vote for Labour. Despite their lean to the right in recent years, they are the only party that are serious opposition to the Tories.

    As Dipak points out, it's either Labour or Tories in Ealing - I know where my vote's going. If TfL had pressed ahead with the tram scheme, Ealing, Acton and Shepherds Bush would most certainly have turned blue. Now, I'm not so sure.
    The tram would've been amazing, direct connection everywhere.
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    (Original post by paperclip)
    The tram would've been amazing, direct connection everywhere.
    We have a Tory council because of Ken!
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    (Original post by Metrobeans)
    Ditto paperclip's answer.
    If you agree with the direct democracy, why not enforce it within your own party?
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    The Labour Party isn't right wing, Dayne. I know it's to your parties advantage to portray us that way, but we're really not. To be honest, all your questions are a mix of youthful naivite and government fatigue. Why haven't you asked them about the good things Labour has done? How about asking whether the TSR Labour party thinks slashing NHS waiting times is a good thing?
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    (Original post by paperclip)
    If you agree with the direct democracy, why not enforce it within your own party?
    I meant ditto to the first part of the answer - not the direct democracy bit.
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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    Do the tsr labour party agree with these plans?
    I'm not really sure

    (Original post by DayneD89)
    Do you support plans to moniter all internet use?
    no

    (Original post by DayneD89)
    Exactly what labour policy do you support? You seem to oppose a lot of new labour policy.
    I support REAL Labour :yes:

    (Original post by DayneD89)
    Would you support a restoration of the old vat rate in order to fund a tax cut for the poor?
    probably

    (Original post by DayneD89)
    do you support a legalisation of cannabis?
    YES!!

    (Original post by DayneD89)
    Do tsr labour think that labour will move left again soon
    Probably? New Labour is dead, the idea failed.

    (Original post by Alasdair)
    Do you support the 50% tax band? Do you support the Car scrappage allowance? Do you support the Equality Bill? Do you support the National Minimum Wage? Do you support a massive injection of help for the unemployed?
    hell yeah

    ermm probably not

    yes, although i don't really agree with affirmative action. but i like the rest of it.

    yeh :adore: probably new labour's greatest achievement (along with ending fox hunting)

    yes
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    (Original post by Alasdair)
    The Labour Party isn't right wing, Dayne. I know it's to your parties advantage to portray us that way, but we're really not. To be honest, all your questions are a mix of youthful naivite and government fatigue. Why haven't you asked them about the good things Labour has done? How about asking whether the TSR Labour party thinks slashing NHS waiting times is a good thing?
    Of course i havn't asked about the good things. I do know they are there though there is also a lot of bad.
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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    Id support a move to ams. Direct democracy would be better but it has problems.

    New question. Would you support a restoration of the old vat rate in order to fund a tax cut for the poor?
    I wouldn't. I should point out that tax for poor people has gone down to some extent. I now get £13 more every month.

    I still support the VAT cut. It has helped to bring spending forward to this year for people who may have otherwise held off until 2010. I would not agree with extending the cut for the same reason - we want to get people spending now.
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    (Original post by DayneD89)
    Of course i havn't asked about the good things. I do know they are there though there is also a lot of bad.
    You are aware of the efforts our party makes to somewhat disassociate ourselves with the current government?
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    (Original post by lotsofsnails)
    yeh :adore: probably new labour's greatest achievement (along with ending fox hunting)
    Ack. Apart from personally having yet to see a truly convincing argument against foxhunting, the Hunting Act is a confused and flawed piece of legislation that was put together by people who did not understand what they were legislating or the people they were affecting, as a misguided attempt to attack the rural community.
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    (Original post by Metrobeans)
    You are aware of the efforts our party makes to somewhat disassociate ourselves with the current government?
    Yes, but to a degree you are associated. Prehaps a name change to old labour?
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    (Original post by Jace Falco)
    Ack. Apart from personally having yet to see a truly convincing argument against foxhunting, the Hunting Act is a confused and flawed piece of legislation that was put together by people who did not understand what they were legislating or the people they were affecting, as a misguided attempt to attack the rural community.
    Hear hear.
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    Hear Hear!!

