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    I am a Labour Supporter but some issues ...

    Is Ed Balls making 'tiring' and 'predictable' attacks on the Conservatives ?

    Alistair Darling should replace Ed Balls to improve economic competence > but Ed Miliband still won't get rid of Ed Balls. Ed Miliband believes Ed Balls is doing a great job as shadow chancellor , the funny thing his he is not and always goes on about spending sprees lol .

    Btw is labours policy review delayed to January 2014 ??

    P.S. Mr Burnham was accused of ignoring and suppressing information linked to the appalling standards of care at the Mid-Staffordshire NHS Trust hospital ~ he needs moving somewhere in a reshuffle.
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    This party is not associated with the Labour party in real life.

    Also, join the greens!
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    (Original post by Cheese_Monster)
    Can we expect any forthcoming TSR Labour bills?
    After I've done my exams and reports over the next couple of weeks there'll be more bills and activity.
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    (Original post by Cheese_Monster)
    Can we expect any forthcoming TSR Labour bills?
    After exams yeah, I've got a few ideas originating from various sources including past Question Time debates
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    Good to hear, good luck to all with exams.
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    (Original post by Cheese_Monster)
    Good to hear, good luck to all with exams.
    Thanks, I'll be almost done with them this time next week.
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    Do the Labour Party have any policies they want to prioritise for legislation from their election manifesto?
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    What does Labour think to RL Labour's exploitation of the tax system in regards to their donation at the same time as they critisize Google for doing the same.
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    Does Labour believe that in its current form of a semi-dormant state, that it can coontinue to contribute and function within the House? Or do you believe you have been superseded by the Greens and Socialists on the left?
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    (Original post by Cheese_Monster)
    Does Labour believe that in its current form of a semi-dormant state, that it can coontinue to contribute and function within the House? Or do you believe you have been superseded by the Greens and Socialists on the left?
    Well, the Greens are basically a plaything for Thunder and Jazz to make the kinds of mistakes in his policy wonk that he can't get away with at work and the Socialists are essentially JPKC, so I think the question is a little unfair even if it is not without certain merits and hints at certain truths. It probably doesn't help that much of the Labour Party is either away or has been heavily involved in examinations over the past month or so. Either way, I think until the Socialists and Greens are in a position of not being one-man-bands, it's probably better to leave our woes to us, and think about how you might usefully contribute to making your respective party into a true party of multiples.
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    Well, the Greens are basically a plaything for Thunder and Jazz to make the kinds of mistakes in his policy wonk that he can't get away with at work and the Socialists are essentially JPKC, so I think the question is a little unfair even if it is not without certain merits and hints at certain truths. It probably doesn't help that much of the Labour Party is either away or has been heavily involved in examinations over the past month or so. Either way, I think until the Socialists and Greens are in a position of not being one-man-bands, it's probably better to leave our woes to us, and think about how you might usefully contribute to making your respective party into a true party of multiples.
    The fact that you misunderstand my role in and personal use for the Greens, this is basically the nature of the whole HoC.

