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    (Original post by barnetlad)
    In other news, Leicester City have a moderately easy Champions League group. This could mean they make the knockout stage.
    Yes, they are quite fortunate in that respect. I would be surprised if they didn't make the knockout stage.
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    (Original post by Quamquam123)
    You have to subscribe to see the article.

    I blame the EU.
    "European news publishers will be given the right to levy fees on internet platforms such as Google if search engines show snippets of their stories, under radical copyright reforms being finalised by the European Commission [...] At the heart of the draft copyright plan, news publishers would receive “exclusive rights” to make their content available online to the public in a move that would force services such as Google News to agree terms with news organisations for showing extracts of articles."
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    With regards to the labour leadership contest i'd feel between the two that there's only one obvious choice in that while Smith may be unexceptional, he at least does not come with the baggage of Corbyn, nor hate this countries historic institutions and alliances.

    The main takeaway though is just what an abject situation Labour is really in choosing between those two. A man who probably can't win in 2020 vs a man who really doesn't care about winning in 2020. For the Tories to have an average lead of 10% (August so far) a year after the election is incredible and not a position that i suspect an incumbent has ever lost from.
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    A final call to everyone about the Ad Hoc - if you are interested in submitting an article, you have until the 31st August (next Wednesday) to send it to me. It can be on any political topic you want or MHoC gossip. It can also be as long (or short) as you want.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Anyone want to convince me to vote for Mr Smith or Mr Corbyn? I haven't voted yet.
    If you want things to change vote Corbyn. If you want them to stay the same vote Smith.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Anyone want to convince me to vote for Mr Smith or Mr Corbyn? I haven't voted yet.
    If you want a leader who sticks to their principles corbyn
    If not smith.

    I actually respect corbyn for sticking with his beliefs unlike a lot of politicians who just care about power.
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    (Original post by EricAteYou)
    I'm waiting for my postal vote, so I can spoil my ballot paper.
    I think with this election you either agree with what Corbyn is proposing and vote for him, even though the media are telling us he is unelectable.

    You can vote for Owen Smith, but you really won't know what you are actually going to get, at is really not clear who is pulling his strings.

    Or you don't vote and wait until there is a genuine challenge, or a candidate whose policies you do like.
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    (Original post by Aliccam)
    If you want things to change vote Corbyn. If you want them to stay the same vote Smith.
    If you want real change vote Green
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Anyone want to convince me to vote for Mr Smith or Mr Corbyn? I haven't voted yet.
    Very surprised I didn't notice this earlier.

    Think of everything this Tory government is doing that you don't like. Now, given the impossibility of a true socialist like Corbyn ever winning an election, think whether you're prepared to see some of those things changed in 4 years' time, or in 14 years' time. If the former, vote Smith, if the latter, vote Corbyn.
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    (Original post by Aliccam)
    If you want things to change vote Corbyn. If you want them to stay the same vote Smith.
    If you want to lose vote either Smith or Corbyn.
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Anyone want to convince me to vote for Mr Smith or Mr Corbyn? I haven't voted yet.
    If you're happy to let the Blairite centrists, (who criticise Corbyn more than the Tories, abstain on welfare cuts and support alot of Tory policy destroy their democratically elected leader and prefer to split the party than work under him) win then vote for more of the same and vote Smith. If you want to go and reappoint another Milliband (who, somehow, will be more electable than him) vote Smith,

    If you want to use this as a chance to weaken the neoliberalist strangle hold on the UK and offer a genuine alternative to austerity, vote Corbyn.
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    I still find it bizarre that people think Smith is more electable than Corbyn. Apart from anything else, his stance on the EU referendum is basically just a big "f*ck you" to the 52% of people who voted leave, many of whom are the working class voters that Labour are reliant upon.
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    Ah, turns out *that the new JD contract would have removed NHSE's obligations as an employer. Blocked on appeal by self-funding junior doctors in court.
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    (Original post by Aliccam)
    If you want things to change vote Corbyn. If you want them to stay the same vote Smith.
    Ironic but you have a point. Hi, haven't spoken to you before I don't think. Have you considered joining the TSR Labour Party?
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    So it seems our little world it perfect then?
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    (Original post by Aph)
    So it seems our little world it perfect then?
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
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    (Original post by RayApparently)
    Ironic but you have a point. Hi, haven't spoken to you before I don't think. Have you considered joining the TSR Labour Party?
    Oi, corbynista's belong in the socialist party, not your pseudo-peoples party. Hands off! :P
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    (Original post by cBay)
    Oi, corbynista's belong in the socialist party, not your pseudo-peoples party. Hands off! :P
    I'd report you to compliance but they are too busy blocking people from voting because they like the foo fighters
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    (Original post by Aph)
    No items up for debate.
    You'd better create some then.
 
 
 
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