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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I chose to be anonymous for my personal reason, you can think of it however you want.

    Anecdotal insult: Check
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    I won't state my "race", which is what you want :lol: because "race" is a social construct and I am a Christian, as one, we are not supposed to categorise people by their "race" because we are all made in God's image. You could choose to laugh at this, due to tsr being mostly filled with atheists but I don't really care.

    I don't have any hangups about someone's "race", seems simplistic but we all have red blood and during a blood transfusion to save a person's life, only the blood type matters, not the donor's "race" (How I despise that stupid "race" term).

    I for one, do not have a preference and no I am not being dishonest, I hate dishonesty. Well, I put blonde hair because it suits my skin colour the most out of other colours of hair type. And it is ridiculous that you and everyone else assume a person is "racially ambiguous and less black" for it. Next, you will be telling me that anyone with a lighter skin tone is not black, I beg to differ because members of my family who are not mixed have a lighter skin tone with grey and blue'green eyes and they are 100% black from mother Africa. Just because it is rare does not mean it can't occur. I know it is off topic but wanted to state that anyways.

    Caucasian and japanese girls "perm" their hair to make it straight and nothing is said about it. If the blonde hair suits one skin tone and is not tacky, I see no problem with it. I for one could care less about what other people think of the hair colour I have on my hair, because it is not only one's hair, but one's life at the end of the day and living your life to please others doesn't grant one satisfaction.

    Just because you have relationships with black girls or with black people does not make you "enlightened", educated or whatever about black people. Until you are black yourself, you won't understand what it means being black. As the parable goes "'Only the wearer knows where the shoe pinches". You have some hang ups about black girls/people even though you think of yourself as being liberal and not "racist" for having relationships with them, do sort them out. Last time I checked, one can still be racist even though they have "black" friends, not that I am calling you a "racist" I was just stating a fact.

    NB: To Caucasian boys, the black girls I see (personally speaking, and not fact), could care less about how a person of a certain race thinks about them :lol:. Although there are some black girls that do have a "preference" for them. Just because you find many black girls making threads about being attracted to Caucasian boys, does not make this the norm.
    That guy is a total lemon. I foolishly continued reading his initial essay in this thread; I'm pretty sure I've gotten dumber.
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    (Original post by Mancini)
    I don't even understand the aim of this post I can assume you are trying to take the thread in a different direction. Your initial post was not about the black community as a whole it was simply about you finding out what caucasian guys thought about black women and why some do not find you attractive. This black separatist issue was not even mentioned in the initial post but you are using it here to pretend this was initialy about learning about the black people and how people viewed us you can't fool me.

    Why are you asking me about black men in jail what exactly has this got to do with me or your initial post? You see what I mean you are attempting to change the reasons you started this whole thread, no where have I even discussed black men in jail I simply stated I have never met a black separatist.

    You come from the USA though a total different culture perhaps you have met more of these sorts of people, however, this does not change the fact that this thread has nothing to do with learning about the way people view the wider black community instead its simply about learning how caucasian males view the black female.

    Look back at your initial post the only people you specifically mention are black females and Caucasian males so I have every right to question your motivations. Learn to stick to the subject instead of taking the conversation on a different tangent in order to attempt to paint a better picture of yourself.

    The fact you mention specifically those two groups black female and Caucasian male tells me that your only aim is to reach a greater understanding between the two therefor excluding everyone else. Which is fine if its made clear but pretending this is about a greater understanding of society as whole won't work with me nor anyone else who can see where you really are coming from. Perhaps you have to learn how to make unbiased questions in future if you truly are aiming to learn about everyone as a whole which I doubt. Also I think that article/research you read about Caucasian males not being attracted to black females had a bigger affect on you than you think.
    Im sorry did i direct my questions at just caucasian men, did i start with hey white guys what do you think about black girls, no . I asked everyone! guys and girls, a girl earlier had asked if it was just guys i wanted answers from, i said no.

    Yes i am black and thats why i asked specifically in the 3rd question but it wasn't, hey white guys what do you think, it was a general question, for everyone, get the **** of your high horse.

    Im not even into dating for heavens sakes, why on earth would i change to impress when i don't even date.

    The last question was taken from a psychology class we had that talked about racial dating. I was interested in finding answers that might be similar to the answers we got in my high school survey thats why it was included smart ass.

