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    (Original post by FabioCannavaro)
    You're turning into Angel Phys bruh
    he is basically my favourite ever FF poster, so...
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    (Original post by FabioCannavaro)
    You're turning into Angel Phys bruh
    Lol, haters gonna hate lol.
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    Well the result was a disappointment. I thought we played good enough to deserve the win.

    Lallana was great but Sterling was poor imo. The fullbacks generally did okay but you could see how much Everton were targetting Moreno.

    Henderson really showing how he important he is for us. Frankly I think he's more important that Gerrard in our midfield now. Not only has he added forward movement, you can also see more through balls/creative passes and a few decent shots too.

    Rodgers needs to work out how he's going to deal with teams having a player sit on Gerrard. Whether he is dropped sometimes or played in a different position or with someone else playing deeper so he's not so exposed. He generally had a good game though.

    I'm torn about Balotelli. He doesn't have that acceleration (though he's fast enough once he gets going) and his first touch isn't as good as it should be. However he's brilliant at holding the ball up and he gets in the right positions to score (you can see him being clinical when on form). Bit wasteful yesterday but he's working hard for the team which is good.

    I can't believe how deep we were in the last 5-10 mins. Jagielka shouldn't have been allowed to be so free 20-30 yards from goal.

    Basel on Wednesday which is a huge game. If we win that game, I think we'll progress from our group in 2nd place. If we lose though, going to be very tough to not finish 3rd. I'd take a draw currently.
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    (Original post by Zerforax)
    Henderson really showing how he important he is for us. Frankly I think he's more important that Gerrard in our midfield now. Not only has he added forward movement, you can also see more through balls/creative passes and a few decent shots too.

    Rodgers needs to work out how he's going to deal with teams having a player sit on Gerrard. Whether he is dropped sometimes or played in a different position or with someone else playing deeper so he's not so exposed. He generally had a good game though.
    He did have a good game yesterday, but it was a derby - I'd expect nothing less. It's the games like West Ham away or minnows at home which he struggles in because players man-mark him out of the game, giving him no room to be creative. If I was Rodgers I'd have a long, hard think about Gerrard.

    He'll obviously be a starter for the next twelve months or so - but I'd rather we signed a world class holding midfielder this summer rather than Can and played Henderson alongside them, with Sterling, Gerrard and Coutinho in front. I don't think Rodgers can justify Gerrard's selection in that role when Lallana performs like yesterday, though.

    I see Gerrard as always having the ability to step up in big games, though. Similar to Lampard this season for City. Lampard's timing of arriving into the penalty box is absolutely second to none. He got a key goal against Chelsea and then three more since. I think Gerrard can be utilised in the same way. We can draw upon his experience in games against the likes of the top four and Everton and big European nights, but it will inevitably reach the stage where he doesn't need to be playing against Sunderland at home and Stoke away.
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    (Original post by Mackay)
    He did have a good game yesterday, but it was a derby - I'd expect nothing less. It's the games like West Ham away or minnows at home which he struggles in because players man-mark him out of the game, giving him no room to be creative. If I was Rodgers I'd have a long, hard think about Gerrard.

    He'll obviously be a starter for the next twelve months or so - but I'd rather we signed a world class holding midfielder this summer rather than Can and played Henderson alongside them, with Sterling, Gerrard and Coutinho in front. I don't think Rodgers can justify Gerrard's selection in that role when Lallana performs like yesterday, though.

    I see Gerrard as always having the ability to step up in big games, though. Similar to Lampard this season for City. Lampard's timing of arriving into the penalty box is absolutely second to none. He got a key goal against Chelsea and then three more since. I think Gerrard can be utilised in the same way. We can draw upon his experience in games against the likes of the top four and Everton and big European nights, but it will inevitably reach the stage where he doesn't need to be playing against Sunderland at home and Stoke away.
    You'd think in those games we'd have more of the possession and therefore Gerrard should be more effective? I think Rodgers needs to go back to being a little bit more unpredictable.

    Gerrard can't play further up anymore - it's either deep or not at all imo.
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    The only saving grace is that our rivals (for 3rd/4th) are doing equally bad.

