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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    Actually the maximum starting salary for teachers in Inner London is £29970, which is pretty much £30k. It is possible at some schools, mainly for maths teachers.
    If they teach in a private school their salary is also likely to be higher than the public sector rates.


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    (Original post by Ras' Al Ghul)
    I feel like the sole purpose of this thread is so that you can argue with others and tell them why they're wrong.
    Not really.. I've only argued where appropriate.. If I'm wrong, someone corrects me - simples.

    The whole point of this thread is to detach salary from degree, and attach it to jobs. And tangential discussion around jobs/careers.
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    Degree: Computer Science
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    (Original post by Trapz99)
    Really? My school has never hired a teach first graduate. Most teachers don't do teach first anyway - pgce is the most common option. But I think some of the more difficult, struggling schools would definitely prefer teach first since the teachers that do that training are more experienced with dealing with difficult students. Most schools don't really mind.
    You are correct that the school my partner teaches in is 'difficult'. But she was talking about TF being more on the job and you're in a classroom earlier planning lessons etc, so you're more experienced once qualified compared to PGCE.

    I'm not a teacher myself but I thought I'd just share another perspective. Food for thought anyway.
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    Degree: Medicine
    Jobs: Doctor/surgeon
    Salary: I honestly have very little idea, really not here for the money. I'll go for 'comfortable'.
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    (Original post by Lawliettt)
    Unrealistic in the sense that it'll be so competitive that it's likely you won't get the salary from the specific advertised job. Not sure what you're failing to grasp here.
    You have absolutely no idea how likely it is that any particular individual will succeed in what they're aiming for. In individual cases, it may be very likely indeed, however many applicants they are competing with.

    The amount of people who come to threads like this just to **** on other people's ambitions, especially where they do so with absolutely no information on the applicant and little idea about the roles in question, is depressingly large. I assume that much of this sort of posting is motivated by bitterness.
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    Although you know this info already, allow my procrastination to begin

    Degree: Economics
    Jobs/Careers of Interest: Investment Banking
    Graduate Salary Expected: Sign on: £5,000, Base: £50,000, Annual bonus: £5,000 bringing overall expectation to £60,000

    Also, last week I met the head of HR at the bank I'm doing my internship in this summer and they said there's a solid chance of me getting a job offer after providing I perform well which would be conditioned to a 2:1 and consists of the following: £2,000 sign on, £38,000 base and an annual bonus (I wasn't told how much to expect). I expect it will be similar to the sign on bonus so total compensation to be around £42,000. However, I want to aim higher
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    (Original post by Breakingbank)
    Although you know this info already, allow my procrastination to begin

    Degree: Economics
    Jobs/Careers of Interest: Investment Banking
    Graduate Salary Expected: Sign on: £5,000, Base: £50,000, Annual bonus: £5,000 bringing overall expectation to £60,000

    Also, last week I met the head of HR at the bank I'm doing my internship in this summer and they said there's a solid chance of me getting a job offer after providing I perform well which would be conditioned to a 2:1 and consists of the following: £2,000 sign on, £38,000 base and an annual bonus (I wasn't told how much to expect). I expect it will be similar to the sign on bonus so total compensation to be around £42,000. However, I want to aim higher
    £5k bonus? Is that stub year or?

    Can't seem to find any intel on bonuses where you'll be interning. Btw, have you been placed in a group yet?


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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    £5k bonus? Is that stub year or?

    Can't seem to find any intel on bonuses where you'll be interning. Btw, have you been placed in a group yet?


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    stub, the first 6 months e.g. analyst 0 (if that is how it works?) or whatever they refer it to, probably expecting over £10,000 as a yearly bonus after that as an analyst 1, should have made that clear!

    I just did some digging and found out the bonus plan is 4% of your annual salary, so roughly £1,500 for the place I am interning at

    Not yet bro, hoping I get my desired choice. Haven't even been told which office location I am in. Should find out by the end of the month! Hoping for London but knowing my luck they'll ship me off to the Zimbabwe office or something
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    (Original post by Breakingbank)
    stub, the first 6 months e.g. analyst 0 (if that is how it works?) or whatever they refer it to, probably expecting over £10,000 as a yearly bonus after that as an analyst 1, should have made that clear!

    I just did some digging and found out the bonus plan is 4% of your annual salary, so roughly £1,500 for the place I am interning at

    Not yet bro, hoping I get my desired choice. Haven't even been told which office location I am in. Should find out by the end of the month! Hoping for London but knowing my luck they'll ship me off to the Zimbabwe office or something
    Ahh, yeah, for stub that sounds pretty reasonable. Been seeing some pretty mental numbers at US BBs/EBs but more average numbers at the European BBs/tier 2 shops for full-year An1, but overall I think bonuses are bouncing back.