    When will "old labour" put some care in the NHS by trying to lower waiting lists? Also, when will you look at the benefits system? People today are claiming money when they can work, are able to work but can't be bothered to go and get a decent job?
    I know you're all busy claiming money for a 5* service and watching videos but I think you should spare some time for looking at decent policies instead of lecturing.
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    (Original post by Jace Falco)
    Ack. Apart from personally having yet to see a truly convincing argument against foxhunting, the Hunting Act is a confused and flawed piece of legislation that was put together by people who did not understand what they were legislating or the people they were affecting, as a misguided attempt to attack the rural community.
    Meh. I've lived most of my life in rural communities (all with a very active hunt) and I'm kinda ambivalent about it. Whilst I guess it's kinda nice for most of the village to go out and watch the posh ones ritualistically kill some animals, it's really not that vital to rural economies or communities and it is pretty barbaric; your average fox looks pretty ****** over after a hunt.
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    (Original post by Gremlins)
    Meh. I've lived most of my life in rural communities (all with a very active hunt) and I'm kinda ambivalent about it. Whilst I guess it's kinda nice for most of the village to go out and watch the posh ones ritualistically kill some animals, it's really not that vital to rural economies or communities and it is pretty barbaric; your average fox looks pretty ****** over after a hunt.
    That betrays a poor understanding of foxhunting. For one thing, it's certainly not just 'the posh ones;' plenty of people share horses and do it because it's what they love.

    While there is a certain level of tradition involved, it's hardly 'ritualistic' killing, it's actually one of the more efficient ways of culling the fox population, which needs to be done because the natural predators of foxes were long ago killed out by humans.

    You say that it's not vital to rural economies or communities, but farmers in particular can be particularly hard hit by foxes, and having a hunt which does not have to be paid to deal with them is far preferable to paying for pest control, or worse, having the local louts going out drunkenly lamping.

    And it's not barbaric - the fox gets torn up by the hounds after dying; there is no drawn out, horrifically painful death involved. The hounds are well trained; one bite to the neck and it's all over.

    Before we go down the road of it being cruel because of the fear of the chase, don't bother. While the hunt lasts hours, each individual chase lasts only minutes - most of the time is spent tracking. Either way, the chase strikes no more fear into the fox than the natural way many animals die.

    Is there anything else, or can we move on? I'd prefer not to turn this into a drawn-out discussion, and this isn't really the thread for it.
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8028170.stm do you feel the same? Are you ashamed of the real life labour party?
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    (Original post by theseeker)
    Hear Hear!!

    When will "old labour" put some care in the NHS by trying to lower waiting lists? Also, when will you look at the benefits system? People today are claiming money when they can work, are able to work but can't be bothered to go and get a decent job?
    I know you're all busy claiming money for a 5* service and watching videos but I think you should spare some time for looking at decent policies instead of lecturing.
    Ha ha. I wonder if Dayne knows I rejected your TSR Labour application just a couple of weeks ago. Suddenly, we're the worst in the world...
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    (Original post by Metrobeans)
    Ha ha. I wonder if Dayne knows I rejected your TSR Labour application just a couple of weeks ago. Suddenly, we're the worst in the world...
    I didn't know that, but i dont think it makes a difference. I also notice that you didnt answer the questions.
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    Considering he's been a member of the Lib Dem, Labour and Conservative parties at some stage, I think it does.

    The questions, like yours, are getting repetitive and rather silly. Of course I am proud to be a real life member of the Labour Party. As you well know, we have achieved a great deal in our 12 years of governance. I'm not quite sure why you've taken to ****ging us off all of a sudden. Perhaps your rl counterparts lack of achievments is starting to frustrate you.

    With regards to his questions, I am not sure whether theseeker is talking about the TSR Labour Party or the Labour government in real life. The real life government have cut waiting lists by 614,000 since 1997 and TSR Labour are committed to improving healthcare and improving access to critical and life-saving drugs.

    The second point suggests theseeker's views on Benefits are more alligned with the Tories. We do not agree with his views and are proud to have increased JSA this session.
 
 
 
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