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Jessaay!
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So it turns out George's are only allowing 10 medical students across years 2 - 4 to take up their external intercalated BSc offer. Apparently third and fourth years take priority since 'it's their last chance' yet academic ranking will play a big part in who goes out. It's ****ing stupid. Even though I'm ranked 13th in my year, 44 external offers have been made to students at George's and if priority is given to the older years, well then, I'm ****ed, right?

What is the ****ing point in working or trying hard any more? Seriously, it's a low blow. I spoke to the iBSc co-ordinator and all she could say was 'oh well you could reapply in the worst case scenario'. Yeah, no hassle or anything.

I find out between May 20th - 24th if I have final permission to go to King's. If I'm not allowed, do I have a case to take it up with the MDU?
That's actually ridiculous. I don't see how they can just dictate you all like that. It's your choice, and seeing as you have a place it's a bit of an outrage you shouldn't get to go.
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Got a link? I've looked before but there are quite a few and people always call them by different abbreviations.

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**** me theres alot of stuff in 3rd year! Time to just crack on methinks. Its just a big step up from preclins, now, the skills you pick up and the cases you see arn't for someone elses' benifit, they're to add to your own experience. The benifit I guess might be down the line with a sickie. Oh to be a fresher again.
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**** me theres alot of stuff in 3rd year! Time to just crack on methinks. Its just a big step up from preclins, now, the skills you pick up and the cases you see arn't for someone elses' benifit, they're to add to your own experience. The benifit I guess might be down the line with a sickie. Oh to be a fresher again.
Despite this, and the fact preclins are easier, I'd still find clinical years on the whole much more enjoyable and interesting and just want to get out of preclin already, even though I've got a long time until I can :p:
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(Original post by Jessaay!)
Despite this, and the fact preclins are easier, I'd still find clinical years on the whole much more enjoyable and interesting and just want to get out of preclin already, even though I've got a long time until I can :p:
Oh it is far far more enjoyable. I had to sit through path week and I thought - HOW! did I cope with 2 years of lectures? You get to see how good (and at times how bad) things can be, and you never really want to go back to bookwork again. The bookwork is now for the clinics work, not as before, because it is just bookwork. I don't mean that to say the preclinical stuff is useless - it isn't, if you push me to say take stuff out, I'm not sure I could, but its kindof when you see patients with that knowledge buried deeply somewhere in the brain, the fact that it might be useful and actually convert to results makes the suffering alot more bearable. Enthusiathem peaks and dips, you can feel great and equally have your confidence knocked by the smallest things. For example, I got *******ed by a patient for when I failed bloods, that was pretty bad...and then it sounds mean, but felt alot better when my reg missed too

Then again, this is why I'm doing a medical degree - this is the good bit!

Edit - I'm not sure if easier is the right word, because you do need to know the theory, if you don't know something existed, and don't know how it presents, you can't diagnose it, you can't treat it (recent case, dystonia myotonica, wtf!). Its just a different sort of learning, teaching on wards is far far more sporadic, almost sometimes as a aside because people have a job to do. But you learn alot from just being with the team too - how they make decisions, how they think basically, in some ways ultimatly what treatment any one individual patient had is not really the point, what you need to absorb is what the thinking process was so that later on, you might be able to think through a problem, I guess that means you basically can't regurgitate information anymore. The stuff is alot mroe fluid than in preclinicals, and some people do miss the stability. Alot of that this that different people will often deal with things in slightly different ways, none of which are necessarily wrong or correct, just different, but you lack the experience to really see why, so its kind of 'lets absorb this and think about it later' - and then sometimes, later, the penny drops and you start to build a clinical perspective as to why things are the way they are.
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Oops I rambled.
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**** me theres alot of stuff in 3rd year! Time to just crack on methinks. Its just a big step up from preclins, now, the skills you pick up and the cases you see arn't for someone elses' benifit, they're to add to your own experience. The benifit I guess might be down the line with a sickie. Oh to be a fresher again.
Same, have been in clinical rotation for about 11 weeks now and absolutely loving the experience. And it really is about getting out what you put in, I love the fact there is no timetable and lesser restrictions which allow you to take up more opportunities and see more things.
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Same, have been in clinical rotation for about 11 weeks now and absolutely loving the experience. And it really is about getting out what you put in, I love the fact there is no timetable and lesser restrictions which allow you to take up more opportunities and see more things.
Oh God.
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Same, have been in clinical rotation for about 11 weeks now and absolutely loving the experience. And it really is about getting out what you put in, I love the fact there is no timetable and lesser restrictions which allow you to take up more opportunities and see more things.
Which medical school do you go to?