    Gosssh its girls like you with all your pent up anger, and false assumptions that make life difficult for people that are just trig be good and honest, you are probably projecting all your thoughts about yourself on me, i advice you don't do that, smart people get to know others before they make judgements.

    This was never a personal thing and you are taking it so personal, you have issues, and i don't, go deal with yours and stop bothering me. Move along and stop looking to fight with a person, all you've done is point fingers and accuse on a post that is just looking for simple answers, really simple answers.

    Besides any one that makes a post like this know that they will be more negative answers than positive so i don't understand how you believe that i came here to here good things said about black gel or to try and fit into a social expectation.

    Im anti society! more individual.
    Just **** off, you're the biased person here,
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    (Original post by Mancini)
    What truth hurts, what exactly are you talking about? This is a typical line black girls like to write half the time it means nothing its just a silly overused defence mechanism.

    You painted yourself as the bad guy you painted yourself into a corner by specifically pointing out black females and Caucasian males in your initial post it has nothing to do with me. I am just pointing it out to the easily led.

    As I have mentioned before I have no problem with black females and Caucasian males getting on better and dating whatever suits you just don't pretend this thread is about understanding society a whole because its not. Its about communicating with white guys in order to understand why some of them may not be attracted to you and in turn you will probably change yourself to appeal more to them as I said before you are here to increase your self worth because you are person of low self esteem.
    You really are a dumbass,

    LOL you think I'm trying to communicate with guys here, thats why i made the post.

    I said my truth btw, mine, my opinion, stop getting so offended cause i don't agree with you.

    Just go before you embarrass yourself anymore than you have.
    You have no argument here, if you think i have a low self esteem, sure no problem. Now get lost.
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    (Original post by Sopheea)
    Im sorry did i direct my questions at just caucasian men, did i start with hey white guys what do you think about black girls, no . I asked everyone! guys and girls, a girl earlier had asked if it was just guys i wanted answers from, i said no.

    Yes i am black and thats why i asked specifically in the 3rd question but it wasn't, hey white guys what do you think, it was a general question, for everyone, get the **** of your high horse.

    Im not even into dating for heavens sakes, why on earth would i change to impress when i don't even date.

    The last question was taken from a psychology class we had that talked about racial dating. I was interested in finding answers that might be similar to the answers we got in my high school survey thats why it was included smart ass.

    Gosssh its girls like you with all your pent up anger, and false assumptions that make life difficult for people that are just trig be good and honest, you are probably projecting all your thoughts about yourself on me, i advice you don't do that, smart people get to know others before they make judgements.

    This was never a personal thing and you are taking it so personal, you have issues, and i don't, go deal with yours and stop bothering me. Move along and stop looking to fight with a person, all you've done is point fingers and accuse on a post that is just looking for simple answers, really simple answers.

    Besides any one that makes a post like this know that they will be more negative answers than positive so i don't understand how you believe that i came here to here good things said about black gel or to try and fit into a social expectation.

    Im anti society! more individual.
    Just **** off, you're the biased person here,

    Critical thinking and use of logic is obviously not something you are very good at, this is quite scary coming from an aspiring lawyer.

    Calling me a trouble maker because you know I caught you out and have no valid argument. lol your replies to my post is basically a massive moan lol typical but expected of you, I will let you rant on in your treasured thread .

    I exposed you for what you are a while ago
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    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    First things first, I just want to put this to you - being a person from an ethnic minority is not a bad thing, nor a stigma. Being a person from a ethnic minority doesn't not make you into some kind of untouchable or a less desirable person to be in contact with.
    never said it was a bad thing, stigma or make you an untouchable.
    my comments were also not about contact but about having a family with.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    Personally, I find your use of the phrase "a minority" insulting and degrading in comparison with "a white British person", as if a person's ethnicity shrouds or sullies their state as a person. Or as if simply being from ethnic minority has set them back 10 steps in life already, regardless of anything else.
    Well my reasons for fitting the profile

    Affluence because as i mentioned in the post. non affluent people rarely tend to manage their families in the same way. therefore their partner selection is different. ok so now we've established why i've picked affluent backgrounds rather then your more average background. they tend to profile on benefit & social status rather than love & beauty when it comes marriage.


    ok so why white? well the OP kinda gave a nod that she wanted white guys opinions on black girls. i think alot of people have agreed on that already.