    Arsenal - 10
    Man Utd - 8
    Spurs - 8
    Liverpool - 7
    Everton - 6

    West Brom (H), QPR (A), Hull (H) and Newcastle (A) - we need to pick up some decent points over these next 4 games to make sure we make up some ground.
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    (Original post by Zerforax)
    West Brom (H), QPR (A), Hull (H) and Newcastle (A) - we need to pick up some decent points over these next 4 games to make sure we make up some ground.
    12 points on paper. In reality we'll end up getting about five.
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    (Original post by Zerforax)
    The only saving grace is that our rivals (for 3rd/4th) are doing equally bad.

    Arsenal - 10
    Man Utd - 8
    Spurs - 8
    Liverpool - 7
    Everton - 6

    West Brom (H), QPR (A), Hull (H) and Newcastle (A) - we need to pick up some decent points over these next 4 games to make sure we make up some ground.
    we've been lucky - on another year we would already be 6+ points down.
    never seen a worse start from us in terms of performances, so it's pretty hilarious how we're still in contention with everybody except chelsea who are 9 points ahead of us after 6 games (lol).

    can't see arsenal getting anything from chelsea, not at the bridge.
    city will have no problems especially since villa's home form is generally poor.
    united's first test against a top 6 team - i think they'll win but that means everton would drop points which is a plus.
    soton will give spurs a good go too, even if it's at WHL.

    every rival team except for city is playing a game where it wouldn't be a shock for them to drop points.
    we're playing west brom at anfield, if we can't get a win from that then we may as well just give up...

    feeling positive about the weekend though; likely to have sturridge back and it's a relatively nice game too.
    i don't think we'll be more than a point adrift of united/arsenal by the end of the gameweek which would be a nice boost for morale.
    we just need a win to finally get things going.
    comfortable 3 goal margin with balotelli getting off the mark would be excellent.
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    (Original post by Mackay)
    12 points on paper. In reality we'll end up getting about five.
    i get more frustrated when we lose to a "meh" team than when we lose to a rival.
    is that weird?
    even though in terms of points a rival loss is terrible, i just can't stand us being turned over by a team that we're clearly higher quality than.

    if by some miracle we get 12/12, that puts us on 19 pts from 10 games.
    hilariously our start was so poor that even if we win 4 in a row from now, we'd still be below our 2 ppg average target...
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    Still 19 points after 10 games is fine considering you are a second half of the season team.
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    Just have a funny feeling you lot will slip up against West Brom and Hull.

    Seriously if you lot fail to beat West Brom next week, it's very worrying. Liverpool always roll Everton over at Anfield but it didnt happen. Its far to early to say it, but this might mirror the 09/10 season. Liverpool finish runners up the previous season and then **** up the next.
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    (Original post by jam278)
    Still 19 points after 10 games is fine considering you are a second half of the season team.
    it's not too bad if you look at the circumstances - most other rivals doing badly, generally decent form towards the second half of the season.
    but looking at it isolated, 2 wins 1 draw and 3 losses from our opening set of games is borderline ridiculous for a club like us whether we're a "second half of the season team" or not.

    (Original post by WeOnlyLiveOnce)
    Just have a funny feeling you lot will slip up against West Brom and Hull.

    Seriously if you lot fail to beat West Brom next week, it's very worrying. Liverpool always roll Everton over at Anfield but it didnt happen. Its far to early to say it, but this might mirror the 09/10 season. Liverpool finish runners up the previous season and then **** up the next.
    please don't.:dry:
    hang on to a 2-1 home win against west ham after parking the bus and suddenly you're more concerned with our team than your own?

    no excuse if we don't beat west brom, but we were simply unlucky on saturday.
    we rolled them over in-game but we didn't get the points.
    took balotelli forgetting how to do his job and a miracle goal to take it way from us.
    i ain't bitter at all....:rolleyes:

    meh, things change.
    arsenal won't get top 4 for ever for instance.
    we'll break our runners up then fail cycle sat some point; hopefully this is the year.
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    (Original post by Lúcio)
    hopefully this is the year.
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    (Original post by jam278)
    :sogood:
    that looks bad taken out of context - i meant another top 4 finish, not the title.
    we ain't getting close this season; the little horse has grown up.
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    (Original post by Lúcio)
    it's not too bad if you look at the circumstances - most other rivals doing badly, generally decent form towards the second half of the season.
    but looking at it isolated, 2 wins 1 draw and 3 losses from our opening set of games is borderline ridiculous for a club like us whether we're a "second half of the season team" or not.



    please don't.:dry:
    hang on to a 2-1 home win against west ham after parking the bus and suddenly you're more concerned with our team than your own?

