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    (Original post by soutioirsim)
    Ah ok. So black suit + dinner jacket is enough?
    Most people won't notice the difference in trousers, but if you're buying one you might as well get the other. At the end of the day it comes down to how much you give a **** about such stuff: you could buy dress shoes, socks, trousers, shirt, jacket, braces, waistcoat or cummerbund, cufflinks, shirtstuds and a hat, or you can just whack a black bow tie onto your regular black suit and white shirt and some people won't notice the difference.
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    (Original post by soutioirsim)
    Do we need a dinner jacket? Or while a standard black suit be ok for everything?
    (Original post by rev_pain)
    I think I'm just getting the one black suit for everything. Surely there'll be a decent number who don't have both...?
    (Original post by dbmag9)
    People might notice, depends on how fussed you are about details like that. You can buy dinner suits pretty cheaply at M&S though.
    Not sure why you'd wear a standard black suit unless you were going to a funeral. People will notice if you wear a normal suit for black tie — it's just a question of whether they'll be too polite to mention it. Honestly, if you're only going to get one suit, you'd be better off just getting black tie. You can always wear black tie as subfusc if you have to, and your gown will do a decent job of hiding the distinguishing features.
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    (Original post by BJack)
    Not sure why you'd wear a standard black suit unless you were going to a funeral. People will notice if you wear a normal suit for black tie — it's just a question of whether they'll be too polite to mention it. Honestly, if you're only going to get one suit, you'd be better off just getting black tie. You can always wear black tie as subfusc if you have to, and your gown will do a decent job of hiding the distinguishing features.
    Hmm personally I'd say step 1 is to get a good dark suit - sub fusc doesn't have to be black, it could be a dark grey. Black tie always looks curious as sub fusc, it's really not what you are supposed to wear. Step 2 is then to get black tie.

    I know some people at my college who didn't even need black tie until Trinity. It depends on what societies you get involved with / functions you attend. Whereas you'll need your sub fusc suit for matriculation.

    I think ultimately a dinner suit and a good suit are going to be invaluable investments for your 3/4 years at Oxford.

    But I'm a girl and it's a whole minefield out there for us! If only we could get away with at least 2 dresses... Actually I lie, I love it when I 'need' a new dress.
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    (Original post by Poppyxx)
    Hmm personally I'd say step 1 is to get a good dark suit - sub fusc doesn't have to be black, it could be a dark grey. Black tie always looks curious as sub fusc, it's really not what you are supposed to wear. Step 2 is then to get black tie.
    I agree that it's not a good idea to wear a dinner suit for sub fusc but it's less noticeable than wearing a lounge suit to a black tie event.
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    Just to clarify, then: a lounge suit is subfusc, but black tie events are, well, just that?
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    (Original post by Bax-man)
    Just to clarify, then: a lounge suit is subfusc, but black tie events are, well, just that?
    Yes. Sub fusc is just a 'normal' suit; black tie is a dinner jacket etc.
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    (Original post by BJack)
    Yes. Sub fusc is just a 'normal' suit; black tie is a dinner jacket etc.
    Lovely. Thanking you kindly.
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    Going shopping, shopping, shopping tomorrow! Folders, plates, dresses (necessity!) and probably some other stuff.
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    (Original post by Poppyxx)
    Hmm personally I'd say step 1 is to get a good dark suit - sub fusc doesn't have to be black, it could be a dark grey. Black tie always looks curious as sub fusc, it's really not what you are supposed to wear. Step 2 is then to get black tie.

    I know some people at my college who didn't even need black tie until Trinity. It depends on what societies you get involved with / functions you attend. Whereas you'll need your sub fusc suit for matriculation.

    I think ultimately a dinner suit and a good suit are going to be invaluable investments for your 3/4 years at Oxford.

