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    (Original post by Mechie)
    Do you want to help Labour activity?
    I want to help House wide activity. So, in that sense, yes. It would be nice to see Labour representing their vote share.
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    As long as the idea's not something batty like removing RL names i don't care although if your leaderships are so content to be in other parties then i suggest you simply merge.

    Note that i've nothing against dual membership for members or MP's but if i as a party leader felt the need to be a dual member with Ukip myself i'd have to wonder why the two parties were separate.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    As long as the idea's not something batty like removing RL names i don't care although if your leaderships are so content to be in other parties then i suggest you simply merge.

    Note that i've nothing against dual membership for members or MP's but if i as a party leader felt the need to be a dual member with Ukip myself i'd have to wonder why the two parties were separate.
    CLS94 and TopHat are DL (slash C2s) in their main parties, none of the left-wing party leaders hold dual membership and when CLS94 was Green leader he left the socialists. DLs aren't really party leaders in any major sense, their main roles as back-up leader.
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    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    CLS94 and TopHat are DL (slash C2s) in their main parties, none of the left-wing party leaders hold dual membership and when CLS94 was Green leader he left the socialists. DLs aren't really party leaders in any major sense, their main roles as back-up leader.
    I thought Mechie was part of the Socialists.
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    (Original post by MacDaddi)
    Oh, so you want an active House, but an exclusively left wing active House? That would make for some really interesting debate...
    Actually I'd prefer it if all parties had hundreds of members and legislation booming out on a daily basis. It's not about having an exclusively left wing active house, it's about people who share the vague sentiments of Labour probably being in a better position to boost their activity than say they would to boost UKIPs strategy.

    Ideally we need a site wide push for the house, but short of calling an early election we're probably not going to get very far in convincing the admins to do that.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    I thought Mechie was part of the Socialists.
    He joined them for a bit last term, but isn't now.
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    I don't think that it's just an internal Labour party issue that we should deal with on our own. As many here have rightly said, low activity levels in any party are to the detriment of the entire House, and so we have an interest in boosting activity levels in all parties where we can. I haven't been able to see other party sub-forums for about a year now, but in the two years I was able to read through them, one thing which was generally lacking across all parties was the ability of leaders to motivate their existing members to contribute. If this has changed and party leaders are more successful at getting their members to participate, their strategies to increase participation could be shared for the benefit of the whole House. If it's still as I remember, brainstorms could be held and ideas could be suggested for new things leaders could try in their sub-forums.

    Activity problems in parties shouldn't just be seen as an issue for that party itself to deal with as through sharing ideas and experiences between parties, everyone benefits.
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    I thoroughly disagree with dual membership so I won't be joining your party, I just hope that a party wide revival will be on the cards eventually.
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    (Original post by Cheese_Monster)
    I thoroughly disagree with dual membership so I won't be joining your party, I just hope that a party wide revival will be on the cards eventually.
    You could leave the Greens to join us
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    Okay guys. I usually can't be bothered with the Q&A thread, but I've decided to start paying attention to it.


    (Original post by Cheese_Monster)
    Does Labour believe that in its current form of a semi-dormant state, that it can coontinue to contribute and function within the House? Or do you believe you have been superseded by the Greens and Socialists on the left?
    Explain how we're semi-dormant please? I can cite multiple submissions recently.

    (Original post by Thunder and Jazz)
    The fact that you misunderstand my role in and personal use for the Greens, this is basically the nature of the whole HoC.

    Also Labour has been in a state of decay and mediocrity for months, I don't understand why this is news.
    Decay eh? I think we're the most active we've been in quite a while; care to prove otherwise?


    (Original post by Cheese_Monster)
    Pretty warped view of the MHoC, you have no idea how active individual members of each party are within their respective subforums or the main opposition subforum. Neither are one-man bands. If you want to look at it that way, then the Labour Party has become a one man band of Xedi with Mechie and Rory occasionally appearing to concur when a rare Labour bill appears. I understand that exams influence activity, but members of the Green Party have been heavily inundated with exams but still continue to contribute every day.
    Hmm.

    I would say, that in terms of putting forward submissions, I do concur that I'm the most active Labour Party member. However, all of the leadership (with the exception of TopHat), and some other MPs, are active as well and do make contributions. We're not as stagnant as you make out.
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    (Original post by Cheese_Monster)
    This isn't a character assassination, it is genuine concern for your party. You seem to want to duck your head into the sand, I see a party that has a large MP grouping that is faltering and as my previous posts in the Labour party question thread have indicated, I'm more interested in seeing your party produce more legislation, which would be beneficial to the left and health of the House as a whole. And to assume that my concern for your party would result in you voting against the Green Party is petty and superficial. I will not agree with your party just to retain your support, i'll stick to my principles.



    Good for you. I'm not lecturing you, if you check my original post it was a question. Also that's incredibly patronising to use the word 'newbie' in a condescending way as if my opinion has no weight at all.



