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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Aww, I wanted to see an indie run to jazz things up a bit
    I've decided not to at this time as I have other priorities. I intend to run next GE, though.
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    (Original post by Whiggy)
    I've decided not to at this time as I have other priorities. I intend to run next GE, though.
    Good...you vs Lime-man?
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Good...you vs Lime-man?
    I'm game if he is!
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    So you mean you don't think they will commit electoral suicide with the NHS? So why would they commit electoral suicide with your guys paranoia?
    Because they're looking out for a cushy job after they leave the benches.

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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    Because they're looking out for a cushy job after they leave the benches.

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    No, that's the reason they want to stay in the EU
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    (Original post by Whiggy)
    I'd imagine that Labour will gain a couple of seats, whilst the Conservatives would lose a couple, as would be the case IRL.

    My endorsement? Well, that would be telling, wouldn't it?
    Much depends on whether March was just a bad month that will be forgotten or change the tone. At any rate the worst case scenario going by the average of phone polling would suggest a 3% swing from Con to Lab which is about 2 seats in our elections so 16-12.
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    Seems we still haven't matched the output of Parliament XIX

    Total for the 19th parliament

    Government: 43
    Liberal: 37
    Conservative: 36
    Ukip: 26
    Libertarian: 7
    Green: 6
    Socialist: 2
    Labour: 2

    As above then, 20,
    Ukip: 53
    Green: 16
    Government: 16
    Conservative: 10
    Labour: 8
    Socialist: 1

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    Ukip: 20
    Government: 19
    Green: 18
    Conservative: 13
    Socialist: 8
    Liberal: 3
    19th parliament was brilliant for all round activity (though we and the Liberals were one of the fuzzy opposition coalitions back then).

    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    I'm still waiting for the VoNC in Cameron so we can get a proper Tory at the head again from 1922

    Creating the liberty and freedoms for the locals to **** everything up and go backwards.
    May or a back bencher will be getting the 1922 endorsement. The party membership will likely elect another moderate though, most hard liners left for Ukip.

    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    If Cameron does go I still believe Crabb should replace him. He at least has a backstory that would allow him to communicate with normal people, not to mention the Welsh aspect and the effect it would have on Labour. There are plenty of people in Wales that would vote Tory if it meant a Welsh PM.
    Having looked at his policies a bit more i don't see it.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Much depends on whether March was just a bad month that will be forgotten or change the tone. At any rate the worst case scenario going by the average of phone polling would suggest a 3% swing from Con to Lab which is about 2 seats in our elections so 16-12.
    Cameron's offshore fund revelations should ensure that March wasn't just a bad month that will be forgotten.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Cameron's offshore fund revelations should ensure that March wasn't just a bad month that will be forgotten.
    I highly doubt the electorate will care anywhere near as much as the lefties trying to nail his dead father to him.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Aww, I wanted to see an indie run to jazz things up a bit
    You mean the Nat Libs running isn't enough to make things interesting already?
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    I highly doubt the electorate will care anywhere near as much as the lefties trying to nail his dead father to him.
    He profited from it by his own admission, and given that people tend to resent paying tax, I can't imagine they'll like a Prime Minister who has been complicit in tax evasion, especially when said Prime Minister's government was supposed to be clamping down on tax evasion.


    (Original post by The Financier)
    You mean the Nat Libs running isn't enough to make things interesting already?
    The only thing remotely related to the Nat Libs that's doing any running is whoever is responsible for running the permanent vegetative state ward at the MHoC's nearest hospital
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    (Original post by Kay_Winters)
    Well the Government don't need to, TTIP can do that, although then again WHO state we no longer have an NHS as it is anyway.

    We vote to leave in June, that is just under four years till they could vote in a Labour Government to reverse everything done in that time, that is there mindset, and it's an infectious one amongst all those I have talked to in London Young Labour who aren't massively for the EU
    No it can't. TTIP will only give US the right to bid for contracts however those same contracts must also allow EU firms to bid anyway. The notion that we'd be sued into proper privatisation is absurd and a Green Party scare story.

