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    (Original post by Ara8311a)
    Everyone has the same issues with their weight. I know I do but comparing yourself to how you were when you were underweight is not a sensible way to go. Underweight is not a healthy look just like being obese isn't. Have you spoken to anyone about how you feel? I know that lots of people on here want to help but most of us are in similar situations and struggling with our own weight.

    The fact that you recognise it's not a healthy mindset to want to be underweight again reassures me but you need to speak to someone. Even if it's just a friend, it's better than talking to faceless people who don't fully understand your situation. They might be able to offer better advice.
    Thank you for replying. So, do you have/have you had these sort of worries then? How do you/did you deal with them? I presume you're female (apologies if I'm wrong haha! ). I do know that being underweight isn't supposed to be healthy medically but because I was underweight before and I didn't have any health problems it just makes me think "why can't I be underweight and be really skinny and also be healthy". Looks wise, one part of me thinks that I looked much nicer when I was underweight and I just really want to be that size again but then the sensible part of me thinks it's not healthy to be or want to be size 4/size 0 and if I try to lose weight I don't want to end up with an eating disorder or anything.

    I see what you mean that underweight isn't healthy just like being obese but the problem is that society encourages girls/women to be really skinny in order to look attractive so a lot of people are underweight/really thin so since I'm sort of average I feel chubby in comparison. I'm not sure how much of the thread you've read but in it I've been called "fat" by two people, "chubby" by several, "wide and dumpy" by one person, "at the limits of okay almost overweight territory" by one person along with numerous comments about how women need to be skinny/are only attractive when they are skinny/need to have completely flat stomachs and massive thigh gaps otherwise they are fat and I'm just not sure how to deal with those comments and be happy with my size. Probably starting this thread was a bad idea but I didn't expect some of the responses to be so extreme and nasty.

    No, I haven't spoken to anyone about this. To be honest, I don't think I could speak to anyone I know about this; I'd feel really embarrassed so I just don't think I could. The problem I also have is that as I said in my original post I am applying to university for 2017 entry and I've taken a few gap years in between school and university due to illness. My closest friends from school, who I've kept in touch with, are all guys. I went to a very small school and I was not close friends with any of the girls in my year so I don't have any female friends to talk to so that means that it would have to be family and I don't really feel I could talk to them about this.
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    Almost overweight territory? Really, this is going a bit too far now. If people reading this believe you then they could get a seriously distorted view of what is normal and healthy. My BMI is 19.8. That is at the low end of a healthy weight. I am 8 stone and a size 8. I'm 5"3.5 and 5"3 is the average height for a woman in the UK. It is not "extremely short". I used to be very underweight and I know that I'm not really skinny anymore. So, I accept that I'm not super skinny, I accept that I'm a bit curvy, I accept that I'm maybe a bit chubbier than ideal but I am definitely a normal and healthy weight. I am not anywhere close to medically overweight; my BMI is much closer to underweight than overweight. That is a fact. What is your idea of a normal, healthy weight? Someone who is severely underweight?
    BMI is not a clear indicator of health as it doens't take into consideration age, height musce or fat mass.

    Fat girls been calling themselves curvy since the dawn of time, therefore wihout any proof I cannot take your statement to be valid. It is bordeline overweight. Not obese, overweight which 65% of people in the Uk are. Therefore it is a pretty normal thing.
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    I wish i had reference to see what 5ft 3 and size 8 even looks like. Right now I'm just imagining someone looking like Snooki.

    Idk anything about sizes
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    (Original post by Craig David)
    BMI is not a clear indicator of health as it doens't take into consideration age, height musce or fat mass.

    Fat girls been calling themselves curvy since the dawn of time, therefore wihout any proof I cannot take your statement to be valid. It is bordeline overweight. Not obese, overweight which 65% of people in the Uk are. Therefore it is a pretty normal thing.
    As I have already pointed out in this thread, BMI is a respected calculation that is used by the NHS in the UK. Yes, it is used only as a guide and yes there are arguments against it but they are related to people being incorrectly labelled as overweight due to having a high muscle mass etc. The problems with it arise when someone has a BMI that is classed as overweight but they are not actually overweight due to their percentage body fat in reality. If you have a healthy BMI, especially if it is not close to the overweight end, then you are a healthy weight. The NHS BMI calculator does take age into consideration actually and so does body fat percentage and my body fat percentage is 24% which is also well within the healthy range.