    so putting it from a white perspective kinda fits inline with the OP topic.

    secondly (not in order of importance) my point for picking white is to do with them being the majority in this country. both in working and middle class areas.

    i mentioned black women at the very start of my post claiming that my post was inspired by what i had scene middle classy white guys say in their posts on here. and their comments made me think. i dont agree with their points. but their points acted as stimulus for what i wrote.

    so my point was about men from those backgrounds dating minorities.
    i only mention black women twice at the beginning of my post and mention white people once.
    my point was to make it apply to all minorities. which is what i believed the issue to be about. after my opening i make comparisons as majority mixing with minority.

    according to many minorities they do feel like they've been set back because of their ethnicity. there would not be so many schemes to assist and support and campaign if there was no issues.

    in country where you are the minority you are going to be restricted compared to those who have connections already. even if you are from the same status.

    however i do believe a rich white guy would have more mobility and business interest from others if he was in say nigeria than a rich black man of the same equivalent would have in the uk. maybe you think im wrong in that belief. but from my experiences that's what if come to.


    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    Next there is your wonderful generalisation of "minorities complain a lot because they have it hard" Hahaha I'm sorry, I must forgotten about all those times when I cursed and complained about my wretched ethnicity!
    you laugh but some people have had some really tough experiences.

    i guess my point was not that minorities complain a lot. cause everyone does. but its a complaint that you cannot share if you are of their same minority. for example. if you are right wing and claim minorities dont have any issues in life they just make excuses. thats bad. but if you are left wing and believe minorities have a harder time in a country than the majority. then you get the response that you have. so you've kinda illustrated my point that you have a complaint to make. and im sure you still would if i took the right wing tone too.

    kinda leads to the whole point that theres just no point in engaging. unless you are the minority. because any thoughts you have will be wrong. someone will have an issue. i've been with girls and agree'd with their own points and then been argued with because they didnt like me thinking the same thing. but thats what happens if you try to agree with someone who has cognitive dissonance. which isnt a problem outside of race. but if your at risk of being called racist. its a pretty heavy subject. and one best avoided like the plague. which is hard to do if your dating a minority. so best thing is to just not. then you don't need to have the trouble.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    There are people in ethnic minority that have it hard, and some that have it easy.
    in regards to the easy thing i'd reintroduce you to the point i made earlier about the advantage of white privilege in both black majority or white majority. i'd say the only place white privilege does not really exist is in places like japan, china and maybe zimbabwe.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    This also applies equally to the ethnic majority. However due to the fact that the ethnic majority is a majority there will be more people who have it easier which will be more visible but regardless many people do not.
    yes there will be more majority people who are successful. so it is therefore the majority who will have those networks and social circles that they share that are hard for outsiders to penetrate. hence the whole glass ceiling.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    Nevertheless, to make such a generalised comment is incorrect as you created this lovely scenario where the white British person is automatically more successful and sophisticated than the person from an ethnic minority, as if their ethnicity is some huge burden that has and inevitably always will hold them back in life.
    well im sure theres people who would argue it does hold them back in life. but i can tell if i focus on this its gonna a be another long back and forth and i just cba.

    also my point was that the success of the minority didnt make a difference in regards to the issues face by just being different from each other. my mention of the white persons affluence has already been explained above.

    also i never said people who are ethnic minorities were less sophisticated. so thats ur addition. not mine.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    You seem to find it hard to envisage the idea of a white British middle class family even being friends with a black/Asian etc middle class family that is as successful as them, with "businesses and high education".
    the business and high education comment was in regards to describing the profile of the guy i was taking the point of view of. which i've already explained.

    i never said ethnic minorities could not be equal. but i illustrated that even if they were there would still be issues due to the ethnic difference.