    But I'm a girl and it's a whole minefield out there for us! If only we could get away with at least 2 dresses... Actually I lie, I love it when I 'need' a new dress.
    So two dresses is not enough? I just died a little inside!
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    (Original post by BeritV)
    So two dresses is not enough? I just died a little inside!
    I know! I had this dilemma a few weeks ago. :/ New Look has a 20% off sale at the moment so I'm going there today, hopefully to find some dresses. I currently own about 4 or 5, none of which are appropriate for formal occasions!
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    (Original post by barefootfiona)
    I know! I had this dilemma a few weeks ago. :/ New Look has a 20% off sale at the moment so I'm going there today, hopefully to find some dresses. I currently own about 4 or 5, none of which are appropriate for formal occasions!
    I literally own only 1 formal dress as I never ever wear dresses unless it's necessary. In other words I'm screwed Besides it would be really complicated for me to buy dresses here and then take it to the UK so I guess I'm gonna have to buy some once I get there, sigh.
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    (Original post by BeritV)
    I literally own only 1 formal dress as I never ever wear dresses unless it's necessary. In other words I'm screwed Besides it would be really complicated for me to buy dresses here and then take it to the UK so I guess I'm gonna have to buy some once I get there, sigh.
    It might be easier if you buy dresses online, on some websites you can get quite cheap ones that show all of the measurements, bust,waist, hips, length etc. then you can have them delivered to the UK
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    I wouldn't get 4 or 5 cocktail dresses all in one go. (Having said that, if you do go shopping and absolutely fall in love with that number of dresses, by all means get them anyway! ) I bought one dress before I went and didn't get another one until half way through Trinity term first year, and even then, it wasn't because I desperately needed a new dress - I got it because it was in a colour that I'd been looking for for about 3 years, plus it was on special offer at the time I bought it. I didn't actually wear this second dress until near the end of Michaelmas 2nd year. I'd worn each of these dresses five times each by the end of 2nd year, and it wasn't until this summer that I decided it might be a good idea to get a third dress suitable for black tie events, so I got one for £40 from New Look. (I might use my 21st as a good excuse to get another nice cocktail dress. ) Loads of girls wear the same dress multiple times, and some even swap with others who are the same size occasionally.

    For the Trinity ball, which was white tie, I used the same ball gown I wore for my Year 11 prom. The thing is, white tie events are so rare that I would suggest not worrying about getting a floor-length dress until you know you are definitely going to such an event. Some people wear floor-length dresses to black tie events, but the vast majority will be in knee-length dresses.
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    Yup, agree with Jeykayem, you really don't need to worry. I went with one smartish dress and accumulated more gradually, as and when I needed/could afford them - I got some amazing bargains in Oxford's charity shops and in sales - as well as some mutual borrowing with friends. I have started thinking that I need to start looking through my collection and taking some of them back to the charity shop as I really have too many now It's unlikely that you would have a black/white tie event sprung on you without time to get a dress to prepare for it
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    I've had a sort of dry run today of getting all my books into boxes. I have to use two, each about the size of two drawers. How am I going to get everything down?? I mean, that's just books, what about clothes, stationary, coffee, peppermint tea and...oh...I don't know...myself?? I have one volvo estate and two parents to get to Lincoln college on the 4th of October, and I'm at the moment not certain it's going to work!
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    (Original post by jenny18)
    I've had a sort of dry run today of getting all my books into boxes. I have to use two, each about the size of two drawers. How am I going to get everything down?? I mean, that's just books, what about clothes, stationary, coffee, peppermint tea and...oh...I don't know...myself?? I have one volvo estate and two parents to get to Lincoln college on the 4th of October, and I'm at the moment not certain it's going to work!
    I'm trying to pack lightly because Trinity has no storage space for UK students during the holidays...so everything I bring will have to be lugged back every 8 weeks
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    (Original post by jenny18)
    I've had a sort of dry run today of getting all my books into boxes. I have to use two, each about the size of two drawers. How am I going to get everything down?? I mean, that's just books, what about clothes, stationary, coffee, peppermint tea and...oh...I don't know...myself?? I have one volvo estate and two parents to get to Lincoln college on the 4th of October, and I'm at the moment not certain it's going to work!
    ahah you are pretty lucky!
    i can take just 23 kg of luggage + notebook
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    does anyone know idf were allowed kettles at LMH? I know it differs per college. And how much has everyone done from the reading list?!
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    (Original post by moritzplatz)
    ahah you are pretty lucky!
    i can take just 23 kg of luggage + notebook
    Well I can have 30 kilos but I don't know how I'm gonna do that
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    (Original post by ellie2)
    does anyone know idf were allowed kettles at LMH? I know it differs per college. And how much has everyone done from the reading list?!
    Corpus have given me five books, and I'm finished with two of them and have taken a few notes.

    I've got a week free from distractions before I leave though, so I'm going to really throw myself into the other three then.
    I'm rather enjoying learning some completely new stuff. I feel enriched by Oxford and I haven't even bought my bed linen yet
 
 
 
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