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    [QUOTE=Jamz115;67998342]Well I contacted my local Parliamentarian about this. Whilst he claims he cannot obviously involve himself in the process but he does agree this whole process has been completely unacceptable when I explained it and there shouldn't be a situation in the civil service where some people progress in the same campaign and others do not as the case may be here regarding 2066/15. He says he will contact both the Cabinet Office Minister (responsibility for Civil service as a whole ) and HMRC to find out what is going on. It's got beyond a joke as far as I'm concerned.[/QUOTE

    I wasn't in this campaign I applied for the HO positions in February this year so I came off that campaign
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    (Original post by PapaSmurf46)
    I wonder if I can ask a favour, it would be useful, especially for those who have had all checks complete to get an idea of your timeline, so those of us who may be further back can have an idea what is still to come...

    Here is mine

    Campaign CSR/2066/15
    12th August (Provisional Offer:O Grade)
    11th September: Health Cert and DBS received and sent
    29th September: Email received asking me to bring in ID as the ones submitted were out of date
    7th October: Took ID into Moira House (This was the earliest date offered to bring it in)

    Thanks in Advance!
    Hey. I was part of the graduate programme back last November and was offered an O role on the reserve list.
    I was offered this 16th Aug
    Went to produce ID 12 Sep
    Filled in and sent back health forms and DBS next stage part 3/4 weeks ago
    Access NI certificate done and sent 2 weeks ago and email confirming pre employment checks were complete last Thursday I think it was.
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    Got my checks completed email this morning! Looking forward to seeing you all there!
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    [QUOTE=liverpool75;67998584]
    (Original post by Jamz115)
    Well I contacted my local Parliamentarian about this. Whilst he claims he cannot obviously involve himself in the process but he does agree this whole process has been completely unacceptable when I explained it and there shouldn't be a situation in the civil service where some people progress in the same campaign and others do not as the case may be here regarding 2066/15. He says he will contact both the Cabinet Office Minister (responsibility for Civil service as a whole ) and HMRC to find out what is going on. It's got beyond a joke as far as I'm concerned.[/QUOTE

    I wasn't in this campaign I applied for the HO positions in February this year so I came off that campaign
    Yea he queried that with me. He said it would be a perfectly reasonable action for them to take to progress one campaign ie. Graduate campaign first before another ie. my one. which has been happening and I understand that. Problem I have is others in the 2066/15 campaign have had their situation progressed having had offers at the same time on August 11 from the same campaign as myself.
    He says that ought not be happening as the only distinction they are supposed to make is on a campaign by campaign basis and whether someone is internal/external shouldn't really come into it but we shall see what happens. Don't think its unreasonable to at least find out a clearer picture as to what is going on.
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    (Original post by liverpool75)

    Yea he queried that with me. He said it would be a perfectly reasonable action for them to take to progress one campaign ie. Graduate campaign first before another ie. my one. which has been happening and I understand that. Problem I have is others in the 2066/15 campaign have had their situation progressed having had offers at the same time on August 11 from the same campaign as myself.
    He says that ought not be happening as the only distinction they are supposed to make is on a campaign by campaign basis and whether someone is internal/external shouldn't really come into it but we shall see what happens. Don't think its unreasonable to at least find out a clearer picture as to what is going on.
    No I do agree if you don't ask you won't know....Good luck it has been a terrible process
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    (Original post by Jamz115)
    With the greatest respect... kez it's very easy to pass comment when you are on the inside when you are already in employment, when you can financially plan ahead with some surety. Have some thought for those who maybe are not currently in employment at all who are playing this waiting game who maybe cannot afford to put their life on hold whilst this process goes on. Everyone accepts there is a vigorous process and it has to be so as it is the government. My biggest issue is firstly when they tell you " it could take several weeks" and that fast becomes several months and secondly when there are several campaigns being recruited for at the same time. That seems illogical when they struggle with doing just one as it currently is.
    Yes I am lucky I am in permanent employment and now financially secure BUT it wasn't always like that for me. Although I applied for other jobs and was successful in those and worked another position until HMRC came up just at the right time and place when I was looking for a move to a 9-5. Also when I joined the department, I was interviewed in April and didn't start work until November so the process has always been long and drawn out and that was including me already having a CTC check and certificate and sending it to the department. So you are not the only one that has been through this process and been frustrated about it. Starting a new job should be a positive experience but it's just something the department can't seem to get right and we can't get everything right 100% of the time. Humans errors and mistakes happen and it's unfortunate. Also there are no differences made between internal and external staff applying for external positions apart from the fact that internal staff do not need pre-employment checks as they already work for the department and have had these checks completed.

    Anyway my colleague emailed E&C recruitment 2 weeks ago regarding formal offers and received a reply today stating they unable to confirm timescales for formal offers at this time. That was for 1320 campaign. The 20 working day timescale isn't up until the end of next week so he's hoping he will hear then.
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    (Original post by kezxo)
    Yes I am lucky I am in permanent employment and now financially secure BUT it wasn't always like that for me. Although I applied for other jobs and was successful in those and worked another position until HMRC came up just at the right time and place when I was looking for a move to a 9-5. Also when I joined the department, I was interviewed in April and didn't start work until November so the process has always been long and drawn out and that was including me already having a CTC check and certificate and sending it to the department. So you are not the only one that has been through this process and been frustrated about it. Starting a new job should be a positive experience but it's just something the department can't seem to get right and we can't get everything right 100% of the time. Humans errors and mistakes happen and it's unfortunate. Also there are no differences made between internal and external staff applying for external positions apart from the fact that internal staff do not need pre-employment checks as they already work for the department and have had these checks completed.