    also in my post i did mention mixing at social events but highlighted its uncommonality. and as i mentioned they would only socialise with them if they were of common benefit meaning they were of the same education and has business to add to the table. so seeing as i mentioned it i don't know why your saying i find it hard to envision.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    The problem that I had with your argument is that you seem to associate ethnic minorities with "having it hard" when a white women from an ethnic majority could have had it hard and have the same effect of "someone who complains that will take you back a step".
    hence my reason for mentioning the white middle class profile.
    they would not date a white women who had it hard either.
    i've heard these type of people have conversations and they will cut you out from certain "do's" because they think you have a chip on your shoulder. even if you had a hard start and came up from nothing.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    On the subject of mixed race children, you and your hypothetical wife are not the race, but you must have been able to understand things from her point of view enough to marry and have children?
    not really. you may think you understand her point of view. but as many people have heard. you will never know what its like to be black. also a white guy from a middle class background probably wont have very much experience with black people and will be learning about stuff a long his journey with the girl. but he will question things and have opinions of his own a long the way. this will cause arguments a long the way. couples have a enough problems understanding things from eachothers point of view without throwing race into the mix. and then at that even more of a hot potato being white/black mix in particular considering all the issues with racist connotations in white produced media, marketing, institutional racism the history of issues between the two people and the power dynamics and all that. i've heard of identity issues with 2 of my friends from middleclass backgrounds whos moms are black and dads are white. the way they view their moms is as sellouts cause they seemed to have a "dilutionist" agenda towards their blackness hence going for a white man. 1 of the 2 said he was embarrassed that his white dad new more about garvey and dubois than his mom did. but then i've seen black female/white male couples break up because the pro black side of the female contradicts with her love for the white guy. with the opposing dissonance of thought driving her nuts and them having arguments all the time with a lack of security in the future of the relationship. so "sell out" or "conscious " you cant win.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    In terms of identity, if the only and most important identity you feel you have in life is through your ethnicity then you haven't really experienced life. There is a lot more to the meaning of one's life than the colour of their skin. It's important, of course to know where you come from etc but does anybody really have the same identity as their child? Even if I'm the same colour as my mother, I am a different person born in a different time and inevitable I am going to experience things that she hasn't. Children aren't going to experience everything that their parents have nor vice versa, so if you cant coach your child as well because they are the different race/colour to you, then you'd only show yourself to be an inadequate parent.
    i think you know that theres a big difference between being born from two parents of different races, especially if those races are suppose to have a historic rivalry and being born into a culturally unified family.

    many mixed race people will testify to having a difficult time with their identity. but i have met one or two born from 2 mixed parents and their identity issues were significantly lesser. from what ive experienced anyway.

    being a parent is always going to be difficult and while you can definitely do it wrong, doing it "right" is something i dont think many parents make boast of.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    Again with the "your kid will always be the minority" - being from an ethnic minority is not a disadvantage in itself, it's people like yourself make it seem like a disadvantage by being so stubbornly biased against them.
    not fitting in is more often than not a disadvantage. when your not fitting in its because your exotically different and a novelty. just like being albino in nigeria is a disadvantage.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    So what, your child is the only mixed race child in the room? Does that make them less of a person, less interesting, less rich, are they any different because of the people they are surrounded by?
    thats a bit much isnt it? i mean i gotta say compared to the two other girls who have been arguing with me youve been quite good in this regard. not nearly as much adding made up stuff to make what i said more extreme so that its more black and white a point to argue with.

    but yea. said any of that. so the answer the above is of course no.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    If I were to get a room full of rich mixed race children and put a white rich child in there, wouldn't he be the minority?
    thats been my point the whole time. it doesnt matter so much on the race but more the minority status.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    "Minority status" is not some sort of permanent dirty stain. If I were to move back to my country of origin, I would not be "a minority".
    no but my point was explaining why not many people from that background and who culturally organise family units in that way want to marry a minority.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    Of course you wouldn't see that many mixed race children in posh independent/grammar schools, there aren't that many mixed race children in comparison to other ethnic groups and of course, it will then be whittled down to those who are smart enough and/or rich enough. It's just a case of statistics, but in all honesty, does it really matter how many people of the same ethnic group are around you?
    it can do.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    It doesn't guarantee any certain level of pedigree, or personality trait, or wealth, or even just how nice they are as a person.
    i dont think it does. but thats kind of the culture of middle class whites. its where the whole idea of pedigree kinda comes from with their dog breeding and stuff. culturally speaking they bring the same attitude to people. not saying they all do but its prolific enough an attitude from that sector of society.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    Anyway, the idea of marrying a person due to their wealth and family, rather than out of love, doesn't always work out as love is colourblind but greed is not.
    agreed. hence my point.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    And just to add, the reason you wouldn't know about many wealthy ethnic minorities holding "parties" for their children to socialise might be due to this thing called "cultural differences".
    maybe thats it.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    While I've been putting all ethnic minorities under one umbrella, each has their own and usually much more clearly defined traditions around courtship when looking for marriage, affluent or not.
    yea. arranged marriages as an example.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    I know that, at least for the place that I am from, it's a lot more complicated than throwing a load of rich children in a room with your children.
    i see. where are u from and what does it involve?

