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Jeremy Clarkson: strikers should be 'shot' - what a disgusting ******* watch

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    (Original post by ThePropheticNomad)
    sos. off to drink some cow pee
    oh common misconception but i see what you did there, i guess if you are retarded enough to believe that then you might actually be going off to drink some cow pee.
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    (Original post by Rant)
    A few people awkwardly laughing, more like. I find it funny that so many people have supported him over the years... you think he'd piss on you if you were on fire?


    You can't say between 2 and 5 seconds into the clip they are "awkwardly laughing" bud, it obviously isn't haha.

    And that's a bit far tbh, he isn't inhuman lol.
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    (Original post by Elipsis)
    It doesn't really cause many problems in America, where it is enshrined in law. Obviously you can't run around saying the N word willy nilly, but that's mostly because you'll end up getting shot before long. The question you've really got to ask about not having freedom of speech is where does it end? And how would you feel if those in power told you that you couldn't say something you wanted to? People have been silenced by the authorities in various parts of the world for advocating Christianity, Socialism, Capitalism, Racism, Non-Racism etc. No one should have the right to tell someone else what they can or can't say, just the right to remove their company from that person.
    I see what you mean. But with things as vague as Freedom Of Speech, its nigh on impossible to draw a line without contradicting yourself. Even though the miniority exercise this right in a foul and abusive manner (like the woman on the tram), I agree that no-one should have the right to tell someone what they can and can't say.
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    (Original post by TShadow383)
    Which would explain why they got 2 million more votes than Labour at the last election and polls indicate that those backing the strikes are in the minority eh?


    Nope, I just watch the news, read yougov polls, and deal with hate-filled lefties on quite a regular basis. Chip on shoulder much?


    Nope, parents were both Labour activists when I was little, mum's still a party member, lived in a one-bedroom flat when I was little.
    My dad quit his job and started a business. He left the labour party due to their increases to the crushing burden of regulation on British businesses. Family business now does pretty well, they've just rented out a proper office so we have room to expand.
    Started my own company in high school, worked incredibly hard at it - sold it to pay my way comfortably through uni.
    I have worked for everything in my life. I can't appreciate the left's ideology because it essentially assumes that people are helpless to change their lot in life. That idea strikes me as very damaging.

    And also the HATRED. You seem do have an intense dislike of anyone who's not a socialist regardless of anything else they might do. You don't see people on the right behaving in that way, it's a more laid-back political ideology I think, I like that.


    Okay, almost all the socialist parties in europe are now no longer in power (look at the decisive win for Spain's conservatives recently).
    How do you conclude that we don't have democracy? The party with the most votes is in power. We could see policies that were more representative if Labour would engage in the political process rather than just constantly trying to shout down the government on every issue.
    Oh no, you're one of those self-made Tories? They're far, far worse than the born-into it type. Sorry, but you're pretty much beyond hope.

    Who's in power and not in power doesn't matter at all. The entire system is run by the bourgeois. It's also entirely unsustainable and is reaching breaking point. Make the most of your days of plenty, for they are certainly numbered.
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    (Original post by Maccees)


    You can't say between 2 and 5 seconds into the clip they are "awkwardly laughing" bud, it obviously isn't haha.

    And that's a bit far tbh, he isn't inhuman lol.
    You're just reading it that way because you're a fanboy. I guarantee the guy couldn't care less about any of his fans.
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    (Original post by A Mysterious Lord)
    Right, I tweeted this earlier:

    "We live in a free country, Jeremy Clarkson can say what the hell he wants - if you don't like it, don't listen, stop complaining #OneShow"

    We know from Top Gear and other programmes his views can be controversial, although he could have been a bit more tactful when referring to suicides of all things.

    In three words - haters gonna hate.
    haters gonna hate you for being a ****...

    I agree with you that Jeremy Clarkson can say what he wants. We are all entitled to say what we like in our personal lives. However, whilst working for the BBC, he represents them, and it is unacceptable to have a figure like him touting radical positions whilst on camera for the BBC.

    He can say whatever stupid stuff he wants about cars, I don't mind. But when he starts talking about current affairs on the BBC, he should be bound to remain impartial as all their journalists are.
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    (Original post by Rant)
    No, there isn't. Most people voted for the Tories based on either being tired of New Labour, or through the usual right wing media campaign to brainwash the working classes (e.g The Sun).

    There's more working class people than any other social class. Tories have never been, and will never be working in the interests of the majority. People have seen revolutions all over the world, they're seeing the financial pillars of capitalism crumble, and they're starting to wake up.

    Clarkson's views couldn't be any more outdated.
    Clarkson's general views on society are echoed by many, I suspect. Take a look at this, for example: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/fe...port-far-right. I believe there are quite a few issues (crucially immigration, the EU, and crime and justice) on which working-class Labour voters, Tories, and Jeremy Clarkson would happily agree.

    The left can brainwash just as effectively as the right, and has done for the last few elections via the Sun and its ilk.

    They're "starting to wake up"? No, that's melodramatic bull. It has always been easier to attack the status quo and advocate a utopian, supposedly problem-free alternative than to do the reverse - even more so at a time of turmoil.
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    (Original post by bj_945)
    haters gonna hate you for being a ****...

    I agree with you that Jeremy Clarkson can say what he wants. We are all entitled to say what we like in our personal lives. However, whilst working for the BBC, he represents them, and it is unacceptable to have a figure like him touting radical positions whilst on camera for the BBC.

