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    (Original post by J_C_)
    This might be a good template to apply to the majority of shootings we've seen in the past few years....
    You can't really apply point 5 to the Bataclan and Hebdo shootings. They clearly were acts of terror.
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    (Original post by tanyapotter)
    are you worried that it's possible you share the same political ideologies of a murderer? is this why you're so vehemently denying that this had something to do with right-wing extremism?
    How would I know if I share the same political ideologies of the murderer when we pretty much have no idea what his political ideologies actually are?

    But, no... I'm not worried. Right wing extremism isn't exactly a prevalent issue.
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    (Original post by Stiff Little Fingers)
    The point being that eyewitness accounts are only valid if they agree with your preconceived notions? Because I think we can be damn sure if the same eyewitness had said they'd shouted Allah Akbar you'd not be saying they're not reliable.
    It wasn't an eyewitness account though, was it? Tahir iirc essentially said that other people said the attacker shouted it. There have been no actual eyewitness accounts that support the claim so far.
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    (Original post by Thutmose-III)
    The only account of this happening came from a man called Aamir Tahir. He said something along the lines of "Apparently he shouted "Britain First". He specifically qualified it with "apparently".

    I have not heard any further reports or statements from witnesses on that subject
    Why is this source not good enough for you? It would be so ironic if it were because his name is Aamir Tahir..
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    Feel so bad for her lil girls and her husband.
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    (Original post by Thutmose-III)
    You can't really apply point 5 to the Bataclan and Hebdo shootings. They clearly were acts of terror.
    If I'm honest, I didn't notice point 5, you're correct. It wouldn't work for Tunisia either. The other points though, do seem to be applicable to the majority of attacks (though I haven't scanned through all of them), even if they were strongly coordinated.
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    (Original post by Stiff Little Fingers)
    The point being that eyewitness accounts are only valid if they agree with your preconceived notions?
    Nope. You obviously also missed my point.
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    (Original post by tanyapotter)
    Why is this source not good enough for you? It would be so ironic if it were because his name is Aamir Tahir..
    You consider that quote to be a source good enough to be believed? Dear me.
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    (Original post by tanyapotter)
    Why is this source not good enough for you?
    Because it sounds like he wasn't even there (i.e. saying "Apparently he shouted X". In other words "Other people said he shouted X"), and as a law student I have a tendency to want corroboration when the original source for a claim seems weak, at best.

    Tahir said

    “The whole street thinks it was me but it wasn’t.

    “Apparently the guy who did it shouted ‘Britain first’ and if I had been there I would have tackled him.”
    "If I had been there". Hmmm
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    You consider that quote to be a source good enough to be believed? Dear me.
    I just checked the original quote again

    “The whole street thinks it was me but it wasn’t.

    “Apparently the guy who did it shouted ‘Britain first’ and if I had been there I would have tackled him.”
    "If I had been there" doesn't give us much confidence.
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    The way that the left / remain camps are using this incident to further their cause is disgusting.
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    He might just hate refugees and identified her as pro-refugee.

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    Horrific! :cry2:

    My thoughts are with her family and those close to her who must be devastated beyond description.
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    (Original post by Thutmose-III)
    You can't really apply point 5 to the Bataclan and Hebdo shootings. They clearly were acts of terror.
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    (Original post by EuanF)

    This literally proves nothing though. Many people often don't know the true nature of someone's views until something like this occurs.
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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    He might just hate refugees and identified her as pro-refugee.

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    Grasping at straws

    Look, I know people are terrified of a brexit, but show some class, her corpse is still warm, and there are conflicting reports about what the attack was really about. Don't try to politicise the event and just wait for the evidence.
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    (Original post by The_Opinion)
    The way that the left / remain camps are using this incident to further their cause is disgusting.
    Yeh, I mean it is not as if the Leave Campaign used the Orlando shooting.

    Oh wait.....

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7079511.html

    Even though barely any Muslim immigration comes through EU channels. ANYWAY, who cares about the truth if you want Brexit
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