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    Dre most certainly used a ghostwriter.
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    (Original post by LittleMissMay)
    you do know that skill is something that is taught right?
    then u said this

    (Original post by LittleMissMay)
    Sure some might naturally have the talent

    which one is it? lmao


    (Original post by LittleMissMay)
    Dr. Dre couldn't make a banger if he tried
    u know nothin about rap lmao

    (Original post by LittleMissMay)
    And yes everybody has a ghost writer.
    u know nothin about the industry



    exit the thread man

    (Original post by LittleMissMay)
    Granted...they might have natural musical talent aka a good ear and rhythm.
    which makes em capable of making a hit

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    (Original post by Latin Beauty)

    cuz not everybody has skill

    dummy
    No. "cuz not everybody" has talent.

    Yes, everyone, can develop skill. You can still praise your rappers but you should be happy to know that maybe one day you too can develop the "skill" and become a superstar
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    (Original post by Latin Beauty)
    then u said this
    which one is it? lmao
    Are you winding people up right now or are you seriously just mentally challenged?

    For the last time

    skill

    is not

    talent

    I said skill is taught and learned

    talent is natural and can't be taught or learned
    I never stepped back on that :confused: and I wish you'd stop using them interchangeably/like they're the same thing. They're not!!!
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    (Original post by LittleMissMay)
    No. "cuz not everybody" has talent.

    Yes, everyone, can develop skill. You can still praise your rappers but you should be happy to know that maybe one day you too can develop the "skill" and become a superstar
    its funny u use googles definition...which gets changed all the time...to define properties in hip hop...somethin that aint never changed

    at least use a dictionary that defines stuff according to music

    exit stage left buddy
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    (Original post by Latin Beauty)
    its funny u use googles definition...which gets changed all the time...to define properties in hip hop...somethin that aint never changed

    at least use a dictionary that defines stuff according to music

    exit stage left buddy
    What!?

    :rolleyes:

    WoodyMKC hezzlington Let's just step around this fool and continue the thread shall we?!
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    (Original post by LittleMissMay)
    Are you winding people up right now or are you seriously just mentally challenged?

    For the last time

    skill

    is not

    talent

    I said skill is taught and learned

    talent is natural and can't be taught or learned
    I never stepped back on that :confused: and I wish you'd stop using them interchangeably/like they're the same thing. They're not!!!
    the point is u need skill to make a hit

    the boy said no

    i said biggie had skill to make juicy

    u claim skill is something learned...then u said some have natural talent

    so which is it that he has?

    lmao goddamn
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    (Original post by LittleMissMay)
    What!?

    :rolleyes:

    WoodyMKC hezzlington Let's just step around this fool and continue the thread shall we?!
    proving how slow u are

    u use a dictionary of google to understand properties in hip hop

    the dictionary is changed all the time but its reliable to u huh lmao proving my point...u have no knowledge of the industry and music itself

    instead of using a hip hop dictionary to find out what skill is according to music

    u embarrass yaself
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    The College Dropout is an absolute classic imo! Section.80 is probably my favorite K.dot album, maybe not the best one or most impactful but I enjoy life the most when I have one of those songs going
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    (Original post by hezzlington)
    I think artists get legendary status slapped on to them a little bit easier when they die, nostalgia and all that. Aaliyah, Kurt Cobain (the latter being totally undeserved), Hendrix, Bob Marley. (Bob Marley is definitely a GOAT in his genre, however)
    What the **** did I just read?

    This is utterly insane!
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    oh yea...dodged every question....still aint tell me whether biggie had skill or natural talent to make the hit

    still aint prove everybody has a ghostwriter

    i guess nwa - alwayz into somethin aint a banger...dre day...deep cover...lil ghetto boy.....not bangers....

    the chronic is considered one of the best albums...who rapped and wrote all those lyrics lmao

    according to WoodyMKC LittleMissMay there is no difference between trinidad james and nas....cuz everybodys learned it somewhere and credit goes to the production people

    then she uses a white laymans terms dictionary whose definitions change every year to define hip hop LMFAO!!!

    lmao british kids born in the 90s tryna school me....the hell outta here

    i just showed my homeboy who work in the industry and an old head from the states this....its comedy they tell me i shouldnt even waste my time and i wont

    im done
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    (Original post by Latin Beauty)
    oh yea...dodged every question....still aint tell me whether biggie had skill or natural talent to make the hit

    still aint prove everybody has a ghostwriter

    i guess nwa - alwayz into somethin aint a banger...dre day...deep cover...lil ghetto boy.....not bangers....

    the chronic is considered one of the best albums...who rapped and wrote all those lyrics lmao

    according to WoodyMKC LittleMissMay there is no difference between trinidad james and nas....cuz everybodys learned it somewhere and credit goes to the production people

    then she uses a white laymans terms dictionary whose definitions change every year to define hip hop LMFAO!!!

    lmao british kids born in the 90s tryna school me....the hell outta here

    i just showed my homeboy who work in the industry and an old head from the states this....its comedy they tell me i shouldnt even waste my time and i wont

    im done
    Yeah, you just happened to have two people from the industry on hand :rofl: You're AGAIN taking what I've said out of context. Sure, back in the 90s, rappers like Nas and Biggie were popular, and they also just happened to be good... but if you're telling me that sales = skill, you're deluded for all the reasons I've already pointed out to you several times.

