Topless protesters disrupt Muslim conference, Paris Watch

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(Original post by Synchyst)
What on earth are you talking about? I'm not even following up this discussion -.-".
Ah so just trolling then

Careful you don't follow in Ermm's footsteps
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Debates work by threatening to throw rocks at people who hold differing opinions? You have a very strange way of debating.


I would also go so far as the say a majority, if not an overwhelming majority, of people agree with his 'backward views.'
You seem to miss the bit were i used a metaphor of 'throwing rocks at trolls' (a literately device i know but works well enough on a forum)

You do know he said the protesters should have been beheaded

(Original post by Synchyst)
I would have decapitated the pair of them for being topless.

Now think again are you really telling me the majority agree with this!
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You seem to miss the bit were i used a metaphor of 'throwing rocks at trolls' (a literately device i know but works well enough on a forum)

You do know he said the protesters should have been beheaded

Now think again are you really telling me the majority agree with this!
No, I literally just read the one comment and prematurely based my opinions on that! Sorry.

Pretty sure the guy is sympathetic to ISIS anyway, he should just be ignored.
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No, I literally just read the one comment and prematurely based my opinions on that! Sorry.

Pretty sure the guy is sympathetic to ISIS anyway, he should just be ignored.
No problem

as I said he's a troll who's been banned from this site multiple times so my posts to him are the equivalent of 'throwing rocks at a troll'

But yes

Original post by Synchyst)
I would have decapitated the pair of them for being topless.

ISIS sympathiser all over
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(Original post by BaconandSauce)
You do know he said the protesters should have been beheaded
Where did I state this?
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Pretty sure the guy is sympathetic to ISIS anyway, he should just be ignored.
Apparently, Bacon and Sauce can't stop replying...
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You're quite an ignorant individual aren't you? I'm surprised you're a PS Helper on this site. Oh well, this is freedom of speech.
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It's hard to tell where the satire begins with Islam.
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As a muslim myself, seeing extremists like this genuinely irritates me. From what I've learnt about Islam I've always been given the impression that women in general are emotionally more sensitive than men and hence it's our role in society to treat them with care and love. It's crazy how the delusion of extremists can give the impression of Islam being a completely different religion entirely. For goodness sake, Islam itself means 'peace' so what these individuals think can be gained in beating their wives is beyond me.

What annoys me is that us normal muslims always have to deal with the consequences of their actions too. More people than I would like will see these extremist headlines and assume that all muslims share the same views/are similar in character...
Islam doesn't mean "peace", it means "submission".
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You're quite an ignorant individual aren't you?
I'm always willing to learn something new. What am I ignorant of that you feel is relevant?

Or are you just using ignorant to mean You don't agree with me, I don't like that and I need to insult you to show it?

Perhaps you can also tell me how you think my views on this matter are related to my ability to give useful feedback on personal statements? For the life of me I can't see a connection.
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(Original post by Blue_Mason)
What was the purpose of going topless?
I can never understand feminism, I mean why?
They hate me. I once had a hard on looking at them and a girl slapped me.
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I'm always willing to learn something new. What am I ignorant of that you feel is relevant?
The fact that you persistently hold outdated and antiquated views on the use of certain terms?

Or are you just using ignorant to mean You don't agree with me, I don't like that and I need to insult you to show it?
Nope, just factual statements.

Perhaps you can also tell me how you think my views on this matter are related to my ability to give useful feedback on personal statements? For the life of me I can't see a connection.
It contributes to your overall character.

If you are stubborn in holding antiquated views, and refuse to update and modernise the transliterated terms, then that may suggest that the advice that you are giving to other people is neither relevant nor is it correct. In fact, it may be detrimental to their application.

And all because you refuse to modernise your terminology.
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It is rather shocking that I persist in calling Mohammed a cruel slave-trading mediaeval warlord who manipulated the people around him by pandering to their superstitious beliefs when Moslems would have me call him a model for human behaviour for all time, isn't it?
I'm concerned for your well being.

All these personal attacks on a person who lived 1400 years ago, whose ideas and concepts you neither follow nor practise, who takes up much of your time and to whom you resort to making snide comments when this person has never personally done anything to you.

It's all rather unhealthy, in my humble opinion but as always, you'll disagree.
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That was briefly discussed earlier, if I remember correctly, and a Moslem gave us an explanation that essentially meant that, because of the vagaries of Arabic, it could mean whatever nice word a Moslem wants it to mean.
Ah, the wonders of Arabic eh.
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I only sought to challenge the scathing comments regarding the organisers and Muslims in general it seems, or am i wrong to challenge the view that all Muslims beat their wives:rolleyes:
What a ridiculous strawman.

You have been asked at least twice now about the Quranic passage that permits a husband to hit his wife and you keep evading the questions.
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I don't think binge drinking would actually double your only brain cell, though it may dull it, and cause it to wither and die.

So if that's your aim, go right on ahead.
Wow you're so intelligent. Seriously I'm in absolute awe.
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Wow you're so intelligent. Seriously I'm in absolute awe.
At least your sarcasm game is on point.

Thank god for small mercies...
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(Original post by Errm336)
I don't think there was any valid criticism. It was clearly meant to insult and offend billions of people.

If they wanted to provide constructive criticism, then they should have had a debate. An equal platform where ideas are disseminated and discussed and people are free to make up their own minds.



You mean the same countries are are attempting to restrict freedoms because people are using them in ways which they didn't ever envisage?

So it's "You can have your freedoms, as long as it doesn't run contrary to anything we want you to say".



You seem to be under many misconceptions so allow me to point you in the right direction.

You see, it's all very well setting yourself up on a pedestal and acting as a bastion for democracy and human rights but there is only so long you can keep up appearances before people open their eyes and see that it is bull****.

The major clash won't be between Muslims and Europeans, but between "righteous" people vs "hypocrites" in European countries.


In a democratic and increasingly individualistic society, you can't move ahead as a group until you are able to unify people under a common cause and this time around, it is Islam. Previously, it was communism, IRA and before that, Jews and a whole host of other people.

The reason it's not working at the moment is simply because of timing.

Democracy and human rights have been around for around 50 years and people can see that it's not working, either solving their own problems or actually contributing to their current levels of distress.


Democracy and human rights are nice concepts, but they have been hijacked by capitalism, and the concentration of wealth in the hands of a select few, who determine and drive the direction that society should move in.


To capitalism, Islam is an active threat due to two aspects:

a) Islam has socialist principles.
b) Islam has "fanatical adherents".


The latter may not be as useful but capitalism cannot stand the former. Hence, it has deemed Islam the enemy under the guise of human rights and democracy and you have fallen for it hook, line and sinker.


The coming war will not be along religious lines but between Individualism vs Collective.
This is wrong on so many levels. You have your right to say what you want and you can say anything we dont agree. Why do you think you or anjem chouldary has not been arrested? The same cant be said for charlie hebdo. They have been murdered.Sure they are not making constructive criticism but the term speech covers more than just criticism.


The clash is not between muslims or Europeans. Get your facts right. Its in between people who do not want to live in fear of violence vs people who wants to use violence against anything they disagree with.
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Why do you think you or anjem chouldary has not been arrested?
Choudary has been, and is currently in custody.
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Choudary has been, and is currently in custody.
But how long has that taken

and hasn't he been released on bail?
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