    When I say curvy I mean that my body shape is hourglass rather than straight up and down; I do not mean it as a euphemism for fat. Women of any size can be curvy shaped. What do you mean without any proof? I have given you my BMI (19.8), my Body Fat Percentage (24%), my clothes size (UK size 8/US size 4), my weight (8 stone). What other proof do you need? You have also not given any response to the fact that 5"3 is the average height for a woman in the UK. I'm not sure on what possible factual basis you are saying that it is borderline overweight. If you want me to listen to your opinion then you need to justify it with some facts. Well I'm glad you don't think I'm obese... Beyond belief, honestly! No wonder so many women have body image issues.
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    (Original post by lucabrasi98)
    I wish i had reference to see what 5ft 3 and size 8 even looks like. Right now I'm just imagining someone looking like Snooki.

    Idk anything about sizes
    I don't even know who that is haha. If you link a picture then I'll tell you how I look in comparison.
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    Is this a joke? I could only dream of being that size
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    Is this a joke? I could only dream of being that size
    No, it's not a joke. I am definitely serious and if you look through the thread you'll see that I am. Unfortunately, I've actually had quite a lot of negative comments that have made me even more worried about it. How tall and what size are you, if you don't mind me asking? You don't have to answer if you don't want to of course.
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    Does anyone have any advice about the best way(s) to lose weight whilst still being healthy? I would ideally like to get back to a size 6 so I would like to lose at least half a stone.
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    WTF. Some of the people that have said "yes that's chubby" really need to adjust their view of reality. People aren't meant to be sticks, no one likes to cuddle a stick, just be yourself. Be the size you're happy and comfortable being and don't conform to the stencil society says you should be living by.


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    (Original post by patchdoyle)
    WTF. Some of the people that have said "yes that's chubby" really need to adjust their view of reality. People aren't meant to be sticks, no one likes to cuddle a stick, just be yourself. Be the size you're happy and comfortable being and don't conform to the stencil society says you should be living by.


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    Thank you, I'm glad you think it sounds fine. So, would you date a girl that was my size and height then? Sorry for asking, it's just that I just don't know what to think now. I mean, on this thread, I've had responses ranging from saying that I'm underweight and asking if I have an eating disorder to saying that I'm borderline overweight so now I just don't know what to believe. You are probably right about not conforming to the sort of perfect stick thin image that woman are pressured to be; it's just easier said than done for me.
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    (Original post by SophieSmall)
    If you lose 1 stone you'd be around 7 stone with a BMI of 17.1, which is underweight I do not recommend this. I know someone in this thread has already said BMI is useless because it doesn't take into account muscle mass, but that is an argument against the overweight side of the scale. Not the underweight side.

    While yes it is important to be happy with yourself, it's also important to realise why something makes you unhappy or happy. So you can decide what changes are reasonable and healthy not just physically but emotionally.
    Hi, sorry to bother you again but you seem really sensible about all of this. I was just wondering if you could give me any advice on how much weight it would be safe and sensible for me to lose and how I could do it healthily. Or do you think it would be better if I didn't lose any weight and just concentrated on trying to be more positive and happy with the size I am now?
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Hi, sorry to bother you again but you seem really sensible about all of this. I was just wondering if you could give me any advice on how much weight it would be safe and sensible for me to lose and how I could do it healthily. Or do you think it would be better if I didn't lose any weight and just concentrated on trying to be more positive and happy with the size I am now?
    Hello.

    At your height it wouldn't be healthy (in terms of BMI to get any lower than around 105lbs).

    Losing weight is very simple, simply eat less than your TDEE

    http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculato...alculator.html

    Around 500 calories less a day will lose you approximately 1lb of fat a week (1lb of fat = 3500 calories/ 7 days = 500 calories per day).

    However I don't think losing weight is going to solve anything. It's unlikely losing a couple of pounds but not getting as low as you used to be will make you happy or secure in yourself, because it still wouldn't be what you're used to. I think working on your mind would be best to be honest and maybe focus on being healthier rather than smaller.
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    Hello.

    At your height it wouldn't be healthy (in terms of BMI to get any lower than around 105lbs).

    Losing weight is very simple, simply eat less than your TDEE

    http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculato...alculator.html

    Around 500 calories less a day will lose you approximately 1lb of fat a week (1lb of fat = 3500 calories/ 7 days = 500 calories per day).

