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    Who resurrected this ? :holmes:
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    The Romans. Between the foundation of the city in c.753 BC, and the beginning of the migration era in the 4th century, the Roman state lost many battles but can only really be said to have lost three wars - the sack of the city by the Gauls in 387 BC, Crassus' invasion of Parthia, and the attempted conquest of Magna Germania. No other nation so far has been able to match that.

    The reason is simple - if at the beginning of a war they found themselves losing, they would adopt some of their opponent's tactics until they started winning. They borrowed the gladius from the Celtiberians, the gladius from the Gauls and the pilum from the Greeks. The Roman shield-wall formation was inspired by the Greek use of the phalanx, but was more mobile and hence able to consistently defeat the latter. The Roman navy didn't exist until the First Punic War, when they modeled their ships on Carthaginian ones but invented the corvus to assist in boarding.

    However, once they controlled the entire Mediterranean, the only tactically advanced opponent they had were the Persians, whose horse archers weren't much use in the forests of Europe. After that it was only a matter of time before the Germanic tribes caught up and began fighting back.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Band_of_Thebes
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    (Original post by chrisawhitmore)
    The US army has been deployed for 10 years, they have not fought anything resembling a battle since the early days of Iraq (and then a hopelessly mismatched one) The question is best army in history, so the fact that the six day war was a while back is not a problem. The US army has not won a relatively evenly matched war alone except for defeating the Spanish in 1898, and has only ever beaten that one European state without the aid of other European states.
    The US army has never had to fight a 'relatively even matched war'. No country has the economic, technological and manpower might that the United States does, so everything in comparison is a mismatch. Even Nazi Germany had no hope of ever beating America. The fact that a country has allies does not negate the effectiveness of an army. Hell the British had no less than fifteen coalition partners during the Napoleonic wars.
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    Going by the OP's criteria it is probably the prussian Army
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    (Original post by pol pot noodles)
    The US army has never had to fight a 'relatively even matched war'. No country has the economic, technological and manpower might that the United States does, so everything in comparison is a mismatch. Even Nazi Germany had no hope of ever beating America. The fact that a country has allies does not negate the effectiveness of an army. Hell the British had no less than fifteen coalition partners during the Napoleonic wars.
    You say that, yet they're still to win a major conflict or war.
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    (Original post by Derfel)
    You say that, yet they're still to win a major conflict or war.
    Spanish American War, two World Wars, Desert Storm, Cold War.
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    (Original post by Derfel)
    You say that, yet they're still to win a major conflict or war.
    I'd say the first and second gulf wars, (the wars not the insurgency afterwards) shows American might. Actual fighting is only really half the battle. Being able to get there and supply your army in a very hostile environment is very impressive and a clear sign of how powerful America is.
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    I think German army is the best in the world . They fought in the second world war better than other countries
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    (Original post by pol pot noodles)
    Spanish American War, two World Wars, Desert Storm, Cold War.
    If you're saying the Cold War, America didn't really enjoy any military success, as they lost the Vietnam War, and were forced into a stalemate during the Korean War.
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    (Original post by JOR2010)
    If you're saying the Cold War, America didn't really enjoy any military success, as they lost the Vietnam War, and were forced into a stalemate during the Korean War.
    They succeeded in saving South Korea from the Northern invasion, which was America's goal, and ultimately won the Cold War and the majority of proxy war's that it fought.
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    (Original post by pol pot noodles)
    They succeeded in saving South Korea from the Northern invasion, which was America's goal, and ultimately won the Cold War and the majority of proxy war's that it fought.
    They lost the Vietnam war terribly, they failed to invade Cuba, and they failed to stop the spread of communism to vietnam's neighbours. Not a great success.
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    (Original post by JOR2010)
    They lost the Vietnam war terribly, they failed to invade Cuba, and they failed to stop the spread of communism to vietnam's neighbours. Not a great success.
    I never said those specific events were successes, but they were not the only things that took place during the fourty odd years of the Cold War. In the balance of things, considering the Soviet Union collapsed and the United States emerged as the sole Superpower of the world, the Cold War was a resounding American victory.
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    America can't be the best army, they always shoot and blow up their allies and anything else that moves.

    Although their equipment isn't bad.
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    Roman!
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    The Army of Hussain, During the Battle of Karbala

    BY FAR.. Was the best
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    Personally, I think the Union (or for a good part of the American civil war the Confederacy) is certainly among the best of armies that have been and are. The Union had to virtually create an army and, having very little previous war experience (showed through a lack of experience in terms of officer numbers etc as few men available to the army had experience of combat), had to learn the art of war-fare in perhaps one of the most difficult theaters of war there are.
    Also to the above post about the USSR "losing" the cold war I also disagree with. It collapsed, yes, but only due to the internal pressures brought about by Gorbachev's political reforms which led to the downfall of the eastern bloc of communist countries in europe. If it were'nt for those, or other, reasons the USSR would have been able to have kept pace with America economically and militarily. So it was'nt really a case of America winning, more the USSR losing due to the reasons of its collapse (which in my view had not much connection with the actions of the US).
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    The best armies of their time:

    Classical era- Alexander the Great
    Spartans @ the battle of Thermopylae
    Medieval era- Saladin and the arab armies
    Christian crusader armies
    Mongol hordes- would defeat both
    Early modern Era- Spainish army
    British Army
    Modern Era- Red Army
    Army of the rising sun
    The allied army
    Finnish Army (vs Red Army)
    Today- USA could kick the worlds ass, if the war was fought without nukes

    Edit: Why the neg rating? If you do at least argue why you disagree rather than click it, then I might understand- otherwise you're a tit!!
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    (Original post by Margaret Thatcher)
    Regardless of technology, which do you think was the best army in history - in terms of training, discipline, strategy, synchronisation, etc.
    In history?

    well based purely on military victories youd have to say...

    The Romans (roman empire)

    and the British- because of things like the British empire, WW1, WW2, SAS, British on average receive most training.

    Ofcourse the current US army is immensely powerful in terms of numbers and technology, but not the best trained and dont have many victories to their name and the USA is stiall a fairly young country.

    other notable mentions are probably, Spartans (bred to be warriors), the saxons (fought big odds), etc.
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    (Original post by qasman)
    Haha.
 
 
 
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