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    First of all, you don't even need to throw a party in the first place, your children have been around surrounded by a group of suitable partners since childhood and adolescence, things like wealth status and having a good education go without saying.
    well parties allow you to rinse yout your favorites cause its invite only.

    its interesting to know how your parents would try to ween out unwanteds and push you close to people they more desired you to be with in your culture. thats if they do that.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    Other people I know, have said that while they live in the UK, they know that they are going to go back to their country of origin to look for a suitable partner.
    kinda just proved my point

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    So when you think about the reason why ethnic minorities aren't marrying into a ethnic majority a lot, consider the fact that they might not actually want to.
    well if they dont want to why are they doing it? i can hazard a guess but im curious.

    (Original post by OddFutureChica)
    You make it sound like by a "white British person, with a 4x4 and a business" marrying "a minority" he's lifting her out of the deepest depth of poverty, as you've envisaged her as bringing nothing at all, no worldly possessions or values or positives to their relationship and that's simply not true.
    more likely than not he's benefiting her by introducing her to his network of other business people and useful contacts that he's made through all the dinner parties he's had in his life. and because he's a local with at least 3 generations of family having similer links to him. a rich girl from africa wont have nearly the same links across business world in the uk.

    and if shes not rich then shes marrying into rich. which is still a benefit.

    marrying someone from the local country and who is successful is always going to benefit you if you are foreign or from an immigrant group. its always going to benefit you in THAT country they are from anyway.

    yea im sure she brings stuff to the relationship.
    but what they care about is. is she rich? is she intelligent? is her personality good? does she have rich and powerful connections?

    so even if she is rich smart intelligent and her personality is cool. she probably wont have nearly the same amount of rich and powerful connections as one of the people he was having dinner parties with. and then you have the issues with cultural difference, and the whole arguments about race and stuff. then throwing ur child n the mix. its a mess.
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    1. What would be the race you like to date from the most and why?
    This is very hard for me to answer; as soon as I pinpoint my 'race preference' I see another girl from another race just as attractive. However, I would say at this moment in time I would generally like to date a Black/mixed girl; mixed being the most preferable to be perfectly honest.

    2. What would be the race you'd like to date from the least and why?
    I guess if I had to choose I would say East Asian maybe?

    3. A bit personal- Your opinion of black girls? (Be totally honest, I'm here to learn
    not judge)
    Honestly - I think there are quite a lot of black girls with serious attitude problems (more so than other races). That being said though I still find them physically attractive and I do know a lot of lovely black girls. I know quite a few black guys that almost exclusively go for white girls because of the whole attitude stigma attached to black girls.

    4. During a study i conducted i found that many people believed caucasian guys did not like dating black girls, is this true, for those that would say yes, why?
    I would say in a general sense; yes, kind of. I'm not particularly sure why though. There are plenty of white guys including myself that would date black girls though. I guess for some reason black girls aren't much of a preference to white guys...?
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    (Original post by Mancini)
    Critical thinking and use of logic is obviously not something you are very good at, this is quite scary coming from an aspiring lawyer.

    Calling me a trouble maker because you know I caught you out and have no valid argument. lol your replies to my post is basically a massive moan lol typical but expected of you, I will let you rant on in your treasured thread .

    I exposed you for what you are a while ago
    Tbh you sound like a crazy person.

    What are you even talking about with this exposing thing. What do you want here??? You didn't even hav an argument, am i the only one seeing this. You're here to accuse not talk intelligently. Stop assuming things about a person you've never met.

    Honestly you're not making any sense all I'm hearing from you is I'm an uncle tom with a low self esteem, and I've said i hear ya, so what else do you want, if you've achieved your goal and you hate the thread so much why are you still here?
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    (Original post by matthewduncan)
    Maybe some people just like what they look like?
    or like what they are attracted to.
    I can actually see why black women and white men isnt the most common thing out there infact I know why
    Omg thank goodness someone said it, people usually like to be with people like them, or exact opposites, its not always about racism
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    (Original post by Ambrosia_angel)
    What about sticking to the topic?

