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    (Original post by Tom102)
    Unnecessary aggression right there.

    Regardless of league tables it's without question that that the top three London unis are better than Exeter.

    "It's always Durham etc etc"

    It's always London and Oxbridge therefore meaning your first statement was somewhat.. Flawed?

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    (Original post by fudgecake22)
    What about qmul? It only joined in 2012

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    By "london" I meant ICL UCL and LSE, KCL kinda scrapes.
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    Would Exeter not come under top 10?
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    (Original post by Tom102)
    By "london" I meant ICL UCL and LSE, KCL kinda scrapes.
    You can't put KCL in this ''London'' company. KCL versus Yale? Not a chance. UCL verus Yale? Not that much difference, but Yale wins.
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    My unbiased opinion.

    Cambridge
    Oxford
    Imperial
    LSE
    UCL
    Warwick
    St Andrews
    Durham
    Bristol
    Nottingham

    I believe Cambridge just edges Oxford in prestige but I guess many would aay the other way round. Either way, It doesn't matter. They are the top 2. I would say that Imperial is just below Oxbridge and deserves its number 3 position due to graduate prospects, location and is known globally for academic excellence. LSE is in my opinion like Imperial but instead for the sciences, for the humanities but maybe not as prestigeous. UCL and Warwick are similar in terms of quality I would say but due to UCL's location, it provides students with better prospects. I think St Andrews is under estimated. It has excellent facillities and the place and buildings are amazing. It also has an impressive alumni and is very prestigeous. Durham/Bristol/Nottingham all offer excellent graduate opportunities and I feel are bridging the gap with the top Uni's.
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    (Original post by SSpringer20)
    My unbiased opinion.

    Cambridge
    Oxford
    Imperial
    LSE
    UCL
    Warwick
    St Andrews
    Durham
    Bristol
    Nottingham

    I believe Cambridge just edges Oxford in prestige but I guess many would aay the other way round. Either way, It doesn't matter. They are the top 2. I would say that Imperial is just below Oxbridge and deserves its number 3 position due to graduate prospects, location and is known globally for academic excellence. LSE is in my opinion like Imperial but instead for the sciences, for the humanities but maybe not as prestigeous. UCL and Warwick are similar in terms of quality I would say but due to UCL's location, it provides students with better prospects. I think St Andrews is under estimated. It has excellent facillities and the place and buildings are amazing. It also has an impressive alumni and is very prestigeous. Durham/Bristol/Nottingham all offer excellent graduate opportunities and I feel are bridging the gap with the top Uni's.
    Edinburgh > St Andrews
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    From France, I'd say:

    1-2: Oxbridge

    3-4: LSE, Imperial

    5-8: UCL, KCL, Edinburgh, St Andrews (not for academic reasons)

    9-14: Manchester, Warwick, Durham, Bristol, Glasgow, Aberdeen.
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    (Original post by Josb)
    From France, I'd say:

    1-2: Oxbridge

    3-4: LSE, Imperial

    5-8: UCL, KCL, Edinburgh, St Andrews (not for academic reasons)

    9-14: Manchester, Warwick, Durham, Bristol, Glasgow, Aberdeen.
    Which bit of France? Rather odd 9-14 selections!
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    (Original post by Hollywood Hogan)
    Which bit of France? Rather odd 9-14 selections!
    Several provincial unis.
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    Cambridge
    Oxford
    LSE
    Imperial
    UCL
    Durham
    Bath
    Warwick
    St Andrews
    Bristol
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    (Original post by keromedic)
    Someone else mentioned the idea of doing groups. I too agree.
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    Tier 1. Cambridge & Oxford (uncontested)
    Tier 2. Imperial & LSE (specialised institutions)
    Tier 3. UCL & Edinburgh (world-wide recognised universities)
    Tier 4. St Andrews &
    Durham (small universities which focus on undergraduates)
    Tier 5. Warwick & Bath (respected and beginning to make a name for themselves)

    Unis which are near the top 10 imo: Bristol & King's
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    (Original post by Capricancer)
    Tier 1. Cambridge & Oxford (uncontested)
    Tier 2. Imperial & LSE (specialised institutions)
    Tier 3. UCL & Edinburgh (world-wide recognised universities)
    Tier 4. St Andrews &
    Durham (small universities which focus on undergraduates)
    Tier 5. Warwick & Bath (respected and beginning to make a name for themselves)