    However I don't think losing weight is going to solve anything. It's unlikely losing a couple of pounds but not getting as low as you used to be will make you happy or secure in yourself, because it still wouldn't be what you're used to. I think working on your mind would be best to be honest and maybe focus on being healthier rather than smaller.
    Hi, thanks for replying. That's really helpful! My TDEE is 1615 with little orno exercise and 2087 with moderate exercise which is the best I will beable to do just now so that means I'm going to have to have a pretty low amountof calories every day in order to lose weight.

    I see what you mean. It's just so difficult though, I sort of feel the thinner I amthe better if you see what I mean and because when I was underweightI didn't have any health problems I keep thinking "why can't I be reallyskinny/underweight and healthy". One part of me thinks that looks wise Ilooked much nicer when I was underweight and from that perspective I justreally want to be that size again but then the sensible part of me knows thatthat probably wouldn't be healthy.

    I think it was maybe a mistake to start this thread as well because, although I'vehad a lot of really lovely replies, I seem to be really focussed onthe horrible replies. I do know what TSR can be like but I stillunderestimated quite how nasty some of the replies would be and how much Iwould worry about them as well. I expected to be able to ignore replieslike that but actually the replies from Jebedee, Madeline, Craig Davidetc. calling me "fat", "chubby", "wide and dumpy", "almost overweight" plus many more hurtful comments have really affected me and made me even more insecure about how I look.
    I was obviously already worried before I started the thread in particular because, as I said in my original post, I've been ill so have had to take several gap yearsbetween school and uni so I was already really concerned about if people I knowfrom school (both friends and people I don't get on with) who I haven't seenfor a while notice that I've gained weight (I've been bullied in the pastalthough not about weight but I'm probably more worried about whatother people think than I should be because of that) and also about what peoplewill think about how I look when I go to uni. I was already comparing how Ilook both with how I used to look and with other women (both with othergirls I know on Facebook and people I don't know when I go out). So, I wasreally not in a great state of mind about it already but getting people actuallycalling me fat for the first time has just made me feel so self conscious aboutmy size now. I know I'm not actually fat but I do feel slightly chubby/averageand lots of girls I know are both tall and really thin so looks wise I justreally want to be skinny again although I know that being underweight isn't healthy.

    Do you definitely think that losing weight to be underweight again would beunhealthy/a mistake? Do you have any advice on how to feel more positive andworry less about how I look? I do already eat healthily but as soon as I'm wellenough I'm going to start to exercise again. Sorry for writing so much butI feel like I really need to talk to someone and there's no one Iknow that I would feel comfortable talking to about this.
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    Hello.

    At your height it wouldn't be healthy (in terms of BMI to get any lower than around 105lbs).

    Losing weight is very simple, simply eat less than your TDEE

    http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculato...alculator.html

    Around 500 calories less a day will lose you approximately 1lb of fat a week (1lb of fat = 3500 calories/ 7 days = 500 calories per day).