    Oh, and ****ing LOL at this part:

    "the chronic is considered one of the best albums...who rapped and wrote all those lyrics lmao"

    With that, you just showed us all that you know nothing about the history of hip hop. Anyone who does, knows that Dr Dre was never a writer, he had ghost writers on all his albums. Sort of proves my point as well - his first 2 albums are all time classics, but as a rapper everyone agrees that his delivery is sloppy and he doesn't write his own lyrics - proof that you don't need to be a good rapper to sell. Not taking credit away from all the greats like Big, Pac and all the others - they were genuinely some of the most skilled rappers of all time, but again that's not to say that every hip hop album sells because the rapper is any good, a lot of them sell because they have that mainstream sound. ****ing Nelly and Lil Wayne are among the top 10 selling rappers of all time, please don't try and tell me it's because they're as good as the likes of 2Pac or Biggie. Their albums sell for different reasons, because they appeal to an audience who like the sound of their music and don't really care for the depth of their lyricism.

    P.S. I wasn't even born in the 90s doe
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    (Original post by WoodyMKC)
    Yeah, you just happened to have two people from the industry on hand :rofl: You're AGAIN taking what I've said out of context. Sure, back in the 90s, rappers like Nas and Biggie were popular, and they also just happened to be good... but if you're telling me that sales = skill, you're deluded for all the reasons I've already pointed out to you several times.

    Oh, and ****ing LOL at this part:

    "the chronic is considered one of the best albums...who rapped and wrote all those lyrics lmao"

    With that, you just showed us all that you know nothing about the history of hip hop. Anyone who does, knows that Dr Dre was never a writer, he had ghost writers on all his albums. Sort of proves my point as well - his first 2 albums are all time classics, but as a rapper everyone agrees that his delivery is sloppy and he doesn't write his own lyrics - proof that you don't need to be a good rapper to sell. Not taking credit away from all the greats like Big, Pac and all the others - they were genuinely some of the most skilled rappers of all time, but again that's not to say that every hip hop album sells because the rapper is any good, a lot of them sell because they have that mainstream sound. ****ing Nelly and Lil Wayne are among the top 10 selling rappers of all time, please don't try and tell me it's because they're as good as the likes of 2Pac or Biggie. Their albums sell for different reasons, because they appeal to an audience who like the sound of their music and don't really care for the depth of their lyricism.

    P.S. I wasn't even born in the 90s doe
    yea thats why pac...big...nas..sell a lot and theyre all good

    yet trinidad james...royce da 5 9 didnt sell much and they aint good

    u still aint have no proof for the ghostwriter

    u mix ur opinions with facts

    if somebody sells a lot...they are good...regardless of what u think of em....future is a dope rapper he went platinum...but ask for my personal opinion? he alright

    now ud be like future is trash cuz of this and that....yet he went platinum

    thats my other point....u and that other kid...know nothin about music and the industry

    for u...anybody can be a great rapper...just get a ghostwriter a good producer and practice lmao..cuz its all in the background team and not the rapper huh

    u are comedy
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    (Original post by Latin Beauty)
    yea thats why pac...big...nas..sell a lot and theyre all good

    yet trinidad james...royce da 5 9 didnt sell much and they aint good

    u still aint have no proof for the ghostwriter
    As I said, different artists sell for different reasons. You're again avoiding responding directly to the examples I've given you. I also hope you're not insinuating that Royce isn't a good rapper.

    What more proof is needed that Dr Dre uses ghost writers??? It's common knowledge. EVERYONE knows. Look at his album credits FFS... for example, on 2001, Still D.R.E. lists Jay Z as a writer - Jay Z wasn't even on the track. On The Message, Dre isn't even listed among the writing credits even though he was the only rapper on the track - he's only listed in the writing credits for the other tracks because he made the beats, but Lord Finesse made that beat so Dre can't take any writing credit for any part of it.
    It's thought that Eminem and Snoop did most of Dre's writing for that album.