    Anyway my colleague emailed E&C recruitment 2 weeks ago regarding formal offers and received a reply today stating they unable to confirm timescales for formal offers at this time. That was for 1320 campaign. The 20 working day timescale isn't up until the end of next week so he's hoping he will hear then.
    Yea awk I understand your point of view don't get me wrong . When I contact CSR they say the balls in the court of the vacancy holder ie. HMRC .. then you contact them and they give the generic we don't give timeacales etc so it seems they are rebounding off eachother pass the buck.
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    (Original post by kezxo)
    Yes I am lucky I am in permanent employment and now financially secure BUT it wasn't always like that for me. Although I applied for other jobs and was successful in those and worked another position until HMRC came up just at the right time and place when I was looking for a move to a 9-5. Also when I joined the department, I was interviewed in April and didn't start work until November so the process has always been long and drawn out and that was including me already having a CTC check and certificate and sending it to the department. So you are not the only one that has been through this process and been frustrated about it. Starting a new job should be a positive experience but it's just something the department can't seem to get right and we can't get everything right 100% of the time. Humans errors and mistakes happen and it's unfortunate. Also there are no differences made between internal and external staff applying for external positions apart from the fact that internal staff do not need pre-employment checks as they already work for the department and have had these checks completed.

    Anyway my colleague emailed E&C recruitment 2 weeks ago regarding formal offers and received a reply today stating they unable to confirm timescales for formal offers at this time. That was for 1320 campaign. The 20 working day timescale isn't up until the end of next week so he's hoping he will hear then.
    Hi Kez,

    All employment checks now complete, also just waiting on a start date, lol. I can only assume that ex TSP (1667 campaign) are on the same timescales for formal offers? Hopefully a few of us will hear by the end of the month then, and find out which depts we are all going to. Will def tip my hat when I get that far, which dept are you in?
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    (Original post by MurphysLaw2471)
    Hi Kez,

    All employment checks now complete, also just waiting on a start date, lol. I can only assume that ex TSP (1667 campaign) are on the same timescales for formal offers? Hopefully a few of us will hear by the end of the month then, and find out which depts we are all going to. Will def tip my hat when I get that far, which dept are you in?
    Honestly I haven't got a clue. That was the email and news I heard today basically no timescales as yet. Just fingers crossed it's soon and preferably next week!

    I'm IBSC (individual businesses and small companies) compliance currently but there's a lot of change happening so don't know where I'll be by the time you start! Will keep in touch though
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    Just got a call from HMRC to produce documents tomorrow. I've offers for 2 jobs O and HO but they were unable to confirm which job it was for but I assume it's the first one CSR/2066 and I'm Belfast


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    I'm applying for the 2066/15 campaign and a few weeks ago I was asked to deliver documents to Lisburn which I done on time and by hand.
    Then last week or so I was asked to complete my Access NI - which again I completed on time and had them issue it directly to HMRC (address given in email)

    I have now just checked my application and it has been withdrawn without any notification or reason given.
    anyone had a similar experience?
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    (Original post by Mirror.It)
    I'm applying for the 2066/15 campaign and a few weeks ago I was asked to deliver documents to Lisburn which I done on time and by hand.
    Then last week or so I was asked to complete my Access NI - which again I completed on time and had them issue it directly to HMRC (address given in email)

    I have now just checked my application and it has been withdrawn without any notification or reason given.
    anyone had a similar experience?
    Was your access NI clear?


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    except for reduced penalty (unintentional) for driving without insurance, yes.
    I also declared this.
    I spoke to recruitment and they have no information as to why it was withdrawn either and they are the ones who completed the checks.
    My references were contacted last week and everything was fine on their end as well.
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    (Original post by Mirror.It)
    I'm applying for the 2066/15 campaign and a few weeks ago I was asked to deliver documents to Lisburn which I done on time and by hand.
    Then last week or so I was asked to complete my Access NI - which again I completed on time and had them issue it directly to HMRC (address given in email)


    I have now just checked my application and it has been withdrawn without any notification or reason given.
    anyone had a similar experience?
    I haven't even got to the point of being asked to produce documents. My advice would be get in touch with your local MP. It's been a shambolic campaign and they should be held to account as to what exactly is going on. You've nothing to lose now anyway but at least you should get an answer as they should not have withdrawn you for no reason. In addition to this, they should not have given you a provisional offer if there was no position available so if this is a means of trying "to fob you off "I would want to know if I were you.
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    I originally applied for the position last year and my application was withdrawn due to a processing error stating I never turned up to interview, so aas a ways of apology they put me on reserve list. Over a year later and this happens. Its frustrating to say the least.
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    (Original post by Mirror.It)
    I originally applied for the position last year and my application was withdrawn due to a processing error stating I never turned up to interview, so aas a ways of apology they put me on reserve list. Over a year later and this happens. Its frustrating to say the least.
    That would make me even more want to contact my MP. Sounds very very strange. They are perfectly within their right to withdraw you if you fail Access NI/ DBS or another legal reason they can account for BUT they legally need to be able to account for it.
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    They got back to me, just another processing error. This is the most stressful application I have ever been through, haha.
    If I get the job, it will at least be worth it. lol
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    (Original post by Mirror.It)
    They got back to me, just another processing error. This is the most stressful application I have ever been through, haha.
    If I get the job, it will at least be worth it. lol
    glad they identified the error before it went too far. Hopefully your application gets processed in a timely manner now.....
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    Any movement anywhere?
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    (Original post by MurphysLaw2471)
    Any movement anywhere?
    I got an email with access NI pin today for Feb HO campaign. Got the DBS equivalent last Tuesday for the June HO campaign. Hopefully not too long until checks finish for me now for one of them!


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