    However I don't think losing weight is going to solve anything. It's unlikely losing a couple of pounds but not getting as low as you used to be will make you happy or secure in yourself, because it still wouldn't be what you're used to. I think working on your mind would be best to be honest and maybe focus on being healthier rather than smaller.
    Sorry, I was having trouble getting the new student room message feature with the text boxes to work and it seems to have taken some of the spaces out. Hopefully you can still understand what I wrote
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    Hi, size 8/10 isn't chubby at all! At your age, especially, I would be expecting you to no longer be a size 6! I am an inch taller than you and my sizing is very strange. For "hip" jeans, I am a size 8 because I have wide hips, but for high-waisted jeans I'm a size 6. Similarly with different types of skirts. It really doesn't matter. However, I would encourage you to deal with any issues you have surrounding your size (which seems perfectly normal to me!) before you start uni, because you don't want any ongoing worries like that hanging over you when uni starts to get high-pressured. Remember, when you start uni, that most of the other people there will be younger than you, so it would be natural for them to be slighter, and I would not consider it likely that they are all size 6! I hope you can feel more confident about it, don't try to lose lots of weight, if you fret about these kinds of things, maybe consider helping yourself become more confident in whatever shaped body you have. I hate to repeat a cliche, but it really doesn't matter what you look like (especially at uni) if you are kind, and (especially at uni) intelligent and clever.
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    (Original post by Just-ruby)
    Hi, size 8/10 isn't chubby at all! At your age, especially, I would be expecting you to no longer be a size 6! I am an inch taller than you and my sizing is very strange. For "hip" jeans, I am a size 8 because I have wide hips, but for high-waisted jeans I'm a size 6. Similarly with different types of skirts. It really doesn't matter. However, I would encourage you to deal with any issues you have surrounding your size (which seems perfectly normal to me!) before you start uni, because you don't want any ongoing worries like that hanging over you when uni starts to get high-pressured. Remember, when you start uni, that most of the other people there will be younger than you, so it would be natural for them to be slighter, and I would not consider it likely that they are all size 6! I hope you can feel more confident about it, don't try to lose lots of weight, if you fret about these kinds of things, maybe consider helping yourself become more confident in whatever shaped body you have. I hate to repeat a cliche, but it really doesn't matter what you look like (especially at uni) if you are kind, and (especially at uni) intelligent and clever.
    Hi, thank you, I'm glad you don't think so. Do you think so? How old are you if you don't mind me asking? Yeah, I'm a size 8 for both tops and bottoms normally I think. I say I think because since I've gained weight I haven't bought many new clothes. I tried on some a few weeks ago but didn't buy anything cause I didn't feel anything looked right. This is obviously part of my problem because the clothes that I've got (mostly size 6s with a few small size 8s) are now too small and so I really need to get some new ones but I feel like nothing looks flattering when I try things on and also I stupidly don't want to buy bigger sizes if you know what I mean. Like, I've never bought a size 10 before but I think I might need to now sometimes although I think I'm most often a size 8 and I kind of feel like I shouldn't be that size if that makes sense. The last time I went clothes shopping I even discounted some clothes that I would previously have liked from even trying on cause I thought I wasn't skinny enough to look good in it anymore so I just feel like crap about it just now basically.

    Yes, I do agree that I should sort it out before uni. Presumably you read my last post to SophieSmall so I don't need to repeat anything I said in it? I know! That's what worries me as well: that because the other girls will be younger they're even more likely to be thinner! The thing is I look young for my age and I'm not planning to tell anyone my age so I'll just look the same age as everyone else so if most girls are really thin... That's really the problem. Do you have any advice on how to be more confident and happy with the body shape I have? Right now I'm just finding it so difficult especially with the comments on here as well now cause now when I go out I think if several people on here have called me fat then what's everyone else thinking. I see what you mean and hopefully that will be fine. Those are the things I usually care about the most. I just worry about both other girls judging me and also what guys think because I do want to be able to get into a relationship at uni if possible.
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    How old are you if you don't mind me asking?
    So I'm a *few* years younger than you, a little bit younger than you, but once you reach past about 13, height and BMI become more important than age!

    I feel like nothing looks flattering when I try things on and also I stupidly don't want to buy bigger sizes if you know what I mean.
    I totally understand - occasionally I feel embarrassed about buying clothes that are bigger - even though sometimes I do want to buy clothes lots of size bigger (I've bought size 12 jumpers before now - sooo cozy!). If you feel like you're being judged, honestly you are not! Some of my friends work in clothes shops and the first thing they've told me is that they don't really notice who is buying the clothes, or what clothes they are buying!

    I kind of feel like I shouldn't be that size if that makes sense.
    Honestly, your size right now is really healthy, natural and normal. There's nothing to be ashamed of about it!

    I even discounted some clothes that I would previously have liked cause I thought I wasn't skinny enough to look good in it anymore.
    I've had this, honestly, and I think most people have. One of my friends bought a size 4 skirt, and I really liked it, so I bought a size 8 (in a different colour so we wouldn't have exactly the same!) and was worried it wouldn't look good on me.
    And, even if I say so myself, I looked great! You can always look good in everything, however short, tall, skinny, or not skinny, you are! You just need to feel confidence. I bought a long skirt recently - I have always been not-so-keen on long things because I always thought I looked silly in them because I was short, but really, it also looked fine, because I plucked up the courage to go out and it felt great! Once you have the confidence, you'll look fab in anything!