    Also Labour has been in a state of decay and mediocrity for months, I don't understand why this is news.
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    Well, the Greens are basically a plaything for Thunder and Jazz to make the kinds of mistakes in his policy wonk that he can't get away with at work and the Socialists are essentially JPKC, so I think the question is a little unfair even if it is not without certain merits and hints at certain truths. It probably doesn't help that much of the Labour Party is either away or has been heavily involved in examinations over the past month or so. Either way, I think until the Socialists and Greens are in a position of not being one-man-bands, it's probably better to leave our woes to us, and think about how you might usefully contribute to making your respective party into a true party of multiples.
    What a load of nonsense. How would you have the faintest idea how active either subforum is? For what it's worth pretty much all MPs on both parties are active on a daily basis, every two days at worst, so how that translates to this just bein the T+J and JPKC show I have no idea.
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    (Original post by Thunder and Jazz)
    The fact that you misunderstand my role in and personal use for the Greens, this is basically the nature of the whole HoC.
    Oh for goodness sake. Do you, or CLS94 for that matter, really expect any of us to go "yeah, we know, we're ****"? Or do you expect some kind of fight against that accusation. If it's the former, then jesus you need to get a better understanding of loyalty.
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    Well, the Greens are basically a plaything for Thunder and Jazz to make the kinds of mistakes in his policy wonk that he can't get away with at work and the Socialists are essentially JPKC, so I think the question is a little unfair even if it is not without certain merits and hints at certain truths. It probably doesn't help that much of the Labour Party is either away or has been heavily involved in examinations over the past month or so. Either way, I think until the Socialists and Greens are in a position of not being one-man-bands, it's probably better to leave our woes to us, and think about how you might usefully contribute to making your respective party into a true party of multiples.
    Pretty warped view of the MHoC, you have no idea how active individual members of each party are within their respective subforums or the main opposition subforum. Neither are one-man bands. If you want to look at it that way, then the Labour Party has become a one man band of Xedi with Mechie and Rory occasionally appearing to concur when a rare Labour bill appears. I understand that exams influence activity, but members of the Green Party have been heavily inundated with exams but still continue to contribute every day.
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    To be honest, I think most parties are one man bands for most of their time. You just get lucky if you have a lot of men in your band, like we did in the Libers around 2011-2 time.
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    (Original post by jesusandtequila)
    To be honest, I think most parties are one man bands for most of their time. You just get lucky if you have a lot of men in your band, like we did in the Libers around 2011-2 time.
    I certainly feel like it at the moment
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    (Original post by Tactical Nuclear Penguin)
    I certainly feel like it at the moment
    Doesn't mean you can't have a great house, though (although, it seems most of the Bills are pretty small fish these days, I mean, we scrapped VAT and tried to scrap the NHS, compared to...a food labelling wheel). It just is normally the case that 5-10 people in the House do most of the debating and producing Bills. 7 parties makes that just one per party on average. Sometimes you get none, sometimes you get more. Just the way it goes really.

    This is why I think it's the job of party leaders to spread the MHoC around the forums, it's the way to drum up party membership and be successful as a party. Save the gimmicks and let party leaders do the best for their party.
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    (Original post by Tactical Nuclear Penguin)
    I certainly feel like it at the moment
    You should have been around during the last government, 8 different MP's produced bills and another 4 non-MP's produced bills or motions. Since then the weight of creation has moved towards me i think.
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    (Original post by Cheese_Monster)
    Pretty warped view of the MHoC, you have no idea how active individual members of each party are within their respective subforums or the main opposition subforum. Neither are one-man bands. If you want to look at it that way, then the Labour Party has become a one man band of Xedi with Mechie and Rory occasionally appearing to concur when a rare Labour bill appears. I understand that exams influence activity, but members of the Green Party have been heavily inundated with exams but still continue to contribute every day.
    Yes, and if you had come here with that accusation, I would have agreed with you entirely.

    I'm afraid that I find your original charge wanting for two reasons: the first is that it has zero effect on the internal rot and comes across as merely dancing around a fire in merriment, so I find it distasteful. The second is that it's counterproductive from the point of view of the Left. Labour is dormant, no-one is in a position to deny that, but to aggravate the few remaining active members who would naturally vote with 75% of your legislative programme is folly.

    Y'know, there was a time when I was just about the only active Labour member here and I produced several bills to ensure the semblance of activity from the party. In other words: I have been in this position before and don't need to be lectured by a newbie.

    Things may change, they may not; but until they do, I would have thought it in your interest to retain the support of the few Labour people who are active.
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    Yes, and if you had come here with that accusation, I would have agreed with you entirely.

    I'm afraid that I find your original charge wanting for two reasons: the first is that it has zero effect on the internal rot and comes across as merely dancing around a fire in merriment, so I find it distasteful. The second is that it's counterproductive from the point of view of the Left. Labour is dormant, no-one is in a position to deny that, but to aggravate the few remaining active members who would naturally vote with 75% of your legislative programme is folly.
    This isn't a character assassination, it is genuine concern for your party. You seem to want to duck your head into the sand, I see a party that has a large MP grouping that is faltering and as my previous posts in the Labour party question thread have indicated, I'm more interested in seeing your party produce more legislation, which would be beneficial to the left and health of the House as a whole. And to assume that my concern for your party would result in you voting against the Green Party is petty and superficial. I will not agree with your party just to retain your support, i'll stick to my principles.

    Y'know, there was a time when I was just about the only active Labour member here and I produced several bills to ensure the semblance of activity from the party. In other words: I have been in this position before and don't need to be lectured by a newbie.
    Good for you. I'm not lecturing you, if you check my original post it was a question. Also that's incredibly patronising to use the word 'newbie' in a condescending way as if my opinion has no weight at all.

    Things may change, they may not; but until they do, I would have thought it in your interest to retain the support of the few Labour people who are active.
    Well for your sakes and the House's, I hope they do.
 
 
 
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