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The I-SOC (Islamic Society) XIII

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Original post by mariachi
yayyy !!!

yet another supporter of the world-renowned mariachi rule...
not more than two posts on the same subject for this thread

although it would seem that many other posters - for some arcane reason - still insist in roundly disregarding it

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I followed this rule:

"Don't be a disgrace for us"

Imam Jaffar as Sadiq (A.S)
Original post by mil88
I followed this rule:

"Don't be a disgrace for us"

Imam Jaffar as Sadiq (A.S)
well, if Imam Jaffar as Sadiq also follows the mariachi-rule, then I feel honoured

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Original post by mariachi
well, if Imam Jaffar as Sadiq also follows the mariachi-rule, then I feel honoured

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Considering his rule is the precursor of yours, it would seem the opposite.
Original post by mil88
Brother, I am speaking purely out of my experience, there are people with the surnames Hussain, who frankly don't have a clue about who he was. There are muslims who only find out of Imam Hussain very late in their lives. All I am saying, is that there are non muslims who know Imam Hussain when even some Muslims don't have a clue who he is, or even worse praise and salute his killers.

I am not speaking of the proportion of muslims and non muslims who know him, simply the fact of some muslims don't know his sacrifice, when some non muslims do.

Anyway, this discussion is seeing its end now.


There is a lot more I can get into about your comments brother.
But personal experience hardly counts as reliable source.
As I said all you have to do is go to a madrassa in the remotest corner of where muslims live and you will see what is known about the companions of the prophet.
Question
Why arent we allowed to listen to music in islam???
I mean it doesn't harm us
Original post by mil88
Considering his rule is the precursor of yours, it would seem the opposite.
zounds... you mean, he beat me to it ?
oh, well... win some, lose some

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Original post by AmirahxRashid
Question
Why arent we allowed to listen to music in islam???
I mean it doesn't harm us
if I remember correctly, there are some ahadith which equate music (especially singing accompanied by musical instruments) to "idle talks" sent by the Shaytan, which distract from the worship of God, or something to that effect. Quran Surah Luqmaan, 31:6, is also interpreted in this sense.

you will find more here https://islamqa.info/en/5000 or here https://islamqa.info/en/9290
apparently, the only musical instrument allowed would be the one-membraned drum (daff) and only at wedding ceremonies

an interesting fatwa on the admissibility of music in the context of aerobic exercises for losing weight https://islamqa.info/en/180705

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Original post by mariachi
if I remember correctly, there is a hadith which equates music to "idle thoughts" which distract from the worship of God, or something to that effect

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I listen to music but i still pray
Original post by Al-farhan
There is a lot more I can get into about your comments brother.
But personal experience hardly counts as reliable source.
As I said all you have to do is go to a madrassa in the remotest corner of where muslims live and you will see what is known about the companions of the prophet.


Of course, to say this is a modern and more prevalent trend is false. This is not a trend.

It may not be reliable to others, but it certainly is true according to myself.
Where is brother Ash these days?
Haven't seen him in a while.
Original post by mariachi
zounds... you mean, he beat me to it ?
oh, well... win some, lose some

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In this context, it certainly was (and still is) applicable.

Such is the fortune of fallible beings.
Why are there minor and major signs of judgement day?
Original post by AppleB
Why are there minor and major signs of judgement day?
why are there minor and major thirds ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_third https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_third

more seriously : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_eschatology#Major_and_minor_signs

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Please make dua, it's appalling that someone should be executed for this:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/11/asia-bibi-pakistan-blasphemy-law-supreme-court-death-sentence-salmaan-taseer

A mother as well.
Original post by IdeasForLife
Not true. There have no doubt been many times in history where people have been martyred for standing up to tyrants. Just look at Aleppo over the last few months alone. Men, women and children being massacred in the 100s because they oppose the tyrant of Syria and his allies (Khamenei, Putin etc.).
don't forget the USA
Original post by mariachi


haha :lol:

yh i've been reading the signs. I was wondering why they are split into 'minor' and 'major' signs
Original post by AppleB
haha :lol:

yh i've been reading the signs. I was wondering why they are split into 'minor' and 'major' signs
it seems that the ten major signs will occur in a time close to the hour, while the minor signs are much more remote in time

more information here https://islamqa.info/en/78329

on the major signs :

The major portents of the Hour are those which were mentioned by the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in the hadeeth of Hudhayfah ibn Aseed, and there are ten signs: The Dajjaal; the descent of ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (Jesus son of Mary); Ya’jooj and Ma’jooj (Gog and Magog); three landslides, one in the east, one in the west and one in the Arabian Peninsula; the smoke; the rising of the sun from its place of setting; the Beast; and the fire which will drive the people to their place of gathering. These signs will appear one after another, and when the first of these signs appear, the others will come soon after.


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Original post by mariachi
it seems that the ten major signs will occur in a time close to the hour, while the minor signs are much more remote in time

more information here https://islamqa.info/en/78329

on the major signs :

The major portents of the Hour are those which were mentioned by the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in the hadeeth of Hudhayfah ibn Aseed, and there are ten signs: The Dajjaal; the descent of ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (Jesus son of Mary); Ya’jooj and Ma’jooj (Gog and Magog); three landslides, one in the east, one in the west and one in the Arabian Peninsula; the smoke; the rising of the sun from its place of setting; the Beast; and the fire which will drive the people to their place of gathering. These signs will appear one after another, and when the first of these signs appear, the others will come soon after.


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thanks for the link!
it is very informative
It's interesting to read because some of the signs are happening right now.
Salams everyone! :smile:
Original post by ak143244
Salams everyone! :smile:


Lol wasalam.

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