    He can say whatever stupid stuff he wants about cars, I don't mind. But when he starts talking about current affairs on the BBC, he should be bound to remain impartial as all their journalists are.
    He's a guest on a chat show. He was invited on in the capacity of an independent personality entitled to his own views on anything he or the hosts choose to discuss. If he were the interviewer, you'd be right, but he isn't, he's the interviewee.
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    (Original post by Rant)
    Oh no, you're one of those self-made Tories? They're far, far worse than the born-into it type. Sorry, but you're pretty much beyond hope.
    See what I mean about the hatred now?
    It's the people who put in the effort to go out and be successful who are the driving force bringing prosperity into the country.

    (Original post by Rant)
    Who's in power and not in power doesn't matter at all. The entire system is run by the bourgeois. It's also entirely unsustainable and is reaching breaking point. Make the most of your days of plenty, for they are certainly numbered.
    Sorry, but communists have been saying this for at least two centuries in this country, probably an awful lot more than that. And it's less true now than ever.
    That said, I do think we need an overhaul of the democratic system in this country, I think AV would have been a good first step.
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    (Original post by michael321)
    The left can brainwash just as effectively as the right, and has done for the last few elections via the Sun and its ilk.
    I'm sorry, are you saying the Sun is left wing?
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    (Original post by A Mysterious Lord)
    Right, I tweeted this earlier:

    "We live in a free country, Jeremy Clarkson can say what the hell he wants - if you don't like it, don't listen, stop complaining #OneShow"
    So why does the same not apply to Abu Hamza?
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    (Original post by bj_945)
    I'm sorry, are you saying the Sun is left wing?
    It supported Labour through three of the last four elections. Traditionally its allegiance has switched between the major parties.
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    Nomad, what's the score? Nomad, Nomad, what's the score?!

    Oh, it's (Y)49 and (N)142!
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    (Original post by michael321)
    He's a guest on a chat show. He was invited on in the capacity of an independent personality entitled to his own views on anything he or the hosts choose to discuss. If he were the interviewer, you'd be right, but he isn't, he's the interviewee.
    To be honest, it makes no difference. Whilst you are on BBC payroll, you simply cannot say things like this publicly. Someone I know well is a BBC radio journalist. He cannot go to talks and claim NATO intervention in Syria would be right (or not) for instance. He could not make his views on the Israel/Palestine debate publicly known at a talk. It could cost him his job.

    When you are BBC, you are publicly impartial.

    Also, your argument is irrelevant because Clarkson continuously makes comments like this when he is working as a presenter.
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    Did anyone else see that idiot on Channel 4 (Labour MP, I didn't catch his name) who was going on about the 'glamorisation of murder' and its influence on children? :facepalm2: Absolutely ludicrous.
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    (Original post by bj_945)
    To be honest, it makes no difference. Whilst you are on BBC payroll, you simply cannot say things like this publicly. Someone I know well is a BBC radio journalist. He cannot go to talks and claim NATO intervention in Syria would be right (or not) for instance. He could not make his beliefs on the Israel/Palestine debate publicly known at a talk. It could cost him his job.

    When you are BBC, you are publicly impartial.

    Also, your argument is irrelevant because Clarkson continuously makes comments like this when he is working as a presenter.
    BBC news staff and reporters should have a duty to remain impartial, but expecting all BBC employees to be politically neutral is laughable. Clarkson is entertaining and people can take or leave his political views when they watch Top Gear. It's not like he's subtly presenting news from a slanted perspective.

    But this is even less objectionable than biased comments on Top Gear because he is on the chat show in his capacity as a TV personality. I don't care if he's on the BBC payroll, he's entitled to his opinions. Perhaps this would be an issue if it were a newsreader or a BBC higher-up, but it shouldn't matter if it's a motoring program presenter.
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    (Original post by TShadow383)
    See what I mean about the hatred now?
    It's the people who put in the effort to go out and be successful who are the driving force bringing prosperity into the country.


    Sorry, but communists have been saying this for at least two centuries in this country, probably an awful lot more than that. And it's less true now than ever.
    That said, I do think we need an overhaul of the democratic system in this country, I think AV would have been a good first step.
    Leftists hate anything to do with success, because they are powerless and weak. They hate America, white people, and men. This all stems from a deep seated inferiority complex, which also goes a long way in explaining why they advocate socialism in the first place - it is the only way they can conceive of having more than they currently do. They will come up with all sorts of ridiculous reasons why they hate the Western world, whilst simultaneously making excuses as to why those same things happen under systems they are advocating like those in place in North Korea. At the end of the day they hate competition, because deep down inside they feel like losers. They are also over socialised to a ridiculous extent.
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    (Original post by dzeh)
    The public pensions are obscene, and they should be cut even more than proposed
    so come on then - lets hear what you know about it? I'm looking forward to being educated (should I hold my breath?) :couchpotato:
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    Anyone who complains is an idiot, everyone has a different opinion on things, if you don't like it don't watch or listen there are plenty of other channels available to watch, everyone knows what jeremy is like so if you don't like him don't watch programs with him in. Bet the majority of complaints came after the airing of the show which if that is the case there complaints should just be ignored
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    (Original post by Rant)
    You're just reading it that way because you're a fanboy. I guarantee the guy couldn't care less about any of his fans.
    Not a fan boy, just stating the obvious. But you're either a troll, or just jumping on the band-wagon. Ah well.
 
 
 
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