    Unis which are near the top 10 imo: Bristol & King's
    St Andrews was considered average back in 1998. I wonder why things have changed?
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    (Original post by Hollywood Hogan)
    St Andrews was considered average back in 1998. I wonder why things have changed?
    The future king found his soulmate there. It is obviously a good uni.
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    (Original post by Hollywood Hogan)
    St Andrews was considered average back in 1998. I wonder why things have changed?
    Meh, this thread isn't about what were the top unis in the 1990s.

    If you look through the other replies on this thread, st andrews is included in many replies as well.

    I consider it to be very similar to durham because of their sizes, academic reputation and prestige.
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    (Original post by Capricancer)
    Meh, this thread isn't about what were the top unis in the 1990s.

    If you look through the other replies on this thread, st andrews is included in many replies as well.

    I consider it to be very similar to durham because of their sizes, academic reputation and prestige.
    It only has a total of 9000 undergraduate students, and no Russell Group membership. It should be respected for what it is, but I don't think top graduate employers rate it a top 10.
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    (Original post by Hollywood Hogan)
    It only has a total of 9000 undergraduate students, and no Russell Group membership. It should be respected for what it is, but I don't think top graduate employers rate it a top 10.
    It doesn't even have 9000 undergrads... It has about 6000 undergrads and ~1500 postgrads.

    Being part of the Russell Group doesn't mean it's a good university. There are some very poor unis which are in the RG (I won't name them as I don't want to be rude) and others which are a lot lot better (e.g. St Andrews & Bath). Durham was only admitted to the RG in 2012, but even in 2012 it was still considered within the top 10.

    Well it has a very good graduate prospects (better than Oxford, LSE and Edinburgh) and the student body has the 6th highest grades (you may also notice that my top 10 is the top 10 according to entry standards). But fair point about graduate employers may not viewing it highly - though imo its still a top 10.
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    (Original post by Capricancer)
    It doesn't even have 9000 undergrads... It has about 6000 undergrads and ~1500 postgrads.

    Being part of the Russell Group doesn't mean it's a good university. There are some very poor unis which are in the RG (I won't name them as I don't want to be rude) and others which are a lot lot better (e.g. St Andrews & Bath).

    Well it has a very good graduate prospects (better than Oxford, LSE and Edinburgh) and the student body has the 6th highest grades (you may also notice that my top 10 is the top 10 according to entry standards). But fair point about graduate employers may not viewing it highly - imo its still a top 10.
    There are no poor universities in the Russell Group, and job prospects are better at Nottingham than at St Andrews, even if the average grades are higher at the latter. The all round uni experience at Nottingham is far better and equips students with more skills and experiences than just a rigorous degree. The other thing is, a university with a massive student body like Nottingham will also have plenty of gifted students with 550 plus points amongst the population.

    Nowadays you need much more than a degree from a top 10 uni, you need placement or intern experience. The days of employers muling over prestigious unis is dead, it is just one tick box out of several others.
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    (Original post by Hollywood Hogan)
    There are no poor universities in the Russell Group, and job prospects are better at Nottingham than at St Andrews, even if the average grades are higher at the latter. The all round uni experience at Nottingham is far better and equips students with more skills and experiences than just a rigorous degree.
    Hmmm... I would certainly disagree with your belief that there are no poor universities in the RG.

    Looking at the link i hyperlinked in my message, will inform you that 80.1% St Andrews graduates are employed compared to 76.8% of Nottingham graduates. Only a marginal amount more - but more nonetheless.

    I think being at a university where you are surrounded by academically able students creates a more positive learning environment. Nottingham students have an average of 82 UCAS points less than St Andrews students (so that's A*A*Aaa compared to AABbb) - not exactly the grades you would expect from someone going to a top 10 uni. Nottingham is a good university, don't get me wrong though.

    I think it's up to the student themselves to pursue an all rounded experience, being at St Andrews doesn't necessarily mean you don't have that and neither does being at Nottingham guarantee that.
 
 
 
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