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    (Original post by Hellcat12)
    "Corrupt Desert wastelands", "propped up on oil money". Do I need to point out more than this?
    Perhaps not you, who cares anyways.




    No offence but you missed the sarcasm and thank you very much. No, you are wrong, I am an Arab and even in Dubai, Arabic is stressed upon. The medium of cultural interaction is English, being an international language, it has to be adopted since the tourists and labour force employed here is mostly from overseas.

    Ok, what else, other than oil, do you suggest is the reason that anybody even remotely cares about any of the arab countries? Do you think that it is the general diverse and tolerant culture that so clearly pervades the area? A quote from Syriana springs to mind.
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    (Original post by the bear)
    :confused::confused:
    The first one translates as: This is not the usual road, we have more from New York.

    This is a beautiful view:
    Ya-la mun munzar Jamil

    Second one as: Trolley service on this flight is terrible.

    what a nice young man:
    Ma Rajl Al-Taif Al-Shabab.



    (don't have Arabic typer on cell so posting it as transliteration, the way I am interpreting it. )
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    (Original post by Hellcat12)
    The first one translates as: This is not the usual road, we have more from New York.

    This is a beautiful view:
    Ya-la mun munzar Jamil

    Second one as: Trolley service on this flight is terrible.

    what a nice young man:
    Ma Rajl Al-Taif Al-Shabab.



    (don't have Arabic typer on cell so posting it as transliteration, the way I am interpreting it. )
    thanks Hellcat... i have found another:

    لا يبدو الطيار في هذه الرحلة من ذوي الخبرة جدا

    it is exciting to fly by plane
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    (Original post by Ggmu!)
    I did miss the sarcasm, because it's an odd situation to be sarcastic in.

    What exactly did I say that was wrong? That you aren't blessed? Or English is the most important language in the world?

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    For you, Maybe. :dontknow:

    I never said that .
    English is the most common medium of communication between different nationalities other than sign language.
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    (Original post by Hellcat12)
    For you, Maybe. :dontknow:

    I never said that .
    English is the most common medium of communication between different nationalities other than sign language.
    Well you did say the words 'no you are wrong' so clearly something I said must've been wrong according to you...

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    (Original post by Dnator)
    Ok, what else, other than oil, do you suggest is the reason that anybody even remotely cares about any of the arab countries? Do you think that it is the general diverse and tolerant culture that so clearly pervades the area? A quote from Syriana springs to mind.
    Really? You need to brush up your knowledge on Arab economy and politics if you want to know what interest the world has in the Arab countries. I am being urged to write another speech here.:sigh:
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    (Original post by the bear)
    thanks Hellcat... i have found another:

    لا يبدو الطيار في هذه الرحلة من ذوي الخبرة جدا

    it is exciting to fly by plane

    This also has an error:
    The pilot on this plane is not experienced.

    It is exciting to fly by plane:
    W-mun Al-Masir aan Yatayr Balatayaria.

    I don't have google translator at the moment, if you have it, you can maybe check it out.

    Where are you getting these from?
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    (Original post by the bear)
    i have picked up a few rudimentary useful phrases...

    هذا ليس الطريق المعتاد لدينا أكثر من نيويورك

    "what a beautiful view"

    خدمة عربة على هذه الرحلة أمر فظيع

    "what a nice young man"
    Lool Sorry to say my friend whoever is giving you these phrases or translating them for you is a bit clueless

    هذا ليس الطريق المعتاد لدينا أكثر من نيويورك means:
    This is not the usual route, we have more from New York

    خدمة عربة على هذه الرحلة أمر فظيع means
    the refreshment cart or food cart on this journey is horrible

    ما اجمل هذا المنظر / ما اروع هذا المنظر/ منظر خلاب
    "what a beautiful view"

    ما الطف هذا الشاب/ شاب لطيف
    "what a nice young man"

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    (Original post by Hellcat12)

    This also has an error:
    The pilot on this plane is not experienced.

    It is exciting to fly by plane:
    W-mun Al-Masir aan Yatayr Balatayaria.

    I don't have google translator at the moment, if you have it, you can maybe check it out.

    Where are you getting these from?
    Im confused hellcat:confused:
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    (Original post by Al-farhan)
    Im confused hellcat:confused:
    I am transliterating, haven't got an Arabic type pad at the moment.
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    (Original post by Hellcat12)
    Really? You need to brush up your knowledge on Arab economy and politics if you want to know what interest the world has in the Arab countries. I am being urged to write another speech here.:sigh:

    It is mainly Oil and trade routes though :ninja2:


    Don't get me wrong, there's huge and vibrant culture to explore, but the only reason there's an interest in Arab politics from the rest of the world (In particular western countries such as ours) is just oil. It's approached in a huge variety of ways, (such as the military trading, the specialist labour trading, and finer products) but it still stems from oil.