Is it common for people to have no timetable? I am SO JEALOUS!!

In Peninsula 3rd and 4th year we have a ridiculously over complicated timetable. We have stupid weeks called e.g. 'Chest Pain' or 'Abdo Pain' and then have a selection of placements based around that e.g. for abdo pain, there was half a day in A&E, half a day in general surgery, half a day in the early pregnancy unit, and assessment of GI exam and case presentation. I hate all the restrictions they put on us, we never get to know anyone or any ward. By far the best experiences I have had have been when I have gone to the ward in my own time, found an enthusiastic doctor, and hung around with them for a bit. SSUs are also really good, because you get to stay with one team for 3 weeks, and just see what they do. No 'academic day', no rushing off to another department to learn about some 'service' that won't exist by the time we graduate. I really haven't appreciated the way they overcomplicate everything this year. I can't wait till 5th year, I think finally then we just get attached to a team with no timetable.
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I have really like the preclinical years actually, like a 'proper' university experience rather than clinics where I think it will be a bit more restricted (was for my 3 weeks this year although I really enjoyed my on call stuff and would happily do it more). I also fear not utilising my time well...

I think I am insane for getting myself treasurer for one of the biggest uni societies when I won't be at main campus alot. Huzzah for online banking! I will be running around like a madman next year. Particularly if I try and ram yachting in there too....well you only go to uni once....

Really liking these few weeks to far. Not looking forward to paper writing...
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Which medical school do you go to?

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They're having a big overhaul of 3rd and 4th year. It'll be all changed by the time I get there apparently. Streamlined was the word they used. And decluttered.
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One of my registrars mentioned something about you guys having chest pain and abdo pain modules and I honestly thought he was taking the piss and was simply trying to make a point about how ridiculous some courses are.

Now I know better...
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They're having a big overhaul of 3rd and 4th year. It'll be all changed by the time I get there apparently. Streamlined was the word they used. And decluttered.
Ah that sounds good! Do you know any more specifics? You seem to be really up on what the plans are for improving the course, I'm really impressed. Are you involved with student parliament?

I'm really unsure what I think about PMS overall, I do really enjoy it here and I think there are many, many great things about the course, but there are also a lot of big things I have problems with.
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One of my registrars mentioned something about you guys having chest pain and abdo pain modules and I honestly thought he was taking the piss and was simply trying to make a point about how ridiculous some courses are.

Now I know better...
Yeah sadly it is true! We get a lot of confused looks when we introduce ourselves, and people ask if we're going to be in the department for a while, and we tell them that its just for one morning and we are only looking for patients with abdominal pain.
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I hate having my birthday this time of year. Means I can't really do anything till after exams >.>.

Past three years I've had exams a week after/on my birthday. Looking forward to next year when apparently my exams still wouldn't be for a month!
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Can I join the soc? :teeth:
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Can I join the soc? :teeth:
No.
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No.
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Right. It's time for me to get banned from TSR for a few weeks so I don't fail anatomy and Clinical Laboratory Sciences.
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Right. It's time for me to get banned from TSR for a few weeks so I don't fail anatomy and Clinical Laboratory Sciences.
Where's your sense of risk?
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