    My opinion of black women, white men relationships is that I don't care. If black women are the least desirable then why does that matter. I do think that social wise we are at the bottom. Women are lower than men and black people are lower than white. But it's what you make of it. One of the richest self made millionaires (maybe billionaire. Not sure) in the world is a black women. She came from a seriously poor background and suffered a lot of abuse. When she was young she would have been considered like any other black girl. The lowest social class. Yet she did something to combat that and has made herself rich. Oprah's only one person but I just want to point out that she would have been considered another "black girl" before she became rich

    At the end of the day who cares whether white men don't see you to be attractive. I know a lot of black women and white men are creating relationships for reasons I've already stated. Black women do have a stereotype and I think the media AND we play up to it. Personally I'm a very insecure and shy person. There's a lot of things I dislike about myself (but my skin is definitely not at the top of that list unless in reference to scars and spots).
    It may seems like the end of the world but life is what you make it and if you lie your life wondering why white men or men as a whole don't see you as attractive then that's no way too live. Be more confident. Don't play up to stereotypes. Never change your skin colour or hair for anyone. EVER! Please don't bleach your skinv___v

    Also stop wearing weaves. They are nasty. Most men of all races hate them.
    Agreed with most of your post except the weave bit. You just said never change your hair for anyone then went on to say 'stop wearing weaves, they are nasty, most men hate them. Bit contradictory. Why should we stop wearing weaves just cause 'most men hate them' shouldn't we do what makes us feel more comfortable? Shouldn't people make their own decisions about what they want to do with their own hair?
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    Can people pleas stop making personality judgements and discuss opinions on here, thats what this thread is for.

    All this negativity is really not going to help us understand each other
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I said white people. And I never denied who owned black beauty businesses its just I don't understand why Im personally responsible for supporting these people. They could be from a completely different background, country or continent. the only thing we have in common is our colour. I will word it differently. Is it right that i ask a white person from England to turn off the Oprah Winfrey show to watch a talk show hosted by a Russian man just because he is white and in his community.

    I don't disagree with any of your points. i just want to understand why you think all black people are from the same country, background, religion or community. Why should I feel bad about purchasing from a better supplier just because their race is different to mine? I am open minded and so you could possibly persuade me that i have been a horrible person and have ignored my 'community'.

    I already answered a very similar question before so not gonna do it again you ask pretty trivial questions and give foolish examples.

    No I would not expect you to care about people from your community as a whole it's not a quality that can be found in such women, you know to care about their people.

    Which is why I don't find woman like you attractive due to the fact you are individualistic, materialistic, opportunists who can be sold to the highest bidder.

    Yes I understand many women have these characteristics it just happens to be found more in women like you.

    You have no sense of belonging , no strength of character these are not qualities I am attracted to in women because it adds nothing to a family nor community be it a black, white, Asian multicultural community doesn't matter.

    We seem to live in modern society in the age of me,me,me the age of the individual and this is what I am touching upon here when I state you do not care for your community you think there are no consequences for ones actions.

    I am not questioning your loyalty to the black community specifically it could be any community. However I do believe in black women who seek approval from white men,these selfish traits are more likely to be found and I will point it out where I see it.
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    (Original post by Sopheea)
    Can people pleas stop making personality judgements and discuss opinions on here, thats what this thread is for.

    All this negativity is really not going to help us understand each other

    You are a massive hypocrite you are the first person to call names and stick labels at people than type this lol are you actually aware of yourself and what you type?
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    Tbh you sound like a crazy person.

    What are you even talking about with this exposing thing. Whabuyt do you want here??? You didn't even hav an argument, am i the only one seeing this. You're here to accuse not talk intelligently. Stop assuming things about a person you've never met.

    Honestly you're not making any sense all I'm hearing from you is I'm an uncle tom with a low self esteem, and I've said i hear ya, so what else do you want, if you've achieved your goal and you hate the thread so much why are you still here?

    How many more names can your small brain come up with? You insecure, low self esteem black girl feel free to send them my way.


    Be a bit more creative though uncle Tom is pretty tame.
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    (Original post by Sopheea)
    Can people pleas stop making personality judgements and discuss opinions on here, thats what this thread is for.