    (Original post by Whiggy)
    Most likely, as I don't think I'd be any good at agreeing with party policies, etc., and I'm torn between endorsing Labour and Conservative for election at the moment.
    What are your policy positions.

    Your statement about being a moderate conservative but a commie compared to the TSR variant is very wierd considering we are objectively further left than RL. May i suggest you've spent too much time looking at one or two members and not enough looking at our output or members like myself and Financier.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    He profited from it by his own admission, and given that people tend to resent paying tax, I can't imagine they'll like a Prime Minister who has been complicit in tax evasion, especially when said Prime Minister's government was supposed to be clamping down on tax evasion.

    The only thing remotely related to the Nat Libs that's doing any running is whoever is responsible for running the permanent vegetative state ward at the MHoC's nearest hospital
    iT's possible the left may paint him bad enough but i doubt informed people will care that he had shares in a company that were sold by the time he became PM.

    I still don't think there'll be a lasting polling impact though. The Tory civil war post referendum will be far more defining but as things stand my money will still be on an increased Tory majority.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    He profited from it by his own admission, and given that people tend to resent paying tax, I can't imagine they'll like a Prime Minister who has been complicit in tax evasion, especially when said Prime Minister's government was supposed to be clamping down on tax evasion.



    The only thing remotely related to the Nat Libs that's doing any running is whoever is responsible for running the permanent vegetative state ward at the MHoC's nearest hospital
    Care to tell me when he engaged in tax evasion?
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    iT's possible the left may paint him bad enough but i doubt informed people will care that he had shares in a company that were sold by the time he became PM.

    I still don't think there'll be a lasting polling impact though. The Tory civil war post referendum will be far more defining but as things stand my money will still be on an increased Tory majority.
    Most voters aren't informed people though, and if you throw enough mud, it will start to stick.

    I'd say it'll be a hung parliament, because imo Ukip's vote share is guaranteed to go up post-referendum whatever happens, and stay up enough to take a couple of seats and **** with the result of a lot more.


    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Care to tell me when he engaged in tax evasion?
    I never said he engaged in it strictly speaking, only that he was complicit.
    http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016...-panama-papers
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Most voters aren't informed people though, and if you throw enough mud, it will start to stick.

    I'd say it'll be a hung parliament, because imo Ukip's vote share is guaranteed to go up post-referendum whatever happens, and stay up enough to take a couple of seats and **** with the result of a lot more.



    I never said he engaged in it strictly speaking, only that he was complicit.
    http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016...-panama-papers
    Still not seeing the evasion.
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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Still not seeing the evasion.
    Pretty sure setting up a trust in a tax haven when you're a British citizen with no connection to said tax haven is tax evasion.
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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Pretty sure setting up a trust in a tax haven when you're a British citizen with no connection to said tax haven is tax evasion.
    Funnily enough the people who's job it is to know these things don't agree.

    I'm just waiting for when the labour names start coming out to wipe the smirk of people's faces.

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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    No it can't. TTIP will only give US the right to bid for contracts however those same contracts must also allow EU firms to bid anyway. The notion that we'd be sued into proper privatisation is absurd and a Green Party scare story.



    What are your policy positions.

    Your statement about being a moderate conservative but a commie compared to the TSR variant is very wierd considering we are objectively further left than RL. May i suggest you've spent too much time looking at one or two members and not enough looking at our output or members like myself and Financier.
    That is the case in the US though.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    What are your policy positions.

    Your statement about being a moderate conservative but a commie compared to the TSR variant is very wierd considering we are objectively further left than RL. May i suggest you've spent too much time looking at one or two members and not enough looking at our output or members like myself and Financier.
    - Socially liberal policies, such as continuing to outlaw discrimination on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation etc.

    - Support cuts to non-essential departments, although only to a certain extent; reform the benefits system, making cuts where possible but providing support to those who really need it.

    - A top tax rate of 40-45%, and tax breaks for smaller businesses (i.e. local shops).

    - Protect animals from abuse by strengthening sentences for those who choose to attack/abuse animals without being provoked.

    These are some of my priorities.
 
 
 
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