    For the record, I've taken an unreasonable interest in Arabic as a language and as a historical identity, and would recommend it to anyone.
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    (Original post by Hellcat12)
    I am transliterating, haven't got an Arabic type pad at the moment.
    Oh I see.
    Phones and arabic eh
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    i know someee.
    'anta nahma' = you're a blessing
    and 'habibti'/'habibi= my love?
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    this one may be useful:

    ترى كيف يلي الطيار نهر هدسون الجبار

    "see the beautiful waters flowing beneath us"
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    As with any other uncommon languages, like Arabic or Mandarin, the problem is where are we going to get teachers to teach these languages?

    (Original post by Iqbal007)
    :facepalm: You do realise that Saudi Arabia isn't the only country that speaks Arabic right?
    You got loads of tourist destinations Morocco, Egypt, Tunisia, Jordan, Lebanon, UAE aka Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Qatar, Bahrain, etc
    Abu Dhabi and Dubai are both in the UAE
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    (Original post by Marco1)
    No. After English, the French, Spanish, Italian and German languages are the beautiful ones. Lets not forget the prominence of Latin and even ancient Greek. All the aforementioned languages have a wealthy expanse of high literature. Arabic script is a nightmare and the language sounds jabberish and ugly to the ear. Despite trade benefits, I would never learn Arabic because I have no interest or admiration for Arabic culture.
    To you arabic sounds 'ugly to the ear' but to be honest I think that for German- it's a matter of opinion. As for the 'nightmare script' you could say exactly the same for mandarin, yet its one of the most used languages in the world and it's not stopping anyone. And Arabic is just as prominent as latin or greek- most spanish words stem from Arabic. You may have no admiration of the current Arabic culture because you don't understand it. It's not just about the wars or the oil, there is history behind it and it's a shame that the media has given you that perception. At the end of the day it's your opinion but just try to understand it more first before you reject it.
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    Anyone here who learnt Arabic as a second language who would be able to tell me how difficult it is and how long it may take?
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    And this is why neg rep was removed-so posts like this could be made without the OP being in fear of being negged:rolleyes: I would rather see neg rep restored than ridiculous posts like this. The relavance to the OP? This thread is socially divisive. It only serves to portray Muslims in a bad light. Many Muslims would find the idea that British children should learn Arabic offensive as it suggests not only a lack of respect for British culture but a desire to take it over.

    I will learn Arabic when Muslim people learn English. Too many Muslims, not just of the older generation but the younger also which is more worrying, don't speak English. These faith schools look to create a system whereby you can essentially cut yourself off from everyday interaction with the UK for these children.

    So get rid of faith schools (not just Muslim ones, all ones that the above concern applies to) and get Muslims to learn English then I will learn Arabic. As well as donate all my money to the UK mosques for the rest of my life. And take out a bank loan to set up a burkha factory in the UK and make the West seem like the Middle East for you.*

    *I don't plan to do this since many Muslims will not keep up their end of the required bargain. Thus it is like me betting a million pounds that I will wake up tommorow-a safe bet really.
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    (Original post by Mourinho<3)
    And this is why neg rep was removed-so posts like this could be made without the OP being in fear of being negged:rolleyes: I would rather see neg rep restored than ridiculous posts like this. The relavance to the OP? This thread is socially divisive. It only serves to portray Muslims in a bad light. Many Muslims would find the idea that British children should learn Arabic offensive as it suggests not only a lack of respect for British culture but a desire to take it over.

    I will learn Arabic when Muslim people learn English. Too many Muslims, not just of the older generation but the younger also which is more worrying, don't speak English. These faith schools look to create a system whereby you can essentially cut yourself off from everyday interaction with the UK for these children.

    So get rid of faith schools (not just Muslim ones, all ones that the above concern applies to) and get Muslims to learn English then I will learn Arabic. As well as donate all my money to the UK mosques for the rest of my life. And take out a bank loan to set up a burkha factory in the UK and make the West seem like the Middle East for you.*

    *I don't plan to do this since many Muslims will not keep up their end of the required bargain. Thus it is like me betting a million pounds that I will wake up tommorow-a safe bet really.
    1) Why would Muslims care and find Non-Muslim children learning Arabic offensive tons of Non-Muslims do it. Moreover Arabic is just that a language sure its the Language of Islam and its sacred texts Qu'ran/Ahadith but Islam/Muhammad did not invent Arabic as it was used in [I]Jahillya /I](Pre-Islamic period) and is used by many Arabs who are Non- Muslims

    2) I think you will find many Muslims in this country understands English
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    (Original post by Al-Mudaari)
    Get learning

    The possibilities in Arabic for the use of figurative language are endless; its allusiveness, tropes and figures of speech place it far beyond the reach of any other language... Arabic loses on translation but all other languages gain on being translated into Arabic - Joel Carmichael, The Shaping of the Arabs
    This is so true I come to this "land of the free" when I am 25. Nobody here can speak my language! it is an outrage how rude! If you go to a spanish resort everyone speaks english!!!!!! Racist much? It should be taught in schools too because I dont want any of my children speaking a language of hate and oppresion!!!
 
 
 
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