    All this negativity is really not going to help us understand each other
    People aren't going to like people's opinions. If you start a race preference thread (specially one that asks specifically about black girls) you were always going to get some negativity. People don't like to be called the ugliest race (understandably), its as simple as that.
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    (Original post by Mancini)
    You are a massive hypocrite you are the first person to call names and stick labels at people than type this lol are you actually aware of yourself and what you type?
    I made a spelling error that would be perfectly understandable, of course you are searching for all the res in my ways and could not help pointing it out.

    Your first reply to me included a claim that i had a low self esteem, and i was here to get compliments from guys, no white guys because I'm a self hating jim crow. Right.

    Every other follow up reply just emphasised this point plus you began to call me a hypocrite like you just did.

    You came on here and the first thing you did was judge me, and cowmen me.

    I am not a ****ing holy being, I'm human, what did you expect me to do, sit there and watch you insult me, without saying nothing.

    You, as far as i am concerned are the hypocrite, looking for a fight, every reasonable argument i gave you ignored but only chose to reply the replies i gave you with the most offensive or easily manipulative sentences i made.

    Im now trying to make things peaceful on my thread, and you quote this an once again give you judgement.

    Honestly, i am a reasonable person but I'm not naturally nice, you are hiding behind a computer screen and saying ****, causing trouble but ill bet if we were face to face you'd squirm and keep your big mouth shut.

    If any one else truly believed what you believed/believe about me they would have said the same thing, exactly the same thing but you are the only one here running your mouth and trying to prove you are a hard ass with no facts no figures no arguments, just repetitions of the same judgement.

    This is as far as i can indulge you, if you want to get your point across do it intelligently and not like a grade school kid, if anyone else thinks as you do and can make me see that intelligently i will have a conversation with them with no name calling, or false judgements. Now **** off, bother someone else.

    And let me try and bring back my head to the peaceful state it was i before you got me all ****ed up
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    Yea i get that, both sides of an argument will be upset, but, at least I'm hoping people could try to talk calmly without accusing each other of random things not related to the thread. Its a long shot but a girl can try
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    Guys is it possible to kick someone off a thread, or something like that.

    Im i being crazy for being upset with this girl.

    Someone show me how please
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    (Original post by Rlove95)
    People aren't going to like people's opinions. If you start a race preference thread (specially one that asks specifically about black girls) you were always going to get some negativity. People don't like to be called the ugliest race (understandably), its as simple as that.
    Yea i get that, both sides of an argument will be upset, but, at least I'm hoping people could try to talk calmly without accusing each other of random things not related to the thread. Its a long shot but a girl can try
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I was not boasting, far from it tbh. I was merely giving you a background information of how I look like. I do not "revel in male attention", I actually dislike it, and it makes me uncomfortable. I was just using my experience to show that "black" women are not viewed as ugly as TSR seems to think. If I GET COVERED UP WITH NO SKIN ON SHOW AND WEAR VERY LOOSE CLOTHING, BUT STILL GET THIS TYPE OF ATTENTION, THEN I GUESS I AM NOT AS UGLY AS YOU SEEM TO THINK I AM. I even get puzzled as to why I get this type of attention, please I do not even court their attention to begin with. I guess this kind of attention is reserved for other "beautiful" races, who are far from black right? It angers you that an "ugly" black girl gets this type of attention. NO IT CANNOT BE, SHE MUST DRESS LIKE A WHORE BECAUSE GUESS WHAT SHE IS BLACK, THEY ALL ARE WHORES, RIGHT?

    Wow, calling me a "whore" indirectly. Like I said before, I am a Christian (I am not trying to be sanctimonious) hence I do not wear revealing clothing. Whenever I wear trousers, it always covers my bum.

    I have always been conservative from a young age about my body, seeing as it is "the temple of God" 1 Corinthians 3 vs 16.

    Thanks very much for further proving my point, your likening me to a whore shows that you see black women as sexual objects, which you mentioned in one of your posts on this thread, I can't be bothered to go through 15 pages to fish it out.

