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    (Original post by paul514)
    Yay! A whole four years

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    Well, the point of it is to incorporate all of Europe. One day it will take in the Balkans and the Ukraine. Maybe even Russia in time.
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    Turkey does not want to join the EU and would not be allowed under erdogan
    The Turks disagree with you.

    Turkish Prime Minister Erdoğan was asked by CNN if Turkey still wants to join the EU. His response: "There are 5 million Turks in Europe and 3 million Turks in Germany alone. We are a natural member of the European Union. Germany invited Turkish workers 50 years ago, however 50 years have passed and we have waited at the European Union's doorstep. No other country has experienced such a thing. We will be patient until a point. However when we cross that point, we will bring light to the situation and decide accordingly."[156] During a trip to Yalta, Erdoğan expressed his stern disappointment regarding the EU accession process: "We are still an EU negotiating candidate. At such a position, I wish EU accession. Otherwise, such a scenario would affect a large region including Ukraine and Turkey."[157]
    (Original post by Davij038)
    Juncker has halted expansion for the next four years
    I guess that's why Serbia, Ukraine and several others are taking exactly the "right" steps to join. Why does it matter if they wait 4 years to annex say 7 countries?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11283616

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access...ccession_to_EU
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    (Original post by plstudent)
    Of course it is, and neither statement is that 500 million people will actually move to the UK. They refer to the capacity to close the border for a lot of people.
    So we're closing the border to a whole bunch of people who won't move here? Why?

    (also: we won't)
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    (Original post by gladders)
    So we're closing the border to a whole bunch of people who won't move here? Why?

    (also: we won't)
    Many of them will, and have, which is exactly my point.
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    (Original post by plstudent)
    The Turks disagree with you.
    No they dont, numerous polls have shown support for the EU has been steadily declining since 2006:

    http://www.euractiv.com/section/cent...sh-eu-support/



    I guess that's why Serbia, Ukraine and several others are taking exactly the "right" steps to join. Why does it matter if they wait 4 years to annex say 7 countries?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11283616

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access...ccession_to_EU


    All of those are long drawn out negotiations. In fact only one appears to be progreswssing at all (serbia) and that will be by 2020 at the earliest.
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    No they dont, numerous polls have shown support for the EU has been steadily declining since 2006:
    http://www.euractiv.com/section/cent...sh-eu-support/
    http://www.emmabonino.it/press/world/9340

    The government wants them to join. There is no way they will pass on the chance of money from the EU and the possibility to move to richer countries.
    Show me one single example from a poor country where the people prevented the government from joining.

    (Original post by Davij038)
    All of those are long drawn out negotiations. In fact only one appears to be progreswssing at all (serbia) and that will be by 2020 at the earliest.
    A number of them are progressing, including Albania.

    The Albanian Prime Minister outlined the next step of his government would be to submit a detailed progress report on the implementation of the 5 key reforms to the Commission in Autumn 2015, and then he expected the accession negotiations should start shortly afterwards - before the end of 2015.[23]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Access...European_Union

    The recent agreement with the Ukraine is another example of progression towards EU membership.
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    (Original post by plstudent)
    It means exactly what it says: if 500 million people in the EU (+ Turkey will soon be a member) wanted to moved to the UK, the only chance to stop that would be with Brexit.
    I agree with you, 65 million people can move into my small home town tomorrow, we can't cope we only have one MAcDonald.

    I am going to a ask the town council to build a wall and get the Mexicans to pay for it.
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    Davij038's strategy to get people to sign up for his ideology is to simply deny facts. Of course the Turks want to get in, that's the major condition of a migration deal they just signed with the EU (plus it gives them british taxpayers money). That would take the EU's borders to Syria. EUers like Davij lied to us about joining the Euro, don't let them lie to us about staying in the EU.
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    (Original post by james813)
    Davij038's strategy to get people to sign up for his ideology is to simply deny facts. Of course the Turks want to get in, that's the major condition of a migration deal they just signed with the EU (plus it gives them british taxpayers money). That would take the EU's borders to Syria. EUers like Davij lied to us about joining the Euro, don't let them lie to us about staying in the EU.
    He can lie all he likes its up to you in the ballot box to vote out


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