    For someone who supposedly knows a lot about hip hop and knows all these people that work in the industry, I really shouldn't have to be explaining any of this to you. If your industry friends do exist, they'd be laughing at you if you showed them what you've written here.
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    (Original post by WoodyMKC)
    As I said, different artists sell for different reasons. You're again avoiding responding directly to the examples I've given you. I also hope you're not insinuating that Royce isn't a good rapper.

    What more proof is needed that Dr Dre uses ghost writers??? It's common knowledge. EVERYONE knows. Look at his album credits FFS... for example, on 2001, Still D.R.E. lists Jay Z as a writer - Jay Z wasn't even on the track. On The Message, Dre isn't even listed among the writing credits even though he was the only rapper on the track - he's only listed in the writing credits for the other tracks because he made the beats, but Lord Finesse made that beat so Dre can't take any writing credit for any part of it.
    It's thought that Eminem and Snoop did most of Dre's writing for that album.
    oh ok now its different reasons huh lmao!!!

    im sayin for the chronic...why mention another album

    man we already did this...the reason they sell is skill...

    future raps like hes sleepin and pulls it off good....thats his personal skill...

    this is what u do....oh no its the lyrics that somebody wrote him........

    so basically nas pac werent nothin...it was all ghostwriters and production teams

    more proof u dont know nothin bout the industry....the industry doesnt care about all that...whether u learned that skill or was born with it...can u do it like this and that or no?

    thats what makes a good rapper

    something u never knew lmao
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    (Original post by Latin Beauty)
    oh ok now its different reasons huh lmao!!!

    im sayin for the chronic...why mention another album

    man we already did this...the reason they sell is skill...

    future raps like hes sleepin and pulls it off good....thats his personal skill...

    this is what u do....oh no its the lyrics that somebody wrote him........

    so basically nas pac werent nothin...it was all ghostwriters and production teams
    Talking of skill, you have a serious knack for taking things out of context don't you :rofl:

    What do you mean "now"??? I've been saying the same thing the whole ****ing time, I've just tried to find different ways to explain it to your tiny little mind but clearly none of them have worked so far. I'm not going to keep repeating myself, you'll just misread it again. Go back to school.
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    (Original post by WoodyMKC)
    Talking of skill, you have a serious knack for taking things out of context don't you :rofl:

    What do you mean "now"??? I've been saying the same thing the whole ****ing time, I've just tried to find different ways to explain it to your tiny little mind but clearly none of them have worked so far. I'm not going to keep repeating myself, you'll just misread it again. Go back to school.
    show the post where u said it if not lets dead this
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    (Original post by Latin Beauty)
    show the post where u said it if not lets dead this
    Are you actually joking??? I've been saying it the entire time!!! This is just from the post before the last:


    (Original post by WoodyMKC)
    Yeah, you just happened to have two people from the industry on hand :rofl: You're AGAIN taking what I've said out of context. Sure, back in the 90s, rappers like Nas and Biggie were popular, and they also just happened to be good... but if you're telling me that sales = skill, you're deluded for all the reasons I've already pointed out to you several times.

    Oh, and ****ing LOL at this part:

    "the chronic is considered one of the best albums...who rapped and wrote all those lyrics lmao"

    With that, you just showed us all that you know nothing about the history of hip hop. Anyone who does, knows that Dr Dre was never a writer, he had ghost writers on all his albums. Sort of proves my point as well - his first 2 albums are all time classics, but as a rapper everyone agrees that his delivery is sloppy and he doesn't write his own lyrics - proof that you don't need to be a good rapper to sell. Not taking credit away from all the greats like Big, Pac and all the others - they were genuinely some of the most skilled rappers of all time, but again that's not to say that every hip hop album sells because the rapper is any good, a lot of them sell because they have that mainstream sound. ****ing Nelly and Lil Wayne are among the top 10 selling rappers of all time, please don't try and tell me it's because they're as good as the likes of 2Pac or Biggie. Their albums sell for different reasons, because they appeal to an audience who like the sound of their music and don't really care for the depth of their lyricism.

    P.S. I wasn't even born in the 90s doe
    If you take what I've said out of context one more time I'll not be replying to you.
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    (Original post by WoodyMKC)
    If you take what I've said out of context one more time I'll not be replying to you.
    I did that long ago
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    (Original post by WoodyMKC)
    Are you actually joking??? I've been saying it the entire time!!! This is just from the post before the last:




    If you take what I've said out of context one more time I'll not be replying to you.
    and i was tellin u skilled by industry standards and ur standards..

    this is my point now where i said u mix ur opinion with facts

    cuz u dont know the industry...u only know ur thoughts and think thats it

    i already answered this in the future platinum post....

    reread that address me or dead this and take the lesson for next time
 
 
 
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