    The last time I was oggled like this, I actually wore a blazer, blouse underneath it, and trousers with flat shoes, but still got men looking at me like I was a model or something. DOES A WHORE DRESS LIKE THIS?! DO TELL ME?! MY WHOLE BODY WAS COVERED, WITH NOTHING ON SHOW, EXCEPT MY NECK. I CANNOT REMEMBER WHEN SHOWING ONE'S NECK MADE ONE A WHORE!!

    I do pity the "black" woman you will end up with because you think so little of them. You have a superiority complex, which you need to get over, because it won't benefit you in this world, and would just make you bitter and unhappy. Being "caucasian" is just a skin colour mate, it's just melanin, no need to get all worked up about it, like it is some kind of achievement.
    oh dear. you didnt make a mistake and misquote me. your just crazy.

    you are narcissistic. out of all the stuff i wrote in my last response to you, you pick the one thats a comment about how you look.

    all you had to do was say you are attractive and that men show interest you. that would of been a much more classy way of illustrating the point.

    instead you wrote two paragraphs about how men just cannot get over how life shatteringly out of this world you look. adding layer upon layer of an already saturated point. hence your revelling.

    its also sad that your so focused on what non black men think of you. clearly your looking for acceptance. especially with your kerry washington comparison. out of all the women with her skin tone you pick her who is famous for her role in a series entirely based on her interracial affair.

    where are you? where in the uk has so many men that behave like this towards women?

    i dont think its beauty that makes men behave in such a disrespectful manor. its usually lust. they wouldnt be doing it if they didnt think they had a chance of getting you. so clearly a lot of men think your easy for what ever reason.

    to be honest. i dont believe you.

    i used to work in photography as an assistant to a well known photographer and also did a little myself as well when i was living in london. models were essentially my colleagues and they never spoke of experiencing these things. so either you have some weird magical power of attraction or your making it up. or you live in some hole of a place thats full of leerish undignified men.

    where are you getting it from that i think black women are ugly?

    at no point have i claimed they are. in fact i've said quite the opposite.

    i know your insane. so its hard to follow logic. but i'll try to break it down.

    you cannot find me saying i think black women are ugly. FACT
    you cannot find me saying that i think your a whore simply because you are black. FACT

    in case you havent noticed. women dont often get treated like that. there might be an incident but nowhere near to the same bizzarre level your talking about and i think most of the girls in here would agree.

    do you know the difference between you being treated like a curb crawler.
    and me saying that your a whore cause your black?

    that is so ridiculously outrageous NO WONDER you have ended up in the church. if anyone needs jesus. its you. maybe he can fix ur crazyness.

    i mean... black women are all whores? really?

    by the way. telling me your christian means NOTHING to me.
    "are you lieing?" "of course not im a christian" <do you realise how stupid that sounds. cause thats how you sound.

    oh god... we've got someone who quotes scripture...

    just a tip. if you want people to believe that you are modest. i wouldnt go on and on and on about it like your trying to cover up something. it seems suspicious. your so insacure that you cant just say. "no i dont dress like that" you have to tell me your outfit? and then also quote the bible and say your a christian and its because of that yea? not like your own good sense. its the bible yea? cool.

    so. with all your insane accusations. you decide that the one thing you will even CONSIDER referencing the fact that i spoke about black women being viewed as sexual objects. the reason you consider referencing this is probably because its the only thing you've accused me of that is true.

    but even then u've messed that up.

    i did not say that I myself view black women as sexual objects.
    i spoke about black women being portrayed as and viewed as sexual objects by the media. the men treated you as a sexual object. and im not one of them.

    more capslock and crazy.

    ok so let me get this straight
    i think i am superior because im white?
    i think black women are whores and sexual objects?
    i also think they are ugly?
    but i also want a black partner?

    riiiiight.

    fact is. your a lier. you've just made a load of stuff up.

    stick to your bible and hating mixed race people cause they take away your light skin superiority complex (which others have noted as you can see)

    argue with me like an adult.
    and not some emotional wreck.

    make points.
    real points.
    points made from real things i have said?

    i would also recommend you get some counselling
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    (Original post by Sopheea)
    Yea i get that, both sides of an argument will be upset, but, at least I'm hoping people could try to talk calmly without accusing each other of random things not related to the thread. Its a long shot but a girl can try
    I don't think talking would help cause it'd only be encouraging people to elaborate on how horrible black girls(or whatever race they would never date - most likely black girls in this case) are, which never ends well. But it's nice that you tried.
 
 
 
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