    Well for your sakes and the House's, I hope they do.
    If you're genuinely that concerned; I'm sure you'd be welcome to join, you'd probably get a seat as well.


    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    To be honest with you if it's a choice between a corpse-like Labour Party producing very little legislation and debate in the house with a handful of active members and the inability to fill all their seats at the beginning of the term or an election without the Labour party where the Greens and Socialists may attract your votes towards our parties and thus your seats back to active members the latter would be better for us, and arguably the house.
    That's not going to happen. The Labour Party is here to stay and is currently producing a fair amount of submissions.


    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    Only 8 of your MPs producing bill's or motions in an entire government over the course of a term is still pretty dire.
    That's actually not bad, I'm talking from experience of many terms.
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    (Original post by StatusRed)
    If you're genuinely that concerned; I'm sure you'd be welcome to join, you'd probably get a seat as well.
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    I am currently standing to be the new Deputy Leader of the Green Party, its a bit of a conflict of interests (though wanting your activity to bolster is not.) We're currently discussing proposals to aid your party and once we have come to a party consensus we will provide your party with them.
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    (Original post by StatusRed)
    That's not going to happen. The Labour Party is here to stay and is currently producing a fair amount of submissions.
    Since May 1st how many of Labour's submissions have been written by you?
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    (Original post by MacDaddi)
    Oh, so you want an active House, but an exclusively left wing active House? That would make for some really interesting debate...
    Made me laugh.

    (Original post by Rakas21)
    As long as the idea's not something batty like removing RL names i don't care although if your leaderships are so content to be in other parties then i suggest you simply merge.

    Note that i've nothing against dual membership for members or MP's but if i as a party leader felt the need to be a dual member with Ukip myself i'd have to wonder why the two parties were separate.
    That's something I've always been against; dual party membership for people in MP positions.


    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    CLS94 and TopHat are DL (slash C2s) in their main parties, none of the left-wing party leaders hold dual membership and when CLS94 was Green leader he left the socialists. DLs aren't really party leaders in any major sense, their main roles as back-up leader.
    I am strongly opposed to any MP of a party being a member of another party it shows split interests and lack of commitment / dedication in my opinion. I've been vocal in expressing, on our sub forum, that I'm not happy about TopHat being in the Green Party and holding Deputy Leader of Labour.
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    (Original post by Cheese_Monster)
    I am currently standing to be the new Deputy Leader of the Green Party, its a bit of a conflict of interests (though wanting your activity to bolster is not.) We're currently discussing proposals to aid your party and once we have come to a party consensus we will provide your party with them.
    It's not too late to leave the Greens.

    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    Since May 1st how many of Labour's submissions have been written by you?
    All of them but one I do believe (anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). It's worth noting that I was in Canada and Alaska from the 6th of May until the 26th also. What's your point exactly?

    On another note, please do speak like a Briton rather than a yank and use the correct date format.
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    (Original post by StatusRed)
    I am strongly opposed to any MP of a party being a member of another party it shows split interests and lack of commitment / dedication in my opinion. I've been vocal in expressing, on our sub forum, that I'm not happy about TopHat being in the Green Party and holding Deputy Leader of Labour.
    In an ideal world I'd want dual membership gone but I personally think it could be exploited for the benefit of your party - but you'll hear more about that when we've agreed internally whether we agree with that. I don't think it shows a lack of commitment, it's something that can be useful for members who don't really fit in a single party comfortably, but still want to participate in the house. As for TopHat being a member of the Greens if it's that large a concern I'm sure there is internal avenues in Labour you can explore, or house-wide avenues if you feel so inclined.
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    (Original post by StatusRed)
    All of them but one I do believe (anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). It's worth noting that I was in Canada and Alaska from the 6th of May until the 26th also. What's your point exactly?
    I think you've just rested my point, the Labour party is almost exclusively producing your individual output and may as well be renamed the Xedix band of merry men.

    On another note, please do speak like a Briton rather than a yank and use the correct date format.
    I'll speak how I want, I don't need people to tell me how to talk.
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    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    I think you've just rested my point, the Labour party is almost exclusively producing your individual output and may as well be renamed the Xedix band of merry men.



    I'll speak how I want, I don't need people to tell me how to talk.
    I command you to join Labour again.
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    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    I think you've just rested my point, the Labour party is almost exclusively producing your individual output and may as well be renamed the Xedix band of merry men.



    I'll speak how I want, I don't need people to tell me how to talk.
    Excellent way of increasing activity :laugh:

    (Original post by Mechie)
    I command you to join Labour again.
    Why don't you join the Greens instead?
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    (Original post by Mechie)
    I command you to join Labour again.
    If your that ****ing desperate you'd actually accept a member who'd party on your grave and hates a large proportion of what you represent I'll join as a dual member.
 
 
 
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