    How come it's so specific? The 4% that is.

    LOOOOOL Zimbabwe.. Tbf, you could be a millionaire in Zimbabwe with just your internship money ahahaha. Fair game though, tell me when you find out.

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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Ahh, yeah, for stub that sounds pretty reasonable. Been seeing some pretty mental numbers at US BBs/EBs but more average numbers at the European BBs/tier 2 shops for full-year An1, but overall I think bonuses are bouncing back.

    How come it's so specific? The 4% that is.

    LOOOOOL Zimbabwe.. Tbf, you could be a millionaire in Zimbabwe with just your internship money ahahaha. Fair game though, tell me when you find out.

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    Jheeze, kinda expected in a way - US banks without fail, have constantly been outperforming all the others if I am not mistaken. I assume those mental figures still apply if you work in an EMEA office e.g. London of a US bank and it's not just above norm figures for the US region?

    No clue mate, just went through their website and it says something along the lines of all our employees will be entered into our annual bonus plan which is 4% of your annual salary

    Hahahahahah true! Will do bro
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    (Original post by Breakingbank)
    Jheeze, kinda expected in a way - US banks without fail, have constantly been outperforming all the others if I am not mistaken. I assume those mental figures still apply if you work in an EMEA office e.g. London of a US bank and it's not just above norm figures for the US region?

    No clue mate, just went through their website and it says something along the lines of all our employees will be entered into our annual bonus plan which is 4% of your annual salary

    Hahahahahah true! Will do bro
    US and EMEA numbers, applies across the board from what I've seen. And yeah, US BBs are smashing it right now..

    Ahh, fair. Interesting how it's a uniform bonus for everyone, hmm.. Might be more to it than that but dunno.
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    Degree: Law
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    (Original post by High Stakes)
    Yeah, they are quite rare. Option is still open though and I've seen a few pop up here and there so it's all good experience to try and get involved with any business-responsibility.

    I'm planning on trying to get as much experience as possible before even trying to start one from scratch. I've planned it out for a bit now and I have a general direction of how I'm gonna go about doing things.
    Got tips for those wanting to get into the tech industry without a compsci degree? or self-taught programmers?
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    (Original post by Hra)
    b.

    And for me rejecting this job would mean having my mum literally disown me which honestly I just don't want
    I feel you man, that familial pressure is a mad ting u dun'kno!!!
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    (Original post by TimmonaPortella)
    You have absolutely no idea how likely it is that any particular individual will succeed in what they're aiming for. In individual cases, it may be very likely indeed, however many applicants they are competing with.

    The amount of people who come to threads like this just to **** on other people's ambitions, especially where they do so with absolutely no information on the applicant and little idea about the roles in question, is depressingly large. I assume that much of this sort of posting is motivated by bitterness.
    Yeah... no. It doesn't take a genuis to work out that there aren't enough high paying jobs in the country for everyone graduating with a great degree to be on high wages.

    I'm doing civil engineering. It's perfectly reasonable for me to aim for a first and a great graduate scheme at one of the top employers in the country. That's called ambition. But for me to say i can REALISTICALLY expect 50k right away on the assumption that I'll get that specific job is deluded. There's nothing realistic about it. Chances are low but I'd want to work hard and aim high.

    And your 2nd paragraph must be aimed at someone else. That's essentislly what the person I was replying to was doing. It was basically:

    "Lol how can you expect 30k right out of uni? That's exactly what i was talking about. How deluded! You don't even know what job (Despite the guy basically saying a job)"

    "Oh by the way. I expect 50k + massive bonuses. It's realitic because I knew what I wanted since I was X years old. Unlike you guys who decided late."

    Ok mate. He sounds like one of those people who starts their CV with "ever since i was (insert age here), I've always wanted to do ______)"

    What type of person puts people down for aiming too high then has the audacity to say their wages will be massive with no prior experience because a big company will hire them.

    Then he makes himself look like a bigger dummy by saying it's because IB isn't broad so they're all focused onto that high paying job?? Which by the way isn't even true. Just like engineering, it's a versatile qualification. But if it was true then it'd lower his chances even more.

    He has no idea what he's talking about. He just rambled because someone called him out and he got embarassed.
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    (Original post by DIN-NARYU-FARORE)
    Got tips for those wanting to get into the tech industry without a compsci degree? or self-taught programmers?
    Got a bunch of advice, send me a PM as a reminder. I'm about to go out and study.
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    Degree: History of Art and French
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    Salary: 20-22K (I know lots of people believe HoA to be wasting a degree but ultimately you go to uni to study something you love and the arts/cultural sector is larger than most people think! The salary starts off basic but with more experience like most other things it is possible to do very well for yourself financially )
 
 
 
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