    no excuse if we don't beat west brom, but we were simply unlucky on saturday.
    we rolled them over in-game but we didn't get the points.
    took balotelli forgetting how to do his job and a miracle goal to take it way from us.
    i ain't bitter at all....:rolleyes:

    meh, things change.
    arsenal won't get top 4 for ever for instance.
    we'll break our runners up then fail cycle sat some point; hopefully this is the year.
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    Beat me to it :lol:

    It wouldnt be surprising if you dropped points but then again it wouldnt be surprising if you got 12/12. Liverpool have been so inconsistent as have everyone else bar ofcourse Chelsea. Btw that West Ham team thumped your side and restricted you lot to no shot on target (iirc?) we beat them so yeah I'd be concerned about Liverpool . On a more serious note, tbh dont care what any of the other sides do so long as United win.

    You have to admit, that Jagielka goal was a beauty. He isnt going to score a better goal than that. Amazing how both captains scored :lol:.

    2 remaining spots in the top 4 is a battle between Arsenal, United and Liverpool.
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    Spurs just got a draw to Arsenal at the emirates, don't underestimate them yet, although they were pretty atrocious for most of that game but if they're getting results the same way Arsenal are it's a bit unfair to count them out.
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    (Original post by WeOnlyLiveOnce)
    that West Ham team thumped your side and restricted you lot to no shot on target (iirc?) we beat them so yeah I'd be concerned about Liverpool

    You have to admit, that Jagielka goal was a beauty. He isnt going to score a better goal than that. Amazing how both captains scored :lol:.

    2 remaining spots in the top 4 is a battle between Arsenal, United and Liverpool.
    We lost 3-1 with 0 shots on target...
    Seems legit.

    By that logic, does that make Leicester better than Real Madrid?

    It was an unbelievable goal.
    Hard to fully appreciate when it robs your team though.

    I think arsenal are getting 3rd.
    United and Liverpool are too up and down; whichever finds some consistency will get the coveted 4th place.
    Still early though.
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    (Original post by Lúcio)
    We lost 3-1 with 0 shots on target...
    Seems legit.

    By that logic, does that make Leicester better than Real Madrid?

    It was an unbelievable goal.
    Hard to fully appreciate when it robs your team though.

    I think arsenal are getting 3rd.
    United and Liverpool are too up and down; whichever finds some consistency will get the coveted 4th place.
    Still early though.
    LOL oh **** i forgot Sterling scored . I somehow thought West Ham won 3-0 :lol:

    Surely your logic is failing you since it was deemed as a joke no? How on Earth does that even make sense anyway. We beat RM in a friendly and Leicester beat us in a competitive game .

    Dont think Arsenal are bang on for 3rd just yet. I think after Christmas we'll see how the table is lining up. Some shocking results already after 6 games played. I ****ing love the PL.
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    (Original post by WeOnlyLiveOnce)
    LOL oh **** i forgot Sterling scored . I somehow thought West Ham won 3-0 :lol:

    Surely your logic is failing you since it was deemed as a joke no? How on Earth does that even make sense anyway. We beat RM in a friendly and Leicester beat us in a competitive game .

    Dont think Arsenal are bang on for 3rd just yet. I think after Christmas we'll see how the table is lining up. Some shocking results already after 6 games played. I ****ing love the PL.
    We aren't THAT bad.
    We still have SOME decent players

    I was making a joke out of your joke, gutted :/

    Yeah, way too early just now.
    La liga may have the best players in the world but the premier league is the place to be for general entertainment.
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    (Original post by Lúcio)
    We aren't THAT bad.
    We still have SOME decent players

    I was making a joke out of your joke, gutted :/

    Yeah, way too early just now.
    La liga may have the best players in the world but the premier league is the place to be for general entertainment.
    You lot will be fine when Sturridge returns tbh. Balotelli, like Falcao need that first goal to get going in the PL even though Balo did score in the CL. He's getting into the right positions but he just cant seem to score atm for you lot.

    You cant do that

    Laliga is really top heavy though. I'd like to see the TV revenue being split equally throughout their league rather than Barca and RM hogging most of the money. Laliga and Bundesliga is a good watch for an occassional football match between thier mid table clubs. I enjoy the football at times and ofcourse the main clashes like Bayern-Dortmund and Dortmund-Schalke and in Laliga the Madrid derby, El Classico and i enjoy the Basque derby. Nothing beats our league when it comes to entertainment though as you pointed out.
 
 
 
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