    what worries me as well: that because the other girls will be younger they're even more likely to be thinner!
    I know how you must be feeling, but seriously, please don't! Even if you look young for your age, if you've got into uni and you're doing a course you enjoy, no one really cares what you look like. My sister goes to a very prestigious uni, and she says that although people do turn up looking smart, there are very few really skinny people there because they're focusing on their essays and dissertations rather than how they look, and everyone respects each-other however they look because they all know how hard they've worked to get there. Just keep remembering that everyone is a different person, has different backgrounds, habits, priorities and worries, so don't fret about it. Remember that they are a different age!!! It doesn't matter if they are thinner than you, as you are aware, being really skinny isn't always healthy! If you do fret about it, it is likely to detract from your degree. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't worry about it - don't worry if you look the same age or are a different size, you are beautiful and clever anyway, so who cares what they look like?

    . Do you have any advice on how to be more confident and happy with the body shape I have?
    I had loads of inseccuritites when I was twelve and thirteen, and still do occaissionally go through periods of hating myself and my body (which I recognise everyone goes through at some points in their lives, especially women in a culture where we are constantly told size 0 is beautiful). However, things that I have done and found successful to help me feel better about myself are:
    => start complimenting yourself - sounds weird but it does help
    => start noticing things about yourself that you like
    => start believing compliments you get from other people - it takes time, but stop deconstruction what they might mean in your head and just realise that they actually do like that thing about you
    => Realise that you are not judging other people, and seeing as you aren't judging them, they probably aren't judging you.
    => start complimenting other people
    => compliment yourself and other people on things OTHER than appearance - eg "I think you're really kind" or "you're so fast thinking" or "wow, I'm really good at cheering people up!"
    => do something different with your hair - whether this be a haircut, or dying it, or even just curling it or doing a different hairstyle. It sounds weird - but I and a few of my friend have had our hair cut (some have had a pixie cut, others have had bobs, I went for just above my shoulders) and it really makes you stand tall and feel different!

    I think if several people on here have called me fat then what's everyone else thinking.
    Well, several people are unkind, inconsiderate, unhelpful, wrong, and very misguided. Most people on here have been concerned about your wellbeing. I have only been called fat, (except by myself and as a joke between me and my best friend) and that was by a teenage boy in a park when I was twelve and climbing a tree, and it really wrecked my life until I realised that it didn't matter. What most people will be thinking when they see you are "oh, there's a person", a few might think "oh, that's a pretty person" and once they get to know you they'll probably think "Oh, that's a really nice, clever, pretty person." . What other people think really doesn't matter, but they're probably thinking that you are really cool - both in appearance and other ways too!

    I just worry about other girls judging me.
    Don't. Really just don't. Three reasons. One, they might not be judging you. Two, if they are, they might be judging you fairly and thinking that you're another human being, with complex thought patterns and a nice figure. And three, it doesn't matter what they think, it's what you think and feel that matters.

    Also what guys think because I do want to be able to get into a relationship at uni.
    That's okay. But being thin doesn't make you attractive. Being size 8/10 doesn't make you unattractive. My friend in a relationship, has been for three months, she's the same age as you and a size 10, and her relationship is one of the most stable I've ever seen. Obviously, the first impression you give someone is important, but if you want a good relationship, it'll be based on a lot more than what you look like. That being said, it is important to highlight that size 8/10 is not unattractive (not that any size is actually unattractive but most people, who conform to society's opinions of attractiveness do not find size 8/10 attractive).

    Finally, I feel I should say that when I say "a couple of years younger than you" I'm actually 15. However, I have learned a lot about body confidence and overcoming insecurities over the past few years, and I honestly hope all the stuff I've written should be helpful to you! Anyway, I really hope it has been. Good luck with all your endeavours. Please stay healthy, and awesome
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    Thank you, I'm glad you think it sounds fine. So, would you date a girl that was my size and height then? Sorry for asking, it's just that I just don't know what to think now. I mean, on this thread, I've had responses ranging from saying that I'm underweight and asking if I have an eating disorder to saying that I'm borderline overweight so now I just don't know what to believe. You are probably right about not conforming to the sort of perfect stick thin image that woman are pressured to be; it's just easier said than done for me.
    It's hard to answer those questions for definite because I haven't met you, weight size and height sits differently on different people, but I'm sure there's nothing wrong with you! Post a pic if you like! Lol. Stick with not conforming, just be you!


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    What is 5"3 in non retard units?
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    What is 5"3 in non retard units?
    I had to google it, 160cm


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