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Which party do you plan to vote for in the General Election? Jan-Feb opinion poll Watch

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    Conservative
    108
    22.74%
    Labour
    112
    23.58%
    Liberal Democrats
    28
    5.89%
    UKIP
    50
    10.53%
    SNP
    15
    3.16%
    Sinn Féin
    5
    1.05%
    Green Party
    117
    24.63%
    Plaid Cymru
    2
    0.42%
    SDLP
    3
    0.63%
    DUP
    4
    0.84%
    Independent
    3
    0.63%
    Alliance
    1
    0.21%
    Respect
    2
    0.42%
    Other (please state in a post)
    4
    0.84%
    Not voting
    21
    4.42%

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    (Original post by FoxtrotAlphaOne)
    1) After the 2010 election the economy was picking up anyways from the crash in 2008. If any other party came in power, the economy would have still grown. Just because conservatives were in power, they took all the glory.

    2) If you looked in Labour's 2010 manifesto, they were going to introduce the benefit cap too, again conservative stole the glory.

    3) Record number of people are not in work. Let me give u an example, when someone is taken off benefits and put on a 'work placement programme' they are effectively put under education and not unemployment. This course could last a few months. When it's finished people are back on to benefits. This is just an illusion to say " oh, record number of people are back in work" when effectively they're not.

    4) Wages go up every year with inflation. Wages were going up since Labour days. So it's not a big change. If wages were up to living wage or a high living wage, then I would have understood, but they're not, they're going up in pennies.

    5) Taxes have not 'officially' gone down. Only the wealthiest earners have there tax cut. You have to be earning over a specific amount which is £40,000-£50,000. It's these people who are getting a tax cut not the lower earners.

    6) The deficit may have gone down but this is due to massive cuts to our vital emergency services, hospitals, police, ambulance and nurses. If you look at the records, borrowing is still high and infact has been the same since 2010. Why borrow more and cut services?

    What ever party comes in, it will be the same. However some parties may have a different approach on policies.


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    1. True. I'd go further. Austerity in the race of domestic and global recession, with no room to cut interest rates further, actively damaged the economy. It was always going to recover, but their fiscal policy made sure it took a very long time.

    2. Not true. Labour have opposed the benefits cap and attacked the Tories over it.

    3. You've misunderstood the difference between employment and unemployment, which are not 2 sides of the same coin (completely). What you're describing would artificially make the UNEMPLOYMENT figures seem lower, although even then your point is insignificant because the numbers involved are small in comparison to other factors. EMPLOYMENT is at a record high, because so many more jobs have been created, somewhat unexpectedly. These 'work placement' programmes do not affect these numbers, but even if they did, your point is weak because the numbers are insignificantly small. More private sector jobs have been created than in around 25 years. That's not due to educational, work placement programme fudging the numbers!!

    4. True, wages have not really risen. This is due to stagnant productivity, which has puzzled economists. See the Bank of England's 'productivity puzzle' paper on this.

    5. Flat out wrong. The increased personal allowance has taken many of the lowest paid out of tax altogether. For somebody earning £9,000 a year, their taxes have effectively been abolished. Yes, tax rates have gone down at the top too (top band from 50p to 45p), but that's a thoroughly good thing too as estimates have shown the 50p band just didn't raise any significant revenue at all.

    6. The deficit, borrowing each year, HAS come down. Your are simply factually incorrect to argue otherwise. It is still high, but has come down. Vital public services cuts? Not quite. Many surveys have shown people have not really noticed a decline in quality of services. Crime has gone down too. Moreover, when you consider that government spending, in 2010, accounted for almost HALF, yes HALF of total GDP, it is hard to argue that this is all going on 'essential' public services. The size of the state has become huge, and all government spending is certainly not vital. That is foolish.
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    The Green Party's manifesto is full of inconsistencies, although their policies sound appealing in theory they are impractical in our current society
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    We're approaching the end of February, which means the end of the Jan-Feb poll!

    As it stands, the Green Party is in the lead with 25.5% of the votes, with the Tories and Labour both trailing slightly behind with 22.82% of the votes each. I wonder if much will change in the next week - and whether the March-April poll will look very different at all!

    Keep voting anyhow, guys!
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    (Original post by Reluire)
    We're approaching the end of February, which means the end of the Jan-Feb poll!

    As it stands, the Green Party is in the lead with 25.5% of the votes, with the Tories and Labour both trailing slightly behind with 22.82% of the votes each. I wonder if much will change in the next week - and whether the March-April poll will look very different at all!

    Keep voting anyhow, guys!
    Where did you get that smilie from:zomg:
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Where did you get that smilie from:zomg:
    Lol, not TSR. When in doubt, search Google Images for the smiley of your desire.
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    (Original post by Reluire)
    Lol, not TSR. When in doubt, search Google Images for the smiley of your desire.
    :lolwut: people have loads of time then.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    'That wants to stay in the eu' :erm:that a bad thing?the EU is amazing and we need it.

    And UKIP is more a joke. The greens have higher membership then the libs and UKIP and second most popular in the uk for students thank you:hmpf:

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    A very bad thing.
    It reduces our trade with other countries, thus costing more money.
    We can't even trade with any countries outside the EU without their permission, which is beyond a joke.
    They have control over a lot of our laws, including our immigration policy.
    We spend £bns per year to stay in the EU, for what? It is ruining this country, and Cameron, nor any other party but UKIP will leave.
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    (Original post by Jared44)
    A very bad thing.
    It reduces our trade with other countries, thus costing more money.
    We can't even trade with any countries outside the EU without their permission, which is beyond a joke.
    They have control over a lot of our laws, including our immigration policy.
    We spend £bns per year to stay in the EU, for what? It is ruining this country, and Cameron, nor any other party but UKIP will leave.
    No it doesn't, it gives us more trading power then we'd have alone.
    they make up 35% of primary legislation I belive! and we elect people there to make tge rules...
    and actually we get more out of the EU then we put in.
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    (Original post by Aph)
    No it doesn't, it gives us more trading power then we'd have alone.
    they make up 35% of primary legislation I belive! and we elect people there to make tge rules...
    and actually we get more out of the EU then we put in.
    Where have you got that idea from?
    We have far less trading power, and it's slowing our economy because they have to justify it...
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    (Original post by Jared44)
    Where have you got that idea from?
    We have far less trading power, and it's slowing our economy because they have to justify it...
    Why on earth would we have more power out of the EU? Do you know how many companies that have offices here just because of the free market?
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Why on earth would we have more power out of the EU? Do you know how many companies that have offices here just because of the free market?
    Do you realise how restricting and controlling the EU is? If you read the paper or any of the kind you can see just how bad the EU is.
    I have an article saved from The Times I got the other day, I'll even take a picture tomorrow if you'd like.
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    (Original post by Jared44)
    Do you realise how restricting and controlling the EU is? If you read the paper or any of the kind you can see just how bad the EU is.
    I have an article saved from The Times I got the other day, I'll even take a picture tomorrow if you'd like.
    Do you know how much of a bigger fish the EU is as a trade partner compared to tge UK alone?
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    (Original post by Aph)
    Do you know how much of a bigger fish the EU is as a trade partner compared to tge UK alone?
    Yes I do know, but that doesn't mean we can't trade with anyone...
    The EU has stopped our trading with various countries that we traded with for hundreds of years, and in fact, that has stopped us from exporting a lot of goods to other countries. Do you realise the ratio our import to export? We export hardly anything, and that's why our industries are virtually gone, that's why our economy is so much worse off now.
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    (Original post by Jared44)
    Yes I do know, but that doesn't mean we can't trade with anyone...
    The EU has stopped our trading with various countries that we traded with for hundreds of years, and in fact, that has stopped us from exporting a lot of goods to other countries. Do you realise the ratio our import to export? We export hardly anything, and that's why our industries are virtually gone, that's why our economy is so much worse off now.
    No... That's to do with government policy focusing on tertianary and quarternary industries... Loads of EU countries are net exporters.
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    Okay, I made a mistake about imports and exports.
    A country earns more for the local population if it is importing goods. The problem is that because of the EU, most of the consumers (us) are very restricted to where we can buy products. For example, in the US they are not allowed to purchase any lamb from the UK. The EU benefits those who have a lot of money and those who have businesses within the EU, such as politicians.
    The EU does not benefit the working man, the consumer, the general population. If we left, we would have to pay for trade, which is a good thing because it stops businesses going bankrupt by putting a tariff on imports. This essentially stops us buying the product if it falls below a certain charge, thus stopping the company from losing money. The free trade is destroying all of that.
    Why would you want free trade with expensive products from specific countries when you can purchase cheaper items any country? Not only does it benefit you, but you're helping businesses along the way. It's a win-win situation...
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    (Original post by Jared44)
    Okay, I made a mistake about imports and exports.
    A country earns more for the local population if it is importing goods. The problem is that because of the EU, most of the consumers (us) are very restricted to where we can buy products. For example, in the US they are not allowed to purchase any lamb from the UK. The EU benefits those who have a lot of money and those who have businesses within the EU, such as politicians.
    The EU does not benefit the working man, the consumer, the general population. If we left, we would have to pay for trade, which is a good thing because it stops businesses going bankrupt by putting a tariff on imports. This essentially stops us buying the product if it falls below a certain charge, thus stopping the company from losing money. The free trade is destroying all of that.
    Why would you want free trade with expensive products from specific countries when you can purchase cheaper items any country? Not only does it benefit you, but you're helping businesses along the way. It's a win-win situation...
    Your argument is contrary to the norm.

    Protectionism (imposing tariffs) typically raises prices because there's a whole world of countries with potentially more efficient business or lower production costs. The argument for protectionism is more based around the fact that your more likely to support your national economy than buy a cheap import from elsewhere.
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    (Original post by Jared44)
    Yes I do know, but that doesn't mean we can't trade with anyone...
    The EU has stopped our trading with various countries that we traded with for hundreds of years, and in fact, that has stopped us from exporting a lot of goods to other countries. Do you realise the ratio our import to export? We export hardly anything, and that's why our industries are virtually gone, that's why our economy is so much worse off now.
    The EU has many exporters such as Germany (second largest in the world), Ireland, Netherlands and Sweden. The reason the UK has little industry in comparison is because all our industries were state owned and inferior to foreign competition. It's nothing to do with the EU. If we take the BRIC's for example, they make up 12% of German trade but only 5% of UK trade. In addition, our two largest trading partners are actually Germany and the US who make up ~25% of exports and growing (especially once the US-EU trade treaty is signed).

    Of course we on the right want more trade but some seem to think that we'll become Germany once we've left the EU and got free trade treaties when the reality is that if we we're going to become the next great exporter, we'd have much higher exports than we do already.
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    Going on local issues for the election. Will be putting my lot in with Labour because they're the only party who has any solid plan for local issues (with the Cons saying we should drain all public funding away from the centre into the posh commuter villages, how charming, and the others have no plans whatsoever). Tempted to vote the Greens in the Gen. but would rather side with the reds in order to keep the Labour vote solid. Being a marginal seat I don't want my constituency to fall into the hands of a Tory career politician with not much experience of the real world, contrasted to the excellent local MP who has served the area faithfully for decades.
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    The Greens are going to win it, Lord have mercy.
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    Is anybody voting